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		<title>By: hf</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/06/conservative-derangement-syndrome-the-greatest-generation-aint-so-great/#comment-61231</link>
		<dc:creator>hf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nazis did of course attack civilians. I don&#039;t know that Hiroshima counted as a military target, if it comes to that. Their faith in &quot;civilization&quot; seems touching but sadly misplaced.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nazis did of course attack civilians. I don&#8217;t know that Hiroshima counted as a military target, if it comes to that. Their faith in &#8220;civilization&#8221; seems touching but sadly misplaced.</p>
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		<title>By: Church Secretary</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/06/conservative-derangement-syndrome-the-greatest-generation-aint-so-great/#comment-61230</link>
		<dc:creator>Church Secretary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another example of some of the cowardly scum who are calling themselves &#039;conservative&#039; these days.  I don&#039;t go in for that &quot;greatest generation&quot; crap (if they were really great, they&#039;d have been smart enough to stop their wealthy fellow citizens and corporations from bankrolling the Nazis and the German war machine, but I digress).  However, it can safely be said that conservatives and liberals alike generally did what needed to be done in WWII when they finally paid attention.

The best these pissant, wingnut bed-wetters can do is make lame excuses and rationalizations.  They&#039;re getting so ludicrous that even the usual wingnuts here at OW&#039;s place are strangely quiet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another example of some of the cowardly scum who are calling themselves &#8216;conservative&#8217; these days.  I don&#8217;t go in for that &#8220;greatest generation&#8221; crap (if they were really great, they&#8217;d have been smart enough to stop their wealthy fellow citizens and corporations from bankrolling the Nazis and the German war machine, but I digress).  However, it can safely be said that conservatives and liberals alike generally did what needed to be done in WWII when they finally paid attention.</p>
<p>The best these pissant, wingnut bed-wetters can do is make lame excuses and rationalizations.  They&#8217;re getting so ludicrous that even the usual wingnuts here at OW&#8217;s place are strangely quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: OxyCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>OxyCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey kids! Since we&#039;re talking about Nazis, who do these guys remind you of?
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CNN: Neo-Nazi attacks on the rise in former East Germany
10/05/2007 @ 11:28 am
Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane


There has been an upsurge in attacks on foreigners this year by skinheads and neo-Nazis in what was formerly East Germany. Although the chief targets are Africans and Indians, even visitors from other European nations are at risk.

According to the Israeli paper Haaretz, &quot;Some 500 racist attacks were registered in Germany over the past year, a 33 percent increase from the previous year. ... At the same time, radical right-wing and neo-Nazi parties in east Germany have increased their power and entered local parliaments, while opinion polls are reflecting growing xenophobia.&quot;

CNN spoke to a student from Cameroon who said he hears racial slurs every day. In May, he was beaten by a group of several men, led, he says, by an off-duty police officer. CNN also showed a cellphone video from this August of fifty East Germans chasing and beating eight Indians.

A Jewish group has warned that certain parts of East Germany are so bad they may have to be declared &quot;no-go&quot; areas for Jews and foreigners. Political scientist Hajo Funke agreed, telling CNN, &quot;People of different skin are in danger to go to special festivals in small towns or to special pubs in special hours in evening and night. It&#039;s deadly dangerous to go there, and they shouldn&#039;t.&quot;

CNN noted that &quot;some political scientists speak of a mainstreaming of radical right-wing culture, fueled by hatred of foreigners,&quot; which the German government has blamed on high unemployment in former East Germany.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey kids! Since we&#8217;re talking about Nazis, who do these guys remind you of?<br />
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<p>CNN: Neo-Nazi attacks on the rise in former East Germany<br />
10/05/2007 @ 11:28 am<br />
Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane</p>
<p>There has been an upsurge in attacks on foreigners this year by skinheads and neo-Nazis in what was formerly East Germany. Although the chief targets are Africans and Indians, even visitors from other European nations are at risk.</p>
<p>According to the Israeli paper Haaretz, &#8220;Some 500 racist attacks were registered in Germany over the past year, a 33 percent increase from the previous year. &#8230; At the same time, radical right-wing and neo-Nazi parties in east Germany have increased their power and entered local parliaments, while opinion polls are reflecting growing xenophobia.&#8221;</p>
<p>CNN spoke to a student from Cameroon who said he hears racial slurs every day. In May, he was beaten by a group of several men, led, he says, by an off-duty police officer. CNN also showed a cellphone video from this August of fifty East Germans chasing and beating eight Indians.</p>
<p>A Jewish group has warned that certain parts of East Germany are so bad they may have to be declared &#8220;no-go&#8221; areas for Jews and foreigners. Political scientist Hajo Funke agreed, telling CNN, &#8220;People of different skin are in danger to go to special festivals in small towns or to special pubs in special hours in evening and night. It&#8217;s deadly dangerous to go there, and they shouldn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>CNN noted that &#8220;some political scientists speak of a mainstreaming of radical right-wing culture, fueled by hatred of foreigners,&#8221; which the German government has blamed on high unemployment in former East Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: megamoze</title>
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		<dc:creator>megamoze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no logic here or any semblance of a rational argument.  The enemy today are savages and so torture is more effective?

Hmm, if only there were some way to test this hypothesis, to see if torture is any more effective on Muslim detainees.  Why, I do believe that we HAVE tortured them and discovered that torture DOESN&#039;T WORK.

And even if it were, it still wouldn&#039;t justify a vile, despicable practice that we, as civilized people, were supposed to have abandoned at the founding of our nation.

