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		<title>By: Joyful Alternative</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63930</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyful Alternative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Jay said: &quot;their sole purpose is to protect the Islamic revolution.&quot; But isn&#039;t the U.S. military&#039;s purpose to protect the Constitution?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Jay said: &#8220;their sole purpose is to protect the Islamic revolution.&#8221; But isn&#8217;t the U.S. military&#8217;s purpose to protect the Constitution?</p>
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		<title>By: Ottnott</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63929</link>
		<dc:creator>Ottnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other terrorists:
--People who want to bring their own beverages and shampoo through airport security

--People who want to visit a National Park in a state that doesn&#039;t cooperate with new Federal ID systems

--People who want to attend a public Presidential event and silently express their opinions via a t-shirt or bumpersticker

--People who use a phone or the internet

--Brown-skinned people who aren&#039;t dressed for white collar jobs

--People who read blogs like this one
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other terrorists:<br />
&#8211;People who want to bring their own beverages and shampoo through airport security</p>
<p>&#8211;People who want to visit a National Park in a state that doesn&#8217;t cooperate with new Federal ID systems</p>
<p>&#8211;People who want to attend a public Presidential event and silently express their opinions via a t-shirt or bumpersticker</p>
<p>&#8211;People who use a phone or the internet</p>
<p>&#8211;Brown-skinned people who aren&#8217;t dressed for white collar jobs</p>
<p>&#8211;People who read blogs like this one</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond LeGrande</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63928</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond LeGrande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You can add this all to the list of f*ckups by the dem congress, too&lt;/i&gt;

What, you don&#039;t think its patheticness was by design? Democrats explicitly give Cheney the authority to attack Iran, with only two dissenting, one (Ron Paul) a Republican. That&#039;s isn&#039;t a mistake, that&#039;s what they want. You can&#039;t call it a mistake when the whole frigging Senate votes for it.

It strikes me as a better idea to hold the feet of the Democrats to the fire. After all, we tend to vote for them -- some here even give them money -- and we might get somewhere if we focus on them. Holding Cheney&#039;s feet to the fire is a lost cause, since he doesn&#039;t give a damn if they burn.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You can add this all to the list of f*ckups by the dem congress, too</i></p>
<p>What, you don&#8217;t think its patheticness was by design? Democrats explicitly give Cheney the authority to attack Iran, with only two dissenting, one (Ron Paul) a Republican. That&#8217;s isn&#8217;t a mistake, that&#8217;s what they want. You can&#8217;t call it a mistake when the whole frigging Senate votes for it.</p>
<p>It strikes me as a better idea to hold the feet of the Democrats to the fire. After all, we tend to vote for them &#8212; some here even give them money &#8212; and we might get somewhere if we focus on them. Holding Cheney&#8217;s feet to the fire is a lost cause, since he doesn&#8217;t give a damn if they burn.</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond LeGrande</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63927</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond LeGrande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;yet they can&#039;t actually catch or prosecute any of &#039;em&lt;/i&gt;

Oliver, you know better. Quit pretending that&#039;s the point. They never gave a damn about catching or prosecuting anyone other than maybe Saddam Hussein.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>yet they can&#8217;t actually catch or prosecute any of &#8216;em</i></p>
<p>Oliver, you know better. Quit pretending that&#8217;s the point. They never gave a damn about catching or prosecuting anyone other than maybe Saddam Hussein.</p>
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		<title>By: bill l.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63926</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can add this all to the list of f*ckups by the dem congress, too.

Remember when they debated revoking the AUMF but didn&#039;t?

Remember when they had a chance to explicitly deny Bush the authority to attack Iran, but, again, didn&#039;t?

Certainly, explaining their massive, catastrophic failures to the public as the GOP cranks up the fear mongering should be lotsa fun.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add this all to the list of f*ckups by the dem congress, too.</p>
<p>Remember when they debated revoking the AUMF but didn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Remember when they had a chance to explicitly deny Bush the authority to attack Iran, but, again, didn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Certainly, explaining their massive, catastrophic failures to the public as the GOP cranks up the fear mongering should be lotsa fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63925</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limulus, the IRGC hasn&#039;t really taken over the government as a whole, but many former members do occupy positions of power within the Iranian government to help give them political clout.

