How do we know that the Germans didn’t just make all this up in order to look tough?

Certainly this deserves at least some measure of the usual moonbat conspiracy ranting, doesn’t it?

Know what I find interesting about this? If law enforcement and intelligence gathering had been used properly and appropriately, those attacks probably could have been stopped.

Many of us are fine with using wiretaps on suspects. The problem is that Bush wants a program where he never has to account for why a wiretap was requested, never has to explain what led them to that suspect in the first place, and never has to be held accountable if those reasons were complete and utter bullshit.

It’s a system that was set up to hold such powers in check, lest they be misused by, say, a power-hungry executive who doesn’t think he’s beholden to a system of checks and balances (or his power-hungry lieutenant who insists he doesn’t even exist within that framework).

You would have made a great Stasi agent, Farris. Really. Bravo.

Using intelligence and law enforcement in the prevention of terrorist attacks is fine.

A threat of jail time in response to a terrorist attack is not fine.”

Jay, you are fucking retarded.

How many Democrats opposed the war in Afghanistan?

How many Republicans have said you have to fight them in Iraq to prevent them from coming here?

Your talking points are worthless here, because we are not as stupid as the average Republican is.

I’m fine with using both resources–military and law enforcement–if both are being used in strategically sound ways. We have only rarely managed to do that in the past six years, but I’d tend to agree with Oliver that law enforcement has been better managed than military.

Using intelligence and law enforcement in the prevention of terrorist attacks is fine.

A threat of jail time in response to a terrorist attack is not fine.

Comprende?

Some are skeptical that the war on terror is really a war at all. My opponent said, and I quote, “The war on terror is less of a military operation, and far more of an intelligence-gathering law enforcement operation.” I disagree—strongly disagree. … After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. With those attacks, the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States of America, and war is what they got.
—President Bush, March 25, 2004