Comments on: Mitt Romney: My Kids Helping My Campaign Is The Same As Serving In Iraq http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64432 Dugger Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:30:13 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64432 Actually, Spider, Romney did not say his sons' actions were equal - that is merely a snotty spin put on it by progressives. And the original question, from a self-styled progressive, was about his sons not serving in the military - as if that is a disqualifier for a pres to send troops in harms way. I don't believe it is, but I believe that if the basic point of the question applies to Romney, it should apply to Ms. Clinton. And maybe Obama needs to pledge to the future military service commitment of his children. Actually, Spider, Romney did not say his sons’ actions were equal – that is merely a snotty spin put on it by progressives. And the original question, from a self-styled progressive, was about his sons not serving in the military – as if that is a disqualifier for a pres to send troops in harms way.

I don’t believe it is, but I believe that if the basic point of the question applies to Romney, it should apply to Ms. Clinton. And maybe Obama needs to pledge to the future military service commitment of his children.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64431 C.S.Strowbridge Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:02:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64431 "Ms Clinton voted for war. Bubba used the military a lot. Why isn't/wasn't Chelsea in uniform? Is it moral for Democrats to send young men and women to war and not have their own kids serve?" Hey Dugger, shut the fuck up. You are too stupid to join in when the adults are talking. You realize your side has been wrong about practically everything for the past seven years. If you had an ounce of intelligence you would realize you don't know what you are talking about. But if you had an ounce of intelligence, you wouldn't vote Republican. "(certified liberal logic applied)" This is more bullshit lies for the party that has nothing real to offer anyone. “Ms Clinton voted for war. Bubba used the military a lot. Why isn’t/wasn’t Chelsea in uniform? Is it moral for Democrats to send young men and women to war and not have their own kids serve?”

Hey Dugger, shut the fuck up. You are too stupid to join in when the adults are talking.

You realize your side has been wrong about practically everything for the past seven years. If you had an ounce of intelligence you would realize you don’t know what you are talking about.

But if you had an ounce of intelligence, you wouldn’t vote Republican.

“(certified liberal logic applied)”

This is more bullshit lies for the party that has nothing real to offer anyone.

]]> By: Graham http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64430 Graham Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:59:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64430 <i>liberal logic applied</i> Hey Dugger. You still keep hammering away at that word "liberal", don't you? You try to make it sound like it's a real dirty word, don't you? You and your wingnut buddies. It even kind of worked for a while. But it's not working anymore. It's a word to be proud of. So piss off. liberal logic applied

Hey Dugger. You still keep hammering away at that word “liberal”, don’t you? You try to make it sound like it’s a real dirty word, don’t you? You and your wingnut buddies. It even kind of worked for a while.

But it’s not working anymore. It’s a word to be proud of.

So piss off.

]]> By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64429 SpiderJ Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:45:21 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64429 Hillary does have to answer for her war vote. No argument there. Again, though, I missed the part where she had the gall to imply that Chelsea was serving America by helping her get elected. Mitt's boys aren't serving America, they're serving Mitt. He should have known better. Hillary does have to answer for her war vote. No argument there.

Again, though, I missed the part where she had the gall to imply that Chelsea was serving America by helping her get elected.

Mitt’s boys aren’t serving America, they’re serving Mitt. He should have known better.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64428 Dugger Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:32:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64428 Ms Clinton voted for war. Bubba used the military a lot. Why isn't/wasn't Chelsea in uniform? Is it moral for Democrats to send young men and women to war and not have their own kids serve? (certified liberal logic applied) Ms Clinton voted for war. Bubba used the military a lot. Why isn’t/wasn’t Chelsea in uniform? Is it moral for Democrats to send young men and women to war and not have their own kids serve? (certified liberal logic applied)

]]> By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64427 SpiderJ Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:02:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64427 The question is valid when posed to war hawks, because it becomes an issue of whether you'd still believe in the war if you had something truly precious to lose by allowing it to continue. And regardless, Mitt's response is politically tone-deaf. There are a hundred better things he could have said besides "helping dad get elected is just as good as fighting in Iraq." The question is valid when posed to war hawks, because it becomes an issue of whether you’d still believe in the war if you had something truly precious to lose by allowing it to continue.

And regardless, Mitt’s response is politically tone-deaf. There are a hundred better things he could have said besides “helping dad get elected is just as good as fighting in Iraq.”

]]> By: SixSigma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64426 SixSigma Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:52:28 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64426 Wow. The absence the thought & logic shown here are simply amazing. If you get a chance, please read about strawmen & false dichotomies, it might help in positing philisophical points in the future. To the issue though - the question posed, "Why aren't your childern serving" serves no purpose. It attempts to make some statement about the hypocritical nature of politicians, yet it doesn't even succeed in that realm. If we as a society, minimize others' opinions because they have or have not served in a conflict, you have by virtue of this decision made military members a higher status than ordinary citizens. From here I would ask - why are your opinions (or mine, or Clinton's or Romney's)less valid than soliders? Disclaimer: I don't believe soliders opinions are more valid than anyone else's; just pointing out where your logic leads. Wow. The absence the thought & logic shown here are simply amazing. If you get a chance, please read about strawmen & false dichotomies, it might help in positing philisophical points in the future.

To the issue though – the question posed, “Why aren’t your childern serving” serves no purpose. It attempts to make some statement about the hypocritical nature of politicians, yet it doesn’t even succeed in that realm.

If we as a society, minimize others’ opinions because they have or have not served in a conflict, you have by virtue of this decision made military members a higher status than ordinary citizens.

From here I would ask – why are your opinions (or mine, or Clinton’s or Romney’s)less valid than soliders?

Disclaimer: I don’t believe soliders opinions are more valid than anyone else’s; just pointing out where your logic leads.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64425 C.S.Strowbridge Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:11:27 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64425 "Chelsea?" Hey Dugger, until you have something intelligent to add to the conversation, shut the fuck up. “Chelsea?”

Hey Dugger, until you have something intelligent to add to the conversation, shut the fuck up.

]]> By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64424 SpiderJ Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:00:29 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64424 I'm sorry, I missed the part where Hillary or Bill said that Chelsea's non-military activities were the equal to soldiers serving the country in Iraq. I’m sorry, I missed the part where Hillary or Bill said that Chelsea’s non-military activities were the equal to soldiers serving the country in Iraq.

]]> By: Trenton http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64423 Trenton Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:04:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64423 Any of you brave souls ever fought in the military? Any of you brave souls ever fought in the military?

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64422 Dugger Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:35:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64422 Chelsea? Chelsea?

]]> By: Graham http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64421 Graham Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:24:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64421 They could always join the "101st Fighting Keyboarders". That way they can fight them here instead of getting their ass shot off over there. They could always join the “101st Fighting Keyboarders”.

That way they can fight them here instead of getting their ass shot off over there.

]]> By: cellulose http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64420 cellulose Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:14:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64420 I donated some money to a campaign. That should cover me. I donated some money to a campaign.

That should cover me.

]]> By: Wilbur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/08/mitt-romney-my-kids-helping-my-campaign-is-the-same-as-serving-in-iraq/#comment-64419 Wilbur Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:05:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5540#comment-64419 That's okay. If they're anything like their father I don't _want_ Mitt's sons serving in the military -- or in <i>any</i> position of responsibility. That’s okay. If they’re anything like their father I don’t _want_ Mitt’s sons serving in the military — or in any position of responsibility.

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