The purpose of torture is always torture.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no logic here or any semblance of a rational argument.  The enemy today are savages and so torture is more effective?</p>
<p>Hmm, if only there were some way to test this hypothesis, to see if torture is any more effective on Muslim detainees.  Why, I do believe that we HAVE tortured them and discovered that torture DOESN&#8217;T WORK.</p>
<p>And even if it were, it still wouldn&#8217;t justify a vile, despicable practice that we, as civilized people, were supposed to have abandoned at the founding of our nation.</p>
<p>The purpose of torture is always torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that people like Cap&#039;N crunch can make the claims above about the threat we face and still refuse to sign up to fight.  Maybe he should ask those WWII generation fighters what they called someone like that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that people like Cap&#8217;N crunch can make the claims above about the threat we face and still refuse to sign up to fight.  Maybe he should ask those WWII generation fighters what they called someone like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond LeGrande</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/10/06/conservative-derangement-syndrome-the-greatest-generation-aint-so-great/#comment-61226</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond LeGrande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see, these guys are even more vile than Nazis. Bin Laden? Worse than Hitler. Oh, wait, forget about him. I meant Ahmadinejad, or whatever his name is.

More seriously, this stuff isn&#039;t new. In WWI, a civilized nation became Jerry, the Prussian Hun, reveling in savagery. Two decades later, we had the Slant-Eyed Japs, who were shifty and double-crossing and horrendously brutal. Before actually seeing the inside of the Navy, my brother was often quoting from a book that explained that the Vietnamese were especially brutal because they did not use the Western way of war.

Hmmm ... invade a nation, and complain when the natives don&#039;t fight back according to your standards. Vietnam would be the last time that happened, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, these guys are even more vile than Nazis. Bin Laden? Worse than Hitler. Oh, wait, forget about him. I meant Ahmadinejad, or whatever his name is.</p>
<p>More seriously, this stuff isn&#8217;t new. In WWI, a civilized nation became Jerry, the Prussian Hun, reveling in savagery. Two decades later, we had the Slant-Eyed Japs, who were shifty and double-crossing and horrendously brutal. Before actually seeing the inside of the Navy, my brother was often quoting from a book that explained that the Vietnamese were especially brutal because they did not use the Western way of war.</p>
<p>Hmmm &#8230; invade a nation, and complain when the natives don&#8217;t fight back according to your standards. Vietnam would be the last time that happened, right?</p>
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		<title>By: pawtrax</title>
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		<dc:creator>pawtrax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to hear one of these idiots ever present a believable scenario in which Bin Laden and al-Qaeda force American to its knees and join some Islamic empire or something. But this is the ultimate scenario that all these morons keep pushing as the motivating factor in their war mongering: If it weren&#039;t for George Bush and the war in Iraq we&#039;d all be forced to pray to Mecca.

How in the hell could that ever happen? They pump up the terrorist threat as if it was the greatest threat America has ever faced, but these terrorists have absolutely no conceivable way of ever achieving any of their goals of world domination. It doesn&#039;t matter if they&#039;re willing to die for their cause or whatever, it ain&#039;t ever going to happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to hear one of these idiots ever present a believable scenario in which Bin Laden and al-Qaeda force American to its knees and join some Islamic empire or something. But this is the ultimate scenario that all these morons keep pushing as the motivating factor in their war mongering: If it weren&#8217;t for George Bush and the war in Iraq we&#8217;d all be forced to pray to Mecca.</p>
<p>How in the hell could that ever happen? They pump up the terrorist threat as if it was the greatest threat America has ever faced, but these terrorists have absolutely no conceivable way of ever achieving any of their goals of world domination. It doesn&#8217;t matter if they&#8217;re willing to die for their cause or whatever, it ain&#8217;t ever going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: me2i81</title>
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		<dc:creator>me2i81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see, &quot;civilized&quot; means &quot;white&quot; for these guys. Not that they wouldn&#039;t get their butts kicked in a game of chess with a typical middle-class Iraqi teenager...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see, &#8220;civilized&#8221; means &#8220;white&#8221; for these guys. Not that they wouldn&#8217;t get their butts kicked in a game of chess with a typical middle-class Iraqi teenager&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, also, the Nazis were white and from a Judeo-Christian background, and had cool machines and interesting suits and medals and stuff right wingers can collect.

Muslims are presumably dark and swarthy people from a non Judeo-Christian background, and they use primitive armaments in terrorism with no interesting collectibles (of the late 20th / 21st century variety, we&#039;re not talking classic daggers or whatnot).

Plus the Republicans liked the fascists early on until it was wartime.  That&#039;s how we know they&#039;re not serious when they call Al Qa&#039;ida gangsters &quot;Islamo-fascists&quot;, because if they really were &quot;fascist&quot; Republicans would be finding all sorts of things to like about them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, also, the Nazis were white and from a Judeo-Christian background, and had cool machines and interesting suits and medals and stuff right wingers can collect.</p>
<p>Muslims are presumably dark and swarthy people from a non Judeo-Christian background, and they use primitive armaments in terrorism with no interesting collectibles (of the late 20th / 21st century variety, we&#8217;re not talking classic daggers or whatnot).</p>
<p>Plus the Republicans liked the fascists early on until it was wartime.  That&#8217;s how we know they&#8217;re not serious when they call Al Qa&#8217;ida gangsters &#8220;Islamo-fascists&#8221;, because if they really were &#8220;fascist&#8221; Republicans would be finding all sorts of things to like about them.</p>
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