Mrs. Edwards is the hero of the day. She gave Ann Coulter a real “have you no shame” moment today. The bigger question is why Chris Matthews gives a hatemonger like Coulter free airtime. The supposedly liberal media continues to fail.
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He gives her a free pass because they have the same taste in men.
EE as she as known, tried to be polite, but I liked her smackdown. I recall what Coulter said three years ago about John Edwards “dragging out his dead son” to win votes after he was tapped to be the VP nominee.
Coulter has no class, nor does she seek it. She’s another cheap political lounge lizard, and proud of it. Tweety needs ratings.
Not only Hardball. The previous day, she was on ABC’s Good Morning America.
Anyway, I must give Ms. C honesty points for admitting that if she forswears personal attacks, she’ll have to find another line of work.
Oh one other thing: Ms. Edwards started out by saying something about “Down south, when somebody is doing something we don’t like, we politely ask them to stop.”
She didn’t tell Ms. C what comes next. I know what comes next. Ms. C won’t like it.
Coulter is a performance artist, and her art is media manipulation, especially getting folks to give her airtime. She contributes nothing to political discourse, of course, but if you want to get on television, ask her for advice.
Coulter didn’t fall for that gelatinous “southern charm”: “Stop fucking with my husband, bless your little heart!
So, Coulter’s tacky. So’s Christopher Hitchens. Haven’t seen a column about him around here.
Coulter’s shtick is right wing hate/porn.
She really knows how to get the hate bubbling in the 26 percenter’s veins…they need it like crack addicts. Ann is their hookup.
Goddamn it, Frank, can’t you even denounce the vileness of Ann Coulter without a semi-defense and equivocation?
You’re worthless.
Back to the topic at hand… it’s hard to believe anyone takes Coulter seriously. Near as I can tell, she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Also a worthless person.
Hitchens and Coulter are on the same side with regards to the Iraq War and the Clintons. Mambo’s right, you are worthless.
I’m worthless because I don’t unequivocally hate Ann Coulter?
And you all derive value from your hatred of her?
You know what makes me laugh? You’re all showing off for each other right now.
I suppose that if I were to say, “I denounce the vileness of Ann Coulter”, you would open your arms and welcome me as one of your own.
Just how repulsive would I have to find her to be perceived by you as not worthless?
How about as repulsive as Bill Maher? As repulsive as Lewis Black? As repulsive as Jon Stewart?
How about someone who calls the President a “crap stain”? Does that person have more class than Ann Coulter?
Maher, Black and Stewart have never expressly advocated the murder of people who disagree with them. Nor have they called victims of national tragedies whores. Feel free to try and equivocate again though. Perhaps with Michael Moore, who must have at some point said he would love it if anyone who disliked his movie was disemboweled in front of him. Has to have happened, right? I mean that would be the thing that would make them equal, and they are, right?
Or heres a better idea, how about you just not actually say anything when you have nothing to contribute aside from a pathetically transparent to distract. Would that work for you Franky-D my main man?
Yes! And I (and those others you cited) would love to have 1/100 the platform the media gives Ann Coulter.
“I suppose that if I were to say, “I denounce the vileness of Ann Coulter”, you would open your arms and welcome me as one of your own.”
No. But we would agree with you on that point.
“How about someone who calls the President a “crap stain”? Does that person have more class than Ann Coulter?”
She has called on people to assassinate those she disagrees with. You can’t find anything Bill Maher, Lewis Black, or Jon Stewart has said that compairs.
Like Ann Coulter, Frank needs people to detest and loathe him. It is really too bad that a man can go through 60 years of living and this is the wellspring of his existence.
Look, you either think Coulter is disgusting and will say so without equivocation, or you are disgusting yourself. Frank is disgusting.
Anybody who even remotely attempts to defend Ann Coulter with equivocation, like our Dear Old Frank, is a sick person. Ann called 9/11 widows harpies and whores. End of story. She’s an absolute disgrace as a human being.
“Ann called 9/11 widows harpies and whores. End of story.”
I don’t even consider that the worst thing she’s said.
I read one of her columns and laughed my ass off. I went to read another and realized she was serious.
I thought she was writing satire at first.
Ann Coulter goes overboard frequently, but often she’s sharp and funny. I would never use her as a source but would read her if I wanted a no-holds-barred humor re the hater left (ie, most of you folks).
Look, you either think Coulter is disgusting and will say so without equivocation, or you are disgusting yourself.
Anybody who even remotely attempts to defend Ann Coulter with equivocation … is a sick person
Frank needs people to detest and loathe him. {zadura, of course — he must be pitching a book — I hope it has nothing to do with gerontology}
I thought she was writing satire at first.
