I have to give Mike Gravel credit for being one of the few politicians who calls bullshit on having all options on the table.

Ya, I got that. Still stupid.

The mistake comes in thinking that the inside-the-beltway press listens first, then makes up a tale to fit what the candidate said. In fact, it’s just the opposite: the press corps defines its script and shapes the facts to fit.

Probably.

Self deprecation, even humorous, is a rare and refreshing thing on this board. Ironic that it comes a ‘hit and runner’ against Quaker.

Do you want a Democrat in the White House? Get used to slogans.

“It’s the economy, stupid.”
“The people not the powerful.”

As I recall, these “slogans” weren’t answers to questions, but summarizations of the legendary wonkery of Mr. Clinton and Mr. Gore. Both were backed up with a couple of boxcars full of nuance.

Same challenge for you as for Vic–rewrite Mr. Obama’s answer. Give him a “slogan” that fits and doesn’t leave him vulnerable to attack.

Probably.

Nuance doesn’t trouble me.

Sure it does. You said so yourself at 6:33 and 58 seconds.

It’s half wits like you who want the world to think when in fact the world works at the gut level.

Reason? Intellect? Logic? Nosiree! We’ll have none, thank you.

We will continue to lose until we play politics like the right does, i.e. the half wit slogans which you deride.

And if we win with half-wit slogans, then will we turn back to actual policy?

I for one would rather win.

And I would like to know what our prospective leaders actually plan to do. Second-guessing the reactions of the press and the right-wing attack dogs is a sucker’s game.

Go ahead. Rewrite Mr. Obama’s response for him–but make sure you give him an answer to the question that doesn’t leave him open to the predictable attacks from all the usual suspects.

I sez you can’t.

Do you want a Democrat in the White House? Get used to slogans.

“It’s the economy, stupid.”
“The people not the powerful.”

I was referring to the Pakistanis, BTW.

Are you stupid? Seriously. Nuance doesn’t trouble me. It’s half wits like you who want the world to think when in fact the world works at the gut level. We will continue to lose until we play politics like the right does, i.e. the half wit slogans which you deride. I for one would rather win.

My goodness.

By that standard, Mr. Obama will have very little to say. Without this “nuance” that troubles you so, he’d be reduced to slinging jingoistic, half-wit slogans.

Al Qaeda has nukes now? News to me. Quick, call Jack Bauer!