BTW, are Carter and Clinton in on it? You can tell me. I’ll keep it all hush hush. Mums de woid.

Look! Over there!

Speaking of which, you still never answered my question about it. Rather, you ran away with your tail between your legs.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, step right up! See it for yourself! (Not so close, son.) We now have two Osama conspiracy truthers among our regulars.

Ok, then riddle me this, Batman. Why DID Bush admit that he wasn’t concerned about Osama. Seems to me that catching him isn’t that high on his priority list. Now, if the failure to catch Osama was due to gross incompetence, I wouldn’t be suprised in the least. After all, we should take both sides of the arguement into account.

Bush is claiming that the reason we should stay in Iraq is because Osama Bin Laden thinks we should…

Isn’t it funny how half the left hates Bush because they think he hates people of Mideastern origin/members of Islam and the other half of the left hates him because they are sure he is conspiring with those very same people. That Bush family sure gets around.

But even if you believe the conspiracy theories that Carlyle luminaries are pulling strings on the company’s behalf, there is evidence they haven’t been very good at it lately. The current Bush administration has sloughed off advice from Baker calling for restraint in the Middle East, where Carlyle has investors, and from former president Bush on the need for calm on the Korean peninsula, where Carlyle owns banks. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld even canceled the $11 billion Crusader howitzer program, a crucial contract for the Carlyle-owned United Defense company.

And a self-hater.

Former President George H. W. Bush meets with the bin Laden family on behalf of the Carlyle Group. He had also met with them in November 1998 (see November 1998), but it is not known if he meets with them again after this. Bush denies this meeting took place until a thank you note is found confirming that it took place. [Wall Street Journal, 9/27/2001; Guardian, 10/31/2001]

Oh and I have no understaing of people.

When President George W. Bush froze assets connected to Osama bin Laden, he didn’t tell the American people that the terrorist mastermind’s late brother was an investor in the president’s former oil business in Texas. He also hasn’t leveled with the American public about his financial connections to a host of shady Saudi characters involved in drug cartels, gun smuggling, and terrorist networks.

Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family. Much of the Bush family wealth came from supplying needed raw materials and credit to Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. Several business operations managed by Prescott Bush - the president’s grandfather - were seized by the US government during World War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned the bank’s shares. Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organizations for Hitler’s Third Reich. Again, on November 8, 1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler.

Godwin’s Law be damned. Dealing with terror organizations is clearly an old family tradition.

Where the fuck did you pick that up, Projections “R” Us?

I consider a truther as someone who believes something patently stupid - usually a conspiracy involving some nefariousness on the part of evil conservative Republicans or just Americans. I consider the thought that we get OBL wnenever we want to and choose not to for some sinister Bush-o-phobic reason - a classic case of trutherness.

And I really think it all gets back to having incredibly inflexible political and ideological beliefs, no understanding of people, little real world experience and perhaps a large dash of self-hate.

And I have to think: you believe that and will argue with me about anthropogenic global warming. Makes me feel better about my position there.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, step right up! See it for yourself! (Not so close, son.) We now have two Osama conspiracy truthers among our regulars.

I believe it has less to do with corperate ties, and more to do with keeping Osama alive to act as a boogyman. After all, he said that he wasn’t concerned abous Osama.

And to The Cowardly Duggs, talk to us about the “real world” when you get there.

Oh yes, cuz it’s all puppies and sausages in your world, ain’t it, Dugger? Unless you live in L.A.

Unless you’re an Iraqi. One million Iraqi dead, two million Iraqi refugees, all thanks to the liar-in-chief and cheerleaders like you.

Thats sad Duros. Hope you feel better. There’s a whole real world out there to enjoy.