Nugent freakin’ rocks, man. [makes devil sign with a raised hand]

Now what about his “Hillary should ride one of these into the sunset” rant?

“Sure it is. It’s a period of time.”

It takes more to be an era than to be a period of time.

“2.) He still wasn’t the best of that time frame.”

“I never said he was the best. You need to read more closely. I said he was one of the top rock guitarists of his era.”

And he’s not. He plays arena rock, which is not a high skill genre of music. In fact, it is one of the lowest.

Sure it is. It’s a period of time.

2.) He still wasn’t the best of that time frame.

I never said he was the best. You need to read more closely. I said he was one of the top rock guitarists of his era.

My entire point here was to refute Jadegold’s incorrect assertion that Nugent is a “below average guitarist”, comparing him to hacks like CC Deville.

And both of those men are talented.

I agree. I just don’t think album sales are the be all end all of what constitutes good musicianship. Britney Spears sold millions of records and Jadegold can probably sing better than her. Yet, I doubt you’d find the average person has heard of Joe Bonamassa, but he’s one of the best guitarists around today.

Same thing with O.J. Simpson. Great football player. Doesn’t excuse what he did, though. (ok, he still got away anyway, and Nugent unfortunately probably will too).

Two points:

1.) 1975-1980 is hardly an era.

2.) He still wasn’t the best of that time frame.

“And hits don’t necessarily tell the whole story. If you look at Stevie Ray Vaughan for instance, he didn’t have any hits and his solo records weren’t certified platinum until after his death in 1989. Eric Johnson’s ‘Ah Via Musicom’ wasn’t certified platinum until thirteen years after it was released.”

And both of those men are talented. (I own the formers box set and the latter album.)

Ted Nugent plays area rock, which is certainly less talent driven than most genres.

Once again, I have forgotten more about music than you’ll ever know. Your attempt to prove otherwise is lame even with your wisecracks about Bon Jovi.

When you ask famous musicians who the best guitarist they ever heard was–usually, they’ll give the name of some obscure guitarist hardly anyone has heard of or some session guitarist.

No shit. But what does this have to do with what I asked you?

I ask again: Of all these famous guitarists you supposedly know, NAME ONE that has said they didn’t think Nugent was worth squat.

Name one or shut the fuck up.

Folks like Nugent don’t even make the cut; they’re laughed at–like CC DeVille or the boys from KISS. Nugent as a guitarist is way below average.

Again, that’s your opinion and like assholes, everybody has one.

Still, that’s four albums in four years, (not counting the compilation). Hardly impressive consider people who are elite guitar players can produce hits for decades.

Remember what I said. I said he was considered one of the top rock guitarists of his era – which was that period between 1975-1980. I wouldn’t place him amongst the best of all time.

And hits don’t necessarily tell the whole story. If you look at Stevie Ray Vaughan for instance, he didn’t have any hits and his solo records weren’t certified platinum until after his death in 1989. Eric Johnson’s ‘Ah Via Musicom’ wasn’t certified platinum until thirteen years after it was released.

Oops. Typed his name into title, not artist. This is what you get for not doing your own research.

Still, that’s four albums in four years, (not counting the compilation). Hardly impressive consider people who are elite guitar players can produce hits for decades.

I’ve seen the guy play live, he’s more energy than skill. (And more mouth than those two combined.)

When you ask famous musicians who the best guitarist they ever heard was–usually, they’ll give the name of some obscure guitarist hardly anyone has heard of or some session guitarist. If you press them for a more famous name, they’ll say someone like Joe Satriani or Al DiMeola or John McLaughlin.

WRT Richards, he is regarded uin the same light as a Jimmy Page–someone who isn’t necessarily technically gifted but has created their own distinct style.

Folks like Nugent don’t even make the cut; they’re laughed at–like CC DeVille or the boys from KISS. Nugent as a guitarist is way below average.

Wow. That’s so fucking impressive.

Good grief. I guess I have to do everything. From the RIAA: The following albums of his have been certified platinum:

Ted Nugent
Free For All
Cat Scratch Fever
Double Live Gonzo
Weekend Warriors

Fine, I’ll do your research for you. He has two gold albums according to that site. His first, and a compilation release. So really one one hit album.

Wow. That’s so fucking impressive.

“WRT Richards, he isn’t considered a great guitarist but he is generally accepted as having one of the greatest right hands in the business.”

But that has nothing to do with him playing guitars.

