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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;They get nothing right. Their fact-checking skills are atrocious. They neither report nor call experts, it&#8217;s just whatever they invented twenty seconds ago.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/02/they-get-nothing-right-their-fact-checking-skills-are-atrocious-they-neither-report-nor-call-experts-its-just-whatever-they-invented-twenty-seconds-ago/#comment-64956</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be a 26%er but you are a 3%.
By the way the gig is up TNR&#039;s little soldier boy recanted on the first day of the investigation.

So once again. Oliver is wrong.      One day he will get tired of this happening to him over and over again and join the right side.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be a 26%er but you are a 3%.<br />
By the way the gig is up TNR&#8217;s little soldier boy recanted on the first day of the investigation.</p>
<p>So once again. Oliver is wrong.      One day he will get tired of this happening to him over and over again and join the right side.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;His heart is in the right place his mind is definitely in denying reality.&lt;/i&gt;

says a 26%er.


Funniest thing I&#039;ve read all day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>His heart is in the right place his mind is definitely in denying reality.</i></p>
<p>says a 26%er.</p>
<p>Funniest thing I&#8217;ve read all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea because Michelle Malkin would never lie or make up things to support her smears.  Ask Jamil Hussein.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea because Michelle Malkin would never lie or make up things to support her smears.  Ask Jamil Hussein.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Temple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fun blog, because Oliver seems like ok guy with a serious case of Bush Derangement Syndrome.  His heart is in the right place his mind is definitely in denying reality.

&lt;a href=&quot;Http://michellemalkin.Com/2007/08/03/the-scott-thomas-beauchamp-saga-the-fallibility-of-tnrs-fact-checkers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

RaTHer than get embarrassed like this AGAIN.  Somebody should think: &quot;If I was handed this story at a livestock auction, would I publish it?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fun blog, because Oliver seems like ok guy with a serious case of Bush Derangement Syndrome.  His heart is in the right place his mind is definitely in denying reality.</p>
<p><a href="Http://michellemalkin.Com/2007/08/03/the-scott-thomas-beauchamp-saga-the-fallibility-of-tnrs-fact-checkers/" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>RaTHer than get embarrassed like this AGAIN.  Somebody should think: &#8220;If I was handed this story at a livestock auction, would I publish it?&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/02/they-get-nothing-right-their-fact-checking-skills-are-atrocious-they-neither-report-nor-call-experts-its-just-whatever-they-invented-twenty-seconds-ago/#comment-64952</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First you said it was made up. Then you said it was irrelevant. Which goalpost are you arguing for, Farris? And you&#039;re right -- I have infinitely more sympathy for an anonymous Army private who gets targeted for  Michelle Malkin&#039;s harassment tactics than I do for Bill O&#039;Reilly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First you said it was made up. Then you said it was irrelevant. Which goalpost are you arguing for, Farris? And you&#8217;re right &#8212; I have infinitely more sympathy for an anonymous Army private who gets targeted for  Michelle Malkin&#8217;s harassment tactics than I do for Bill O&#8217;Reilly.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/02/they-get-nothing-right-their-fact-checking-skills-are-atrocious-they-neither-report-nor-call-experts-its-just-whatever-they-invented-twenty-seconds-ago/#comment-64951</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story about how serving him in Iraq dehumanized him to the point that he made fun of a disfigured woman.  Happened BEFORE he served in Iraq, rendering the entire reason for that story irrelevant.  Don&#039;t agree?  How would you feel were GWB to write in his autobiography that he was insipred to run for President after the horrific events of 9/11?

Yeah ... I thought so.

So harrassing people is beyond the pale, eh?  I didn&#039;t see you so high and mighty about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/a-visit-to-bill.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt;.  Seems your outrage is ... shall we say ... selective.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story about how serving him in Iraq dehumanized him to the point that he made fun of a disfigured woman.  Happened BEFORE he served in Iraq, rendering the entire reason for that story irrelevant.  Don&#8217;t agree?  How would you feel were GWB to write in his autobiography that he was insipred to run for President after the horrific events of 9/11?</p>
<p>Yeah &#8230; I thought so.</p>
<p>So harrassing people is beyond the pale, eh?  I didn&#8217;t see you so high and mighty about <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/a-visit-to-bill.html" rel="nofollow">this guy</a>.  Seems your outrage is &#8230; shall we say &#8230; selective.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back it up. Not one of his stories was &quot;completely made up.&quot;