The best way I can put it is that the IRGC is kind of like what the SS was in Germany vis a vis their regular armed forces. They have their own intelligence agency, their own companies, etc. Almost a state within a state type of situation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limulus, the IRGC hasn&#8217;t really taken over the government as a whole, but many former members do occupy positions of power within the Iranian government to help give them political clout.</p>
<p>The best way I can put it is that the IRGC is kind of like what the SS was in Germany vis a vis their regular armed forces. They have their own intelligence agency, their own companies, etc. Almost a state within a state type of situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63924</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OxyCon, that is terrifying. It&#039;s like the White House is literally being run by an al-Qaeda mole.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OxyCon, that is terrifying. It&#8217;s like the White House is literally being run by an al-Qaeda mole.</p>
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		<title>By: Limulus</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63923</link>
		<dc:creator>Limulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I wasn&#039;t able to find out anything about the student uprisings and the IRGC, but I did find &lt;a href=&quot;http://urlpixie.com/6g&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these quotes&lt;/a&gt; from The Heritage Foundation:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad rose through the ranks of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the pra­etorian guard dedicated to advancing and exporting the revolution that Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini inspired in Iran in 1978–1979.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Ahmadinejad has appointed many of his Revolutionary Guard cronies to key positions throughout the government.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That reads to me like the IRGC practically took over the Iranian government, more than it being some autonomous entity. Maybe your information is just a bit out of date?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I wasn&#8217;t able to find out anything about the student uprisings and the IRGC, but I did find <a href="http://urlpixie.com/6g" rel="nofollow">these quotes</a> from The Heritage Foundation:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad rose through the ranks of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the pra­etorian guard dedicated to advancing and exporting the revolution that Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini inspired in Iran in 1978–1979.
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Ahmadinejad has appointed many of his Revolutionary Guard cronies to key positions throughout the government.
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<p>That reads to me like the IRGC practically took over the Iranian government, more than it being some autonomous entity. Maybe your information is just a bit out of date?</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63922</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of which, of course, addresses the issue. Way to go, Jay.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of which, of course, addresses the issue. Way to go, Jay.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63921</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spider, they may have been used during the Iraq/Iran war, but their sole purpose is to protect the Islamic revolution. The IRGC was ready to matters into their own hands in 1999 when they felt that Mohammad Khatami was not acting strongly enough to quell student uprisings displaying the kind of autonomy that they enjoyed.

It is no secret that the IRGC is a major support of Palestinian terror groups, as it is part of their unofficial exported activities.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spider, they may have been used during the Iraq/Iran war, but their sole purpose is to protect the Islamic revolution. The IRGC was ready to matters into their own hands in 1999 when they felt that Mohammad Khatami was not acting strongly enough to quell student uprisings displaying the kind of autonomy that they enjoyed.</p>
<p>It is no secret that the IRGC is a major support of Palestinian terror groups, as it is part of their unofficial exported activities.</p>
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		<title>By: OxyCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>OxyCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Bunch has figured out this Cheney plot:

A prelude to war: What&#039;s really behind Bush&#039;s Iran move

The White House hawks in Dick Cheney&#039;s office and elsewhere who want to stage an attack on Iran are clearly winning the internal power stuggle. And an often overlooked sub-plot on the long road toward war with Tehran is this: How could Bush stage an attack on Iran without the authorization of a skeptical, Democratic Congress?

Today, the White House has solved that pesky problem in one fell swoop. By explicitly linking the Iranian elite guard into the post 9/11 &quot;global war on terror&quot; in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush&#039;s lawyers would certainly now argue that any military strike on Iran is now covered by the October 2002 authorization to use military force in Iraq, as part of their overly sweeping response to the 2001 attacks.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attytood.com/2007/08/a_prelude_to_war_whats_really.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.attytood.com/2007/08/a_prelude_to_war_whats_really.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.attytood.com/2007/08/a_prelude_to_war_whats_really.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Bunch has figured out this Cheney plot:</p>
<p>A prelude to war: What&#8217;s really behind Bush&#8217;s Iran move</p>
<p>The White House hawks in Dick Cheney&#8217;s office and elsewhere who want to stage an attack on Iran are clearly winning the internal power stuggle. And an often overlooked sub-plot on the long road toward war with Tehran is this: How could Bush stage an attack on Iran without the authorization of a skeptical, Democratic Congress?</p>
<p>Today, the White House has solved that pesky problem in one fell swoop. By explicitly linking the Iranian elite guard into the post 9/11 &#8220;global war on terror&#8221; in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush&#8217;s lawyers would certainly now argue that any military strike on Iran is now covered by the October 2002 authorization to use military force in Iraq, as part of their overly sweeping response to the 2001 attacks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.attytood.com/2007/08/a_prelude_to_war_whats_really.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.attytood.com/2007/08/a_prelude_to_war_whats_really.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.attytood.com/2007/08/a_prelude_to_war_whats_really.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63919</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IRGC is considered both separate and parallel to the Iranian Army, Navy, and Air Force. It began as you say, but then evolved into a regular military fighting force during the Iran-Iraq war.