This is conventional wisdom at Oliver’s.
I am proud to dissent.
When you get into these denouncing contests, I have to laugh. I’m not sure when it started, but I missed it.
When did it become so damned important to “denounce bad people” that, if you didn’t denounce a bad person, you, by extension, became a bad person: “You are as bad as someone you don’t hate and denounce?”
When did that happen?
See, the person in question is Ann Coulter, so it’s not about denouncing bad people so much as truly horrible, indefensibly despicable people.
Furthermore, you certainly can’t “denounce” her for saying bad things, or stuff in bad taste, or being cold hearted, because you have ALL been guilty of that, have you not?
Besides, the more important point I was making was the Ms. Edwards was slapping on liberal doses of the syrupy southern charm, so much so, that it was oozing out of the transcript.
Yes! And I (and those others you cited) would love to have 1/100 the platform the media gives Ann Coulter.
If the Libs weren’t hanging on her every word giving her more attention than she deserves you would have her platform.
“but often she’s sharp and funny.”
You mean like a rubber pencil being shoved in an eye socket? Perhaps.
I was making was the Ms. Edwards was slapping on liberal doses of the syrupy southern charm, so much so, that it was oozing out of the transcript.
Gee, I can’t think of anyone who manipulates the Southern Charm thingy:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,97057,00.html
Oh, thats right, He’s A Connecticut born cheerleader trying to sound like a Texas hayseed shitheel.
Ann Coulter goes overboard frequently, but often she’s sharp and funny.
I keep hearing this and I keep never seeing it. And I don’t think its because teh librul 3vil media doesn’t let her true wit shine thorough, I honestly believe its because she doesn’t have any. The closest thing to an actual joke I’ve found is: “If John Kerry had a dollar for every time he bragged about serving in Vietnam — oh wait, he does.” And I freely admit thats fairly funny, and a fair criticism all things considered, but the damn thing is that by being both funny anf fair I have trouble accepting that she actually wrote it and have to believe she borrowed it from somewhere else, f’rinstance Dennis Miller or something (who I still think is funny time to time). About.com’s page of her “funny” quotes, frinstance, shows that, and about a dozen instances of her wishing various politicians, journalists, and judges to die in horrible ways. And while I’m certain that her fanbase chuckles inwardly while fantasizing about the deaths of people who disagree with them, that doesn’t actually make it funny.
When did it become so damned important to “denounce bad people” that, if you didn’t denounce a bad person, you, by extension, became a bad person
Well firstly, congratulations Franky-kins, this is the second time this year that you’ve said something not wholly objectionable. Yes, it is somewhat ridiculous to have to demand a person actively denounce something as proof against them being evil themselves. For instance, in casual conversation, or even a thorough discussion of, for sake of argument, Adolf Hitler, I should not be under the personal obligation to expressly state that I think he was and is scum of the Earth in order to participate, given how much that sentiment is implied automatically.
Problem here though is that if I were to say something along the lines of “Hitler transfrmed Germany into an Economic Superpower,” or “He didn’t succumb to Churchills overbearing English charm,” or something, then it basically sounds like I’m praising Hitler, doesnt it? Don’t I owe it to myself and the discussion to clarify what my position on Hitler actually is if I’ve done that?
Also, and I don’t know that you’ve personally done this Frank but others here certainly have, would you agree that your rule applies both ways then? That its ridiculous to pressure, as some did, every Democratic candidate to denounce MoveOn.org entirely for having the gall to have a contest to which, out of a hundred or so entries that made it to the voting page, two of them compared Bush to Hitler>
Ann Coulter is disgutsing. When confronted on her drivel she can’t even remember what she wrote. I guess she just occasionally sits down and churns out a bunch of crap, adds a hate title, and then hits the airwaves trying to prostitute…er sell the book. I’ve seen her do an interview where the host called her on specific factually incorrect items from one of her books where her response was along the lines of I don’t care just buy the book.
She’s found an audience of tricks that will give her money and temporary attention.
This is typical coultergeist;
Deflect and spin, rinse and repeat.
See, Don Rickles can make insult humor work. Shit even Triumph the Insult dog can make it work. Ann cannot make it work for her. She’s not a good political analyst, she’s not a good writer, she’s not a good public speaker, and as we’ve seen, not much of a good human. So…why is she on Teevee again?
“When did it become so damned important to “denounce bad people” that, if you didn’t denounce a bad person, you, by extension, became a bad person: “You are as bad as someone you don’t hate and denounce?”
