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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61801</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give O&#039;Reilly this: the ice tea comment &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; taken out of context.

Check the transcript on Media Matters. O&#039;Reilly was telling Juan Williams that there is a segment of white society that thinks hip-hop is representative of the way black people think and behave. It was in that context that he pointed out that no one in Sylvia&#039;s was using the type of profanity white people &lt;em&gt;imagine&lt;/em&gt; is commonplace.

I think this comment would have been entirely unnoteworthy if O&#039;Reilly hadn&#039;t made the incredibly &lt;em&gt;stupid&lt;/em&gt; remark about Sylvia&#039;s being &quot;just like any other restaurant.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give O&#8217;Reilly this: the ice tea comment <em>was</em> taken out of context.</p>
<p>Check the transcript on Media Matters. O&#8217;Reilly was telling Juan Williams that there is a segment of white society that thinks hip-hop is representative of the way black people think and behave. It was in that context that he pointed out that no one in Sylvia&#8217;s was using the type of profanity white people <em>imagine</em> is commonplace.</p>
<p>I think this comment would have been entirely unnoteworthy if O&#8217;Reilly hadn&#8217;t made the incredibly <em>stupid</em> remark about Sylvia&#8217;s being &#8220;just like any other restaurant.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: will fudger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61800</link>
		<dc:creator>will fudger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there&#039;s a few minutes I&#039;ll never get back.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there&#8217;s a few minutes I&#8217;ll never get back.</p>
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		<title>By: megamoze</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61799</link>
		<dc:creator>megamoze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ferris is an idiot. Who&#039;d have thunk it?&quot;

Luckily he pops in now and again to remind us of that fact.

Of course, this is the same party that brought us &quot;Al Gore claims he invented the internet&quot; and &quot;Hillary fakes a southern accent to appeal to black voters.&quot;  Like Bill Clinton said, the outrage is always fake, always disingenuous, always hypocritical with these clowns.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ferris is an idiot. Who&#8217;d have thunk it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Luckily he pops in now and again to remind us of that fact.</p>
<p>Of course, this is the same party that brought us &#8220;Al Gore claims he invented the internet&#8221; and &#8220;Hillary fakes a southern accent to appeal to black voters.&#8221;  Like Bill Clinton said, the outrage is always fake, always disingenuous, always hypocritical with these clowns.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61798</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, let&#039;s try this again.

What he&#039;s doing is he&#039;s combining sections of Oliver&#039;s post to make it say something completely different. What Ferris doesn&#039;t realize is that:

1. That&#039;s not what &quot;taking out of context&quot; means.

2. When quoting someone in that manner, one uses ellipses. So it SHOULD read:

&quot;I tend to...just want to cash the big checks...but...Snyder&#039;s...much more honest.&quot;

In other words, Ferris is an idiot. Who&#039;d&#039;ve thunk it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, let&#8217;s try this again.</p>
<p>What he&#8217;s doing is he&#8217;s combining sections of Oliver&#8217;s post to make it say something completely different. What Ferris doesn&#8217;t realize is that:</p>
<p>1. That&#8217;s not what &#8220;taking out of context&#8221; means.</p>
<p>2. When quoting someone in that manner, one uses ellipses. So it SHOULD read:</p>
<p>&#8220;I tend to&#8230;just want to cash the big checks&#8230;but&#8230;Snyder&#8217;s&#8230;much more honest.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, Ferris is an idiot. Who&#8217;d've thunk it?</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61797</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s combining parts of the post to make a completely different quote. What Jay DOESN&#039;T realize is that when quote someone in that manner, one uses ellipses(es?). So it should look like:

&quot;I tend to...just want to cash the big checks...but...Snyder&#039;s...much more honest.&quot;

Also, that&#039;s not what &quot;taken out of context&quot; means.