But it&#039;s not longer astonishing that you think a person should be targeted for harassment by Michelle Malkin and the right wing army of brownshirt flying monkeys simply because she doesn&#039;t like a guy&#039;s politics.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back it up. Not one of his stories was &#8220;completely made up.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not longer astonishing that you think a person should be targeted for harassment by Michelle Malkin and the right wing army of brownshirt flying monkeys simply because she doesn&#8217;t like a guy&#8217;s politics.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by &quot;vindicated&quot;, you mean &quot;at least 33% of his stories are completely made up and the rest are pending further investigation&quot;, then yeah.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;vindicated&#8221;, you mean &#8220;at least 33% of his stories are completely made up and the rest are pending further investigation&#8221;, then yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beauchamp has been vindicated, Farris. I cna&#039;t believe you&#039;re defending how Malkin had him personally harassed by her fascist dittohead minions, just because you disagree with his politics. You degrade yourself morally every time you go down this path, Farris.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beauchamp has been vindicated, Farris. I cna&#8217;t believe you&#8217;re defending how Malkin had him personally harassed by her fascist dittohead minions, just because you disagree with his politics. You degrade yourself morally every time you go down this path, Farris.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean Scott Beauchamp, right?  The guy even TNR admits made up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=6581&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no less than 33%&lt;/a&gt; of his material.  While 66% would be a hell of a batting average, it&#039;s not quite as impressive for a media outlet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean Scott Beauchamp, right?  The guy even TNR admits made up <a href="http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=6581" rel="nofollow">no less than 33%</a> of his material.  While 66% would be a hell of a batting average, it&#8217;s not quite as impressive for a media outlet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/08/02/they-get-nothing-right-their-fact-checking-skills-are-atrocious-they-neither-report-nor-call-experts-its-just-whatever-they-invented-twenty-seconds-ago/#comment-64946</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You sure knocked the hell out of that strawman.&quot;

The only person hurt in this affair has been Scott Thomas, on whom the right wing has seen fit to vent their fury and their intimidation tactics. Are you really so surprised Malkin sent her brownshirts on a mission to personally harass him into silence? It&#039;s hardly the first time, Farris.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You sure knocked the hell out of that strawman.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only person hurt in this affair has been Scott Thomas, on whom the right wing has seen fit to vent their fury and their intimidation tactics. Are you really so surprised Malkin sent her brownshirts on a mission to personally harass him into silence? It&#8217;s hardly the first time, Farris.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wellstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, please keep walkin.

Dan Rather and Mary Mapes?  ANOTHER prime example of lynching by the Right Wing.

Rather and Mapes got the story right.  But the MSM decided to go along with the Right-Wing idiots and hung them out to dry.

There&#039;s no question the documents which were called out as &quot;forgeries&quot; had the right info on them.  No one&#039;s ever disputed that.

There&#039;s no question Bush never completed his service in the TANG, no question he left the TANG without permission, no question he sent Dan Bartlett and Karen Hughes to Texas when he ran for Governor to scour his records and clean up the mess.

But because some news directors, PR Departments, and right-wing moles were able to build and maintain a bogus narrative, (See the heading of this thread) they got Rather canned.

Congratulations.

But now, the problem for you guys is CREDIBILITY.

You lose more of what little you had every day.  No one listens to O&#039;Reilly, Boortz, Hannity, or even Rush for the truth anymore, they know they&#039;re all in the tank.

And that, boys and girls, is how the Right Wing pissed away any chance at being the  future.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, please keep walkin.</p>
<p>Dan Rather and Mary Mapes?  ANOTHER prime example of lynching by the Right Wing.</p>
<p>Rather and Mapes got the story right.  But the MSM decided to go along with the Right-Wing idiots and hung them out to dry.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no question the documents which were called out as &#8220;forgeries&#8221; had the right info on them.  No one&#8217;s ever disputed that.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no question Bush never completed his service in the TANG, no question he left the TANG without permission, no question he sent Dan Bartlett and Karen Hughes to Texas when he ran for Governor to scour his records and clean up the mess.</p>
<p>But because some news directors, PR Departments, and right-wing moles were able to build and maintain a bogus narrative, (See the heading of this thread) they got Rather canned.</p>
<p>Congratulations.</p>
<p>But now, the problem for you guys is CREDIBILITY.</p>
<p>You lose more of what little you had every day.  No one listens to O&#8217;Reilly, Boortz, Hannity, or even Rush for the truth anymore, they know they&#8217;re all in the tank.</p>
<p>And that, boys and girls, is how the Right Wing pissed away any chance at being the  future.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are walking away then?  Works for me.
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		<title>By: calling all toasters</title>
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		<dc:creator>calling all toasters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dan Rather, etc.&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, the glory days of 2004, when typing up Karl Rove&#039;s faxes gets you the one-and-only &quot;Blog of the Year&quot; award.  Things are a little tougher now, huh?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dan Rather, etc.</i></p>
<p>Ah, the glory days of 2004, when typing up Karl Rove&#8217;s faxes gets you the one-and-only &#8220;Blog of the Year&#8221; award.  Things are a little tougher now, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;You sure knocked the hell out of that strawman....SaveFarrisHilton &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It seems that the entire nutwing attack was wingding affair, full of sound and fury, signifying ignorance. You get your panties in a bunch, you get exposed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>You sure knocked the hell out of that strawman&#8230;.SaveFarrisHilton </i></p></blockquote>
<p>It seems that the entire nutwing attack was wingding affair, full of sound and fury, signifying ignorance. You get your panties in a bunch, you get exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sure knocked the hell out of that strawman.  Congratulations on a job well done.
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		<title>By: Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear, the objective of the right-wing &quot;outrage&quot; was not to make an actual point. It was to bully a critic of the war into silence. In that, they succeeded. That&#039;s precisely how these Malkinites step closer to fascism every day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, the objective of the right-wing &#8220;outrage&#8221; was not to make an actual point. It was to bully a critic of the war into silence. In that, they succeeded. That&#8217;s precisely how these Malkinites step closer to fascism every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Victor Davis Handjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, they&#039;re an army of Duggers.
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