When did that happen?”
How about Ward Churchill? The right was all over him and made him to be the standard bearing for the progressives, even though most people had never heard of him before his little Eichmann quote.
And quite frankly, within context the little Eichmann quote makes sense.
“Furthermore, you certainly can’t “denounce” her for saying bad things, or stuff in bad taste, or being cold hearted, because you have ALL been guilty of that, have you not?”
Two points:
1.) She called on people to be assassinated. When have we ever done the same?
2.) We are random people on the Internet. She gets invited to CPAC to be a major speaker. She is a standard bearer for the Republican Party.
“Besides, the more important point I was making was the Ms. Edwards was slapping on liberal doses of the syrupy southern charm, so much so, that it was oozing out of the transcript.”
So Elizabeth Edwards was charming and that excuses Anne Coulter for saying her husband should be killed.
You are a fucking idiot.
People confused about how Coulter’s considered funny: once again, I remind you that “humour” to the right-wing mind basically consists of finger-pointing mockery, slander and savage insults.
I cheered for Elizabeth Edwards.
Coulter came off looking horrible, worse than she ever has, thanks to the grace, elegance, humanity, and pure class of Mrs. Edwards.
Mann Coulter still packs in halls full of pimply dysfunctional right-wing fratboys, though, eager to take her up on her obscene come-ons and look under her dress, without realizing that they probably won’t like what’s under there.
How long will we have to put up with this obscene, destructive, corrosive figure?
I have no idea.
But I will immediately change the channel, and call and write letters protesting her appearances every chance I get.
See, Freedom of Speech works both ways.
Not necessarily to defend Ann Coulter, who I think is way too over the top, but Ann Coulter said John Edwards should be killed?
Are you just going by the edited clip from the Edwards site? You’re kidding right? Have you seen what they took out of that clip?
Let’s look at the transcript, Johnny:
Apparently the Edwards campaign needed a little “we’ve been attacked” boost and, as usual, Ann Coulter has become the perfect foil. So Matthews puts her on the show with the perfect little ambush from Elizabeth Edwards. Wow- what a coincidence.
Frankly- I don’t understand why they put Coulter on T.V. so much. Oh Wait! Yes I do. Because they know she’ll say mean things so the left can get outraged and raise more money.
What else could it be? She’s not newsworthy.
Why do you guys gang up on me every time her name appears, and I don’t go in to “Stone her for a witch” mode?
First of all, her remark, “One of the planes should have crashed into the Times Building” was dark humor. I can’t imagine any conservative who didn’t chuckle, while, at the same time, not wishing that any one at the Times actually died. To the best of my knowledge, she stated that publicly later.
Second, she referred to the “Jersey Girls” (widows from 9/11) as a traveling road show, and as “media whores”, if I remember correctly. Not nice, but in her opinion, true.
I view them as the antecedents of Cindy Sheehan, using their loved ones to make political points.
Problem here though is that if I were to say something along the lines…
The problem here is that I can’t think of any of Hitler’s redeeming qualities, because to the best of my knowledge, he had none. He made a country his own, and possessed by whatever evil spirits possessed him, took that country down the road to hell.
That’s why there are only a few people in the history of the world who can be compared to him. Not Mussolini, not Ivan the Terrible, not even Vlad the Impaler.
Shall we compare Ann Coulter to Adolph Hitler? Must I lie and say that I don’t laugh at her columns? Must I say that she seems more unpleasant in “enemy territory” than “amongst (FOX) friends”?
For those of you who have yet to get the point — Ms. Edwards was playing “The Fried Green Tomatoes” role to the hilt. She’s the wife of a former Senator, not Aunt Bee.
Funny how Think Progress could post the transcript from the E.E./Coulter confrontation, but could only manage to find part of the quote from Coulter from the day before. (Oh yeah- it’s just the edited version on the Edwards website used for fundraising. Never mind.)
You see, this is how used the right are to everyone accepting that the world is exactly as they say it is despite the evidence: Marty claims one thing whilst presenting a transcript that completely proves him wrong.
“Not necessarily to defend Ann Coulter, who I think is way too over the top, but Ann Coulter said John Edwards should be killed?”
Yes. She said the same of a Supreme Court justice, Lincoln Chafee, the editors of the New York Time, everyone who works in the New York Times, and probably more.
“Are you just going by the edited clip from the Edwards site? You’re kidding right? Have you seen what they took out of that clip?”
She also claims she didn’t call Edwards a faggot. But she did. She just did it in a way where she could pretend later that she didn’t.
It’s like the Cavuto Question Mark.