In other words, Ferris is an idiot. Who&#039;d have thunk it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s combining parts of the post to make a completely different quote. What Jay DOESN&#8217;T realize is that when quote someone in that manner, one uses ellipses(es?). So it should look like:</p>
<p>&#8220;I tend to&#8230;just want to cash the big checks&#8230;but&#8230;Snyder&#8217;s&#8230;much more honest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, that&#8217;s not what &#8220;taken out of context&#8221; means.</p>
<p>In other words, Ferris is an idiot. Who&#8217;d have thunk it?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61796</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wha?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wha?</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61795</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris: &quot;Did you or did you not say:&quot;

Not in that link he didn&#039;t. Or were you trying to make a point?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris: &#8220;Did you or did you not say:&#8221;</p>
<p>Not in that link he didn&#8217;t. Or were you trying to make a point?</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61794</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you or did you not &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2007/09/25/softballing-the-danny/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;say&lt;/a&gt;:
&quot;I tend to just want to cash the big checks but Snyder&#039;s much more honest.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you or did you not <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2007/09/25/softballing-the-danny/" rel="nofollow">say</a>:<br />
&#8220;I tend to just want to cash the big checks but Snyder&#8217;s much more honest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61793</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what&#039;s going on, but the comments section during this recent revamp has been terrible--slow to process, slow to refresh, and often forgetting login info or otherwise.

I suspect it&#039;s at least part of the reason the threads have been so lackluster since the redesign.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s going on, but the comments section during this recent revamp has been terrible&#8211;slow to process, slow to refresh, and often forgetting login info or otherwise.</p>
<p>I suspect it&#8217;s at least part of the reason the threads have been so lackluster since the redesign.</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61792</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a lengthy post on this thread and it disappeared.  Is this comment signin thing really working right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a lengthy post on this thread and it disappeared.  Is this comment signin thing really working right?</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/09/26/heh-3/#comment-61791</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I hope someone has something like the following discussion with O&#039;Reilly&lt;/i&gt;:

&lt;b&gt;Imaginary Guest&lt;/b&gt;: So, Mr. O&#039;Reilly, you claim your words were &quot;taken out of context&quot;?

&lt;b&gt;Bill O&#039;Reilly&lt;/b&gt;: Exactly!  Media Matters is a smear site!

&lt;b&gt;IG&lt;/b&gt;: And, to understand fully your intentions it would be necessary to listen to complete transcripts of the Factor, hours or possibly days worth of material?

&lt;b&gt;BOR&lt;/b&gt;: Right!

&lt;b&gt;IG&lt;/b&gt;:  One can only understand the intent and meaning of commentary by lengthy detailed analysis of a large sample of primary source material?

&lt;b&gt;BOR&lt;/b&gt;:  It&#039;s called reporting!

&lt;b&gt;IG&lt;/b&gt;:  I see.  So let me posit a question Mr. O&#039;Reilly.  How many complete and entire front-page articles written by the primary contributors have you PERSONALLY read from the Daily Kos?

&lt;b&gt;BOR&lt;/b&gt;: Don&#039;t change the subject!

&lt;b&gt;IG&lt;/b&gt;:  You have criticized Daily Kos repeatedly by the use of only about half-dozen comments written by anonymous commenters, and these were usually on user diaries and not on the primary front page articles written by the main site contributors authorized to produce front page content.  You have *never* quoted entire front page article in its entirety either on your radio or TV show.  By your own standard, is this ethical?

&lt;b&gt;BOR&lt;/b&gt;:  Cut his mic!  cut his mic!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hope someone has something like the following discussion with O&#8217;Reilly</i>:</p>
<p><b>Imaginary Guest</b>: So, Mr. O&#8217;Reilly, you claim your words were &#8220;taken out of context&#8221;?</p>
<p><b>Bill O&#8217;Reilly</b>: Exactly!  Media Matters is a smear site!</p>
<p><b>IG</b>: And, to understand fully your intentions it would be necessary to listen to complete transcripts of the Factor, hours or possibly days worth of material?</p>
<p><b>BOR</b>: Right!</p>
<p><b>IG</b>:  One can only understand the intent and meaning of commentary by lengthy detailed analysis of a large sample of primary source material?</p>
<p><b>BOR</b>:  It&#8217;s called reporting!</p>
<p><b>IG</b>:  I see.  So let me posit a question Mr. O&#8217;Reilly.  How many complete and entire front-page articles written by the primary contributors have you PERSONALLY read from the Daily Kos?</p>
<p><b>BOR</b>: Don&#8217;t change the subject!</p>
<p><b>IG</b>:  You have criticized Daily Kos repeatedly by the use of only about half-dozen comments written by anonymous commenters, and these were usually on user diaries and not on the primary front page articles written by the main site contributors authorized to produce front page content.  You have *never* quoted entire front page article in its entirety either on your radio or TV show.  By your own standard, is this ethical?</p>
<p><b>BOR</b>:  Cut his mic!  cut his mic!</p>
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