This isn&#039;t al-Qaida or Islamic Jihad, here.  They are a government institution, funded by the state of Iran. Which, now that I write it, makes it seem clear to me that if you want to attack a state under the aegis that said state sponsors terrorists, then all you have to do is declare that one of their regularly funded government entities is a terrorist organization.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IRGC is considered both separate and parallel to the Iranian Army, Navy, and Air Force. It began as you say, but then evolved into a regular military fighting force during the Iran-Iraq war.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t al-Qaida or Islamic Jihad, here.  They are a government institution, funded by the state of Iran. Which, now that I write it, makes it seem clear to me that if you want to attack a state under the aegis that said state sponsors terrorists, then all you have to do is declare that one of their regularly funded government entities is a terrorist organization.</p>
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		<title>By: PD100</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63918</link>
		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be easier to put them on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION??

But hey, Labor Day is coming. Time to roll out some new product.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to put them on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION??</p>
<p>But hey, Labor Day is coming. Time to roll out some new product.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63917</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, could you please square your suggestion that the Guard is not part of the Iranian military with this from the second and third paragraphs of the NY Times piece:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If imposed, the declaration would signal a more confrontational turn in the administration’s approach to Iran and would be the first time that the United States has added &lt;b&gt;the armed forces of any sovereign government to its list of terrorist organizations.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;The Revolutionary Guard is thought to be the largest branch of Iran’s military.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or are you splitting some hair that no one but you and a bunch of other hacks can see in the first place by saying that, well, they&#039;re part of the military but they aren&#039;t THE military? What the fuck is the difference?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, could you please square your suggestion that the Guard is not part of the Iranian military with this from the second and third paragraphs of the NY Times piece:</p>
<blockquote><p>If imposed, the declaration would signal a more confrontational turn in the administration’s approach to Iran and would be the first time that the United States has added <b>the armed forces of any sovereign government to its list of terrorist organizations.</b></p>
<p><b>The Revolutionary Guard is thought to be the largest branch of Iran’s military.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Or are you splitting some hair that no one but you and a bunch of other hacks can see in the first place by saying that, well, they&#8217;re part of the military but they aren&#8217;t THE military? What the fuck is the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iran&#039;s Guard is a branch of the regular military...the largest branch, in fact. Declaring the Guard a terrorist group is like declaring the USMC a terrorist group.&lt;/i&gt;

Spider, that is incorrect.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps or Pasradan as it is known was created in 1979 after the revolution, to specifically guard the revolution itself, nothing more. The Qods Force, part of the IRGC, operates outside the country specifically for the purpose of terrorist operations and terrorist training.

You&#039;re confusing the IRGC with the Islamic Republic of Iran Army/Air Force/Navy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iran&#8217;s Guard is a branch of the regular military&#8230;the largest branch, in fact. Declaring the Guard a terrorist group is like declaring the USMC a terrorist group.</i></p>
<p>Spider, that is incorrect.</p>
<p>The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps or Pasradan as it is known was created in 1979 after the revolution, to specifically guard the revolution itself, nothing more. The Qods Force, part of the IRGC, operates outside the country specifically for the purpose of terrorist operations and terrorist training.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re confusing the IRGC with the Islamic Republic of Iran Army/Air Force/Navy.</p>
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		<title>By: bill l.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/15/everybodys-a-terrorist/#comment-63915</link>
		<dc:creator>bill l.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Bush&#039;s &quot;not in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but anywhere else&quot; threat to go after terrorists and the countries that harbor them?

Talk about a transparent step towards &quot;justifying&quot; air strikes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Bush&#8217;s &#8220;not in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia but anywhere else&#8221; threat to go after terrorists and the countries that harbor them?</p>
<p>Talk about a transparent step towards &#8220;justifying&#8221; air strikes.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - You might be mistaking Iran&#039;s Revolutionary Guard with the Revolutionary Guard Corps of Libya. The latter, true, is a paramilitary unit, that functions as Qaddafi&#039;s protection force.

Iran&#039;s Guard is a branch of the regular military...the largest branch, in fact. Declaring the Guard a terrorist group is like declaring the USMC a terrorist group.

They may in fact be an hostile fighting force, but I don&#039;t understand why we need to declare them &quot;terrorists,&quot; unless we don&#039;t want to deal with anymore pesky Geneva Convention protocols if we capture any Guards.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; You might be mistaking Iran&#8217;s Revolutionary Guard with the Revolutionary Guard Corps of Libya. The latter, true, is a paramilitary unit, that functions as Qaddafi&#8217;s protection force.</p>
<p>Iran&#8217;s Guard is a branch of the regular military&#8230;the largest branch, in fact. Declaring the Guard a terrorist group is like declaring the USMC a terrorist group.</p>
<p>They may in fact be an hostile fighting force, but I don&#8217;t understand why we need to declare them &#8220;terrorists,&#8221; unless we don&#8217;t want to deal with anymore pesky Geneva Convention protocols if we capture any Guards.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should probably do a little more research into the Revolutionary Guard Corps because they are not &quot;the military.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should probably do a little more research into the Revolutionary Guard Corps because they are not &#8220;the military.&#8221;</p>
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