If I said, “I’d call you a effing retard, but the FCC would fine me $5000.” Then I called you a fucking retard.
(By the way, Bill Maher never said he wished Cheney were killed. He merely commented on the what would happen if it did. Then again, warning about consequences is considered the same as wishing they happened, at least to the right-wingers in the media.)
The killing of Edwards she uses the same trick to avoid responsibility for her comments.
“First of all, her remark, “One of the planes should have crashed into the Times Building” was dark humor. I can’t imagine any conservative who didn’t chuckle,”
Two points:
1.) I thought that was McViegh she used in that comment.
2.) Anyone who chuckled at that has serious mental issues. There’s nothing funny there. And I don’t mean, “That’s a horrible thing to say, she’s so mean.” I mean, “There’s nothing there that resembles humor. You couldn’t dissect the statement and analyze it syntactically and define where the humor comes from.”
It’s like the scene from The Simpsons where Homer has to watch the Highway safety video of people dying in car crashes.
“He he he. It’s funny cause I don’t know him.”
“The problem here is that I can’t think of any of Hitler’s redeeming qualities, because to the best of my knowledge, he had none.”
Apparently he was a rather good painter, (but he did landscapes during a time when portraits were in vogue). Also, he grew up thinking that Jews were patriotic Germans in a time when they were being blamed for Germany’s lose in WWI. It wasn’t until he fell in with a fundamentalist Christian group in Vienna that he changed his mind.
“He made a country his own, and possessed by whatever evil spirits possessed him, took that country down the road to hell.”
I hope the demon part was a metaphor.
“For those of you who have yet to get the point”
… You still don’t have a point, Frank. You are arguing that Elizabeth Edwards has to take some responsibility for Anne Coulture using her dead son to make cheap political points.
“People confused about how Coulter’s considered funny: once again, I remind you that “humour” to the right-wing mind basically consists of finger-pointing mockery, slander and savage insults.”
It’s just like the Homer Simpson quote I provided for Frank.
Normal people can find the Three Stooges funny, cause they know no one is really being hurt. For conservatives, seeing blood would only make it funnier.
Hitler wasn’t a terribly good painter. He was a decent illustrator, in that he could depict things quite well, but he had no real artistic mind.
Colmes: “Oh, so only republicans can talk in churches?”
Coulter: “No, but I do think someone named B. Hussein Obama should avoid using hijack and religion in the same sentence.“
HAW!!! OMG, it is teh funny!
That was, what, 2 days ago? Does she have a new book coming out? She seems to only surface if she has something to pimp.
it was at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2002 that she famously claimed:
“We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too.”
Oh, stop, my sides!!! always with the jokes…
My favorite: You couldn’t dissect the statement and analyze it syntactically and define where the humor comes from
Well, I’m not Data or Tuvok. I thought it was funny, geek.
He’s got this Star Trek meme going now. I think he’s just got the idea of Star Trek in his head and doesn’t know what else to do with it. Just don’t call attention to it, you’ll set him off again.
Uh- Nimrod, perhaps you should pretend to try and understand my point in this instance. Coulter clearly wasn’t calling for the death of John Edwards. She used sarcasm to make the point that Maher’s endorsement of Cheney’s death, which didn’t get so much attention, would have been the better route to take in reference to Edwards. In other words, it’s easier to get away with calling for someone’s death than using the word “faggot.”
C’mon. You guys are usually so good with nuance when it comes you the left’s outrageous statements.
And you wonder why I say the left is humorless. No grasp of sarcasm, dark humor, irony, understatement.
Tell me who you think is funny, in any way, I’d love to hear it.
He grew up thinking that Jews were patriotic Germans in a time when they were being blamed for Germany’s lose in WWI. It wasn’t until he fell in with a fundamentalist Christian group in Vienna that he changed his mind.
Is this your source for that?
He grew up thinking that Jews were patriotic Germans in a time when they were being blamed for Germany’s lose in WWI.
You mean he was growing up while he was recovering from wounds by mustard gas, which blinded him in World War I, and from which he was recovering when Germany surrendered?
Did he join the Army as a baby?
Even though he made a sharp turn to the right, Phil Hendrie’s funny.
Stephanie Miller is funny.
The writers of MST3K are funny.
In contrast, the writers of Gaggle and The Leftersons are most likely not funny.
I don’t know who Phil Hendrie is — doesn’t mean he’s not funny.
Stephani Miller was very funny on “I’ve Got a Secret”. She’s on Air America, right?
MST3K was funny.
Gaggle isn’t too good. I don’t know the leftersons,But I like Day by Day, by Chris Muir