Comments on: The $100 Million Enthusiasm Gap http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Wellstone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65782 Wellstone Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:06:54 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65782 Short answer to Mike: It's GOOD for business to contribute to the Party in Power! I am all for the innovative plans laid out by James Carville in his book to reform the entire election/contribution/campaign process. Until then, the GOP has enjoyed the vast bulk of support from business for the last generation, and has repaid business back handsomely. Nominal tax rates for corporations have plunged, gross and net profit margins and earnings are in the stratosphere, productivity and ROI are a capitalist's dream. I think they're stealing the US taxpayer blind. I would like to see tax policy shift more towards Americans, and away from taxpayer subsidies, allowances, credits, and loopholes squandered on "American" corporations that are really globals, not Americans. These Corps know they are in for some adjustments. I would like to see Dem Congresses and Administrations begin to make Corps pay as much in taxes as rich Americans. It is this fear that is making Wall Street open their checkbooks for Dems, and I hope Dems take their money and do the right thing ANYWAY.. Short answer to Mike: It’s GOOD for business to contribute to the Party in Power!

I am all for the innovative plans laid out by James Carville in his book to reform the entire election/contribution/campaign process.

Until then, the GOP has enjoyed the vast bulk of support from business for the last generation, and has repaid business back handsomely.

Nominal tax rates for corporations have plunged, gross and net profit margins and earnings are in the stratosphere, productivity and ROI are a capitalist’s dream.

I think they’re stealing the US taxpayer blind. I would like to see tax policy shift more towards Americans, and away from taxpayer subsidies, allowances, credits, and loopholes squandered on “American” corporations that are really globals, not Americans.

These Corps know they are in for some adjustments. I would like to see Dem Congresses and Administrations begin to make Corps pay as much in taxes as rich Americans.

It is this fear that is making Wall Street open their checkbooks for Dems, and I hope Dems take their money and do the right thing ANYWAY..

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65781 Oliver Willis Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:28:29 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65781 Actually I think it's more along the lines that the big money is on the Dems because they see a shift coming in the Democratic direction too. Actually I think it’s more along the lines that the big money is on the Dems because they see a shift coming in the Democratic direction too.

]]> By: Mike http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65780 Mike Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:25:04 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65780 "Most of the contributions from active military are going to Democrats." I couldn't find that statistic in the WSJ article. Did I skip over it? What is your source, RePack? However, I did find this: "Blackstone Group, <b><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Carlyle_Group" rel="nofollow">Carlyle Group</a></b> and other members of the Private Equity Council trade group gave 69% of their $3.4 million in campaign donations to Democrats last year, up from 51% of $2.7 million in 2000, data from the Center for Responsive Politics show. Separate data for large hedge funds show a similar pattern of giving. Other sectors are following suit. The securities industry flipped its allegiance to Democrats in 2006, giving more to Democrats than Republicans for the first time in a decade, the Center for Responsive Politics said." Perhaps Wellstone or someone else could give us the "Official Explanation"TM of why the Democrats are kissing the rings of the filthy rich and the military-industrial complex. “Most of the contributions from active military are going to Democrats.”

I couldn’t find that statistic in the WSJ article. Did I skip over it? What is your source, RePack?

However, I did find this:

“Blackstone Group, Carlyle Group and other members of the Private Equity Council trade group gave 69% of their $3.4 million in campaign donations to Democrats last year, up from 51% of $2.7 million in 2000, data from the Center for Responsive Politics show. Separate data for large hedge funds show a similar pattern of giving.

Other sectors are following suit. The securities industry flipped its allegiance to Democrats in 2006, giving more to Democrats than Republicans for the first time in a decade, the Center for Responsive Politics said.”

Perhaps Wellstone or someone else could give us the “Official Explanation”TM of why the Democrats are kissing the rings of the filthy rich and the military-industrial complex.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65779 C.S.Strowbridge Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:22:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65779 "Question: If you're the GOP, what do you do to turn back this tide?" Hopefully they'll yell Iraq, 9/11, Gays and Abortion over and over and over again. “Question: If you’re the GOP, what do you do to turn back this tide?”

Hopefully they’ll yell Iraq, 9/11, Gays and Abortion over and over and over again.

]]> By: Wellstone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65778 Wellstone Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:48:51 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65778 Thanks for the heads-up, Ollie. Mad props to him, too. He's gettin' the job done. Question: If you're the GOP, what do you do to turn back this tide? Thanks for the heads-up, Ollie.

Mad props to him, too. He’s gettin’ the job done.

Question: If you’re the GOP, what do you do to turn back this tide?