(Joke.)

Please. Your word is worth a squirt of piss around here. I said to NAME THEM. Dipping into your own private ‘Fantasy Island’ means very little. Your penchant for being full of shit is well known across the blogosphere. So please enlighten us. Which of your famous guitarist friends are on record as saying that about Nugent? Or should we just get Mr. Rourke and Tattoo out here?

Back in the 80s, Nugent used to have this routine where he’d come on stage during an opening act’s set. He’d challenge that band’s lead guitar to a duel. The idea was that Nugent and the lead guitar would perform dueling riffs, with the culmination being the opening act genuflecting to Nugent’s mastery. Well, that routine didn’t last too long since many of the opening acts lead guitarists started kicking Nugent’s butt.

Goes to show how little you know about Nugent. His “guitar duels” were held in the early 70′s when he was ‘Ted Nugent and The Amboy Dukes’ and was still up and coming. He didn’t engage in the practice in the 80′s.

Jeebus, you know nothing about music.

I’ve forgotten more about music than you know. You proclaim to be an expert on almost everything, but then when you’re ignorance is revealed, you slink away.

WRT Richards, he isn’t considered a great guitarist but he is generally accepted as having one of the greatest right hands in the business.

What in the world are you talking about? When discussing the skill of a guitarist’s ‘right hand’ technique, they are talking about his ability to pick. Richards is largely a rhythm guitarist so he largely plays chords.

Cripes.

Jeebus, you know nothing about music. WRT Richards, he isn’t considered a great guitarist but he is generally accepted as having one of the greatest right hands in the business.

Back in the 80s, Nugent used to have this routine where he’d come on stage during an opening act’s set. He’d challenge that band’s lead guitar to a duel. The idea was that Nugent and the lead guitar would perform dueling riffs, with the culmination being the opening act genuflecting to Nugent’s mastery. Well, that routine didn’t last too long since many of the opening acts lead guitarists started kicking Nugent’s butt.

He “stood up” to crummy disco music and was a real rock n roller. He was quite influential on the generation that followed him.

Stood up to disco? You’re kidding, right? Disco died all by itself, no help needed.

Politics aside, back in the day, Ted Nugent was a bad-ass. He “stood up” to crummy disco music and was a real rock n roller. He was quite influential on the generation that followed him.

The key here is “back in the day”. Nugent hasn’t done anything musically significant in many, many years. As a result, he now seems to be all about right-wing “shtick” (an act)…guns, hating libruls, etc. His music & playing no longer get him in the spotlight, so he does the phony outrage thing.

And I say phony because as someone pointed out, if he were really serious, he could actually follow through on his threats to run for office in Michigan. I would have more respect for him if he did; he’d at least be showing the courage of his convictions if he feels that strongly about the right to bear arms.

But instead, he takes the easy way out, which is to make attention-grabbing headlines during the twilight of his career, and ride the publicity for all it’s worth. Let’s face it, you heard about this concert because of what he said, not how well he played, or a new album, etc.

What defines great Quaker? It’s subjective. I think John Bonham was a great drummer. Buddy Rich though, didn’t think much of Bonham. Somebody asked him about Bonham and he sat down and played some of ‘Moby Dick’ with almost no effort and said, “Anybody can do that.”

There are people that will get hives if you dare to suggest that Keith Richards is not one of the greatest guitarists ever. Me? I think the guy is way overrated and there’s hardly anybody that can point to specific songs and say, “Listen to this song and that song” and you’ll see what I am talking about.

Meanwhile, all I have to do is lend somebody a copy of ‘Live At The El Mocambo’ with Stevie Ray Vaughan where they can witness greatness the entire time.

Ted Nugent is not really my cup of tea. I don’t own a single Nugent album. But for people to dismiss him so haughtily as just an average guitarist is ignorant.

I also find it very hard to believe that the brilliant Mr. Nugent’s last big winner for new material “Free for All” was only fifteen years ago. (It seemed like just yesterday.)

Clearly he needs to forget all the OLN Awards, NRA kudos, and associated honors to get back to what he did best in the late seventies: cranking out album after album of earth-shaking guitar solos so amazing, they’ll charm the panties off any trailer trash unfortunate enough to hear them.

Jay, please tell me you’re just playing this one for laughs. I’ve seen you take some tough positions to defend over the years. This one beats ‘em all.

Jay: “He had more than just a “few hits” CS.”

Prove it. How many went gold. How many went platinum?