Comments on: Dept. Of Really Bad Ideas http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:23:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mark http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64688 Mark Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:38:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64688 Marc Andreessen writes: Next up: cheap, high-quality, fuel-efficient Japanese blogs take over the market. <a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/08/next-up-cheap-h.html" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/08/next-up-cheap-h.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/08/next-up-cheap-h.html</a></a> Marc Andreessen writes:
Next up: cheap, high-quality, fuel-efficient Japanese blogs take over the market.

http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/08/next-up-cheap-h.html

]]> By: Carol http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64687 Carol Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:03:50 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64687 While I'm hardly a blogger, let alone one who makes a living at it, I can see some sort of AARP type group that can get discounts on things such as computers, office supplies, travel and so forth. The only problem I see is where you draw the line on membership. Just how large or active a long-lived a blog has to be in order to qualify? While I’m hardly a blogger, let alone one who makes a living at it, I can see some sort of AARP type group that can get discounts on things such as computers, office supplies, travel and so forth. The only problem I see is where you draw the line on membership. Just how large or active a long-lived a blog has to be in order to qualify?

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64686 Oliver Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:53:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64686 I don't think I need to see a panel on evolution of blogs, I've lived the evolution of blogs. I don’t think I need to see a panel on evolution of blogs, I’ve lived the evolution of blogs.

]]> By: Adam Herman http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64685 Adam Herman Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:50:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64685 Sounds to me like they are looking to form a guild, not a union. Sounds to me like they are looking to form a guild, not a union.

]]> By: Benny http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64684 Benny Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:33:50 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64684 OW, you missed the panel on the evolution of blogs. Maybe for you, it is not real work to be a blogger (since you have a good employer), but for folks like Stoller or Bowers, Taylor Marsh, and Digby, I think they may believe differently. OW, you missed the panel on the evolution of blogs. Maybe for you, it is not real work to be a blogger (since you have a good employer), but for folks like Stoller or Bowers, Taylor Marsh, and Digby, I think they may believe differently.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64683 Oliver Willis Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:02:51 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64683 Journalism is real work. Blogging isn't. Journalism is real work. Blogging isn’t.

]]> By: Athenae http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64682 Athenae Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:08:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64682 There are writers' unions that bloggers could join, sure. An existing organization might serve the need, though I don't know enough about any of them to say for certain. That's a different argument, though, than the one your post is making, which is that blogging isn't "real work" and thus does not qualify one for union membership. A. There are writers’ unions that bloggers could join, sure. An existing organization might serve the need, though I don’t know enough about any of them to say for certain.

That’s a different argument, though, than the one your post is making, which is that blogging isn’t “real work” and thus does not qualify one for union membership.

A.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64681 Oliver Willis Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:19:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64681 If someone is doing real journalism on their blog, isnt there already a journalists union they can join? A union for bloggers is like a union for computerists, that is, a union for anyone who uses a computer. A blog is a tool. If someone is doing real journalism on their blog, isnt there already a journalists union they can join? A union for bloggers is like a union for computerists, that is, a union for anyone who uses a computer. A blog is a tool.

]]> By: Athenae http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64680 Athenae Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:00:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64680 "Blogging" doesn't mean the same thing to everybody. For some people it's just fucking around on a web site, sure, while they get paychecks someplace else. For others, it's a way to do real journalism, and I can't see anybody arguing against writers or journalists forming unions, not with the shitty state of corporate news and artistic ownership these days. Who's to decide whose work is "real" and whose isn't? I love your work, Oliver, but wow, do I ever disgree with you there. A. “Blogging” doesn’t mean the same thing to everybody. For some people it’s just fucking around on a web site, sure, while they get paychecks someplace else.

For others, it’s a way to do real journalism, and I can’t see anybody arguing against writers or journalists forming unions, not with the shitty state of corporate news and artistic ownership these days.

Who’s to decide whose work is “real” and whose isn’t? I love your work, Oliver, but wow, do I ever disgree with you there.

A.

]]> By: Megamoze http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64679 Megamoze Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:49:19 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64679 Get Universal Health Care passed and that issue becomes a moot point. Get Universal Health Care passed and that issue becomes a moot point.

]]> By: Nicholas Beaudrot http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/06/dept-of-really-bad-ideas/#comment-64678 Nicholas Beaudrot Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:14:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5565#comment-64678 I think it would be useful ... if only for getting a health insurance pool. Obviously there's not a need for a lot of other stuff. Also Susie is a rare bird that's becoming rarer; someone who blogs daily but doesn't have a day job. even Duncan Black now gets paid by Media Matters; most other blogs have some institution that pays them. Susie doesn't just want benefits like health insurance; she needs them. I think it would be useful … if only for getting a health insurance pool. Obviously there’s not a need for a lot of other stuff.

Also Susie is a rare bird that’s becoming rarer; someone who blogs daily but doesn’t have a day job. even Duncan Black now gets paid by Media Matters; most other blogs have some institution that pays them. Susie doesn’t just want benefits like health insurance; she needs them.

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