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65777 Oliver Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:46:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65777 Wellstone, FYI the head of the DCCC this cycle is not Rahm but Maryland's own <a href="http://www.dccc.org/about/leadership/" rel="nofollow">Rep. Chris Van Hollen</a> Wellstone, FYI the head of the DCCC this cycle is not Rahm but Maryland’s own Rep. Chris Van Hollen

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65776 C.S.Strowbridge Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:45:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65776 "but lots going against the notBad guys (e.g., moneybags, Tim Russert, WaPo ed page, and whatnot)." This is important and can't be said enough. The media is the biggest opponent for the Democrats this election cycle. I'm still hearing crap about Hillary being unelectable due to her image problem. Yet she's leading in every D vs. R poll I've seen in the past month. “but lots going against the notBad guys (e.g., moneybags, Tim Russert, WaPo ed page, and whatnot).”

This is important and can’t be said enough. The media is the biggest opponent for the Democrats this election cycle.

I’m still hearing crap about Hillary being unelectable due to her image problem. Yet she’s leading in every D vs. R poll I’ve seen in the past month.

]]> By: Repack Rider http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65775 Repack Rider Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:23:21 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65775 Most of the contributions from active military are going to Democrats. Dugger? Farris? Can we get the Official Explanation (tm) why the military hates America? Most of the contributions from active military are going to Democrats.

Dugger? Farris? Can we get the Official Explanation ™ why the military hates America?

]]> By: Wellstone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65774 Wellstone Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:22:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65774 I have to give mad props to Howard Dean, Rahm Emmanuel, and Chuck Schumer, who have beaten their Rethug counterparts like red-headed stepchildren this Election cycle. Who knows what will be in 2010, but for 2008 the GOP is beginning to realize the news is MUCH worse than it looks, and it looks pretty bad. I have to give mad props to Howard Dean, Rahm Emmanuel, and Chuck Schumer, who have beaten their Rethug counterparts like red-headed stepchildren this Election cycle.

Who knows what will be in 2010, but for 2008 the GOP is beginning to realize the news is MUCH worse than it looks, and it looks pretty bad.

]]> By: Duder http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65773 Duder Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:11:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65773 A nonRepublican presidential victory in 2008 will not come easy. Lots of good signs at this moment, but lots going against the notBad guys (e.g., moneybags, Tim Russert, WaPo ed page, and whatnot). A nonRepublican presidential victory in 2008 will not come easy. Lots of good signs at this moment, but lots going against the notBad guys (e.g., moneybags, Tim Russert, WaPo ed page, and whatnot).

]]> By: Carol http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65772 Carol Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:46:45 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65772 And with an incumbent VP not only not running, and the President with Nixon-like approval ratings, the fundraising machine isn't what it used to be. Bush can't go out and rally the faithful to give nor can he exhort people to "preserve the gains" either. And with an incumbent VP not only not running, and the President with Nixon-like approval ratings, the fundraising machine isn’t what it used to be. Bush can’t go out and rally the faithful to give nor can he exhort people to “preserve the gains” either.

]]> By: E. I. Sanchez http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65771 E. I. Sanchez Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:31:56 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65771 It is really amazing the type of money raised and spent in marketing. The presidency is all about the best marketing. Perhaps this is why the best candidate may not be the one in the White House. -EI It is really amazing the type of money raised and spent in marketing. The presidency is all about the best marketing. Perhaps this is why the best candidate may not be the one in the White House.

-EI

]]> By: mdhåtter http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65770 mdhåtter Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:22:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65770 And some of us haven't even started giving yet. It is still mid-2007, after all. And some of us haven’t even started giving yet.

It is still mid-2007, after all.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65769 C.S.Strowbridge Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:52:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65769 I wonder if the Republican pundits are getting worried behind closed doors. I know it's early, but practically every indication right now has the Democratic party making big gains in '08, including taking the White House. It must be hard for them to find good news to rally their base and I don't think they'll get much play from fear and hatred, at least not outside the 26%ers. I wonder if the Republican pundits are getting worried behind closed doors. I know it’s early, but practically every indication right now has the Democratic party making big gains in ’08, including taking the White House. It must be hard for them to find good news to rally their base and I don’t think they’ll get much play from fear and hatred, at least not outside the 26%ers.

]]> By: Duder http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/07/22/the-100-million-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-65768 Duder Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:30:48 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5660#comment-65768 That's better than if that type of doough were flowing in the other direction, but just remember that when it comes time for next year's version of the Swift Boat Scumbags, the Repulicans will have more than ample cash on hand. That’s better than if that type of doough were flowing in the other direction, but just remember that when it comes time for next year’s version of the Swift Boat Scumbags, the Repulicans will have more than ample cash on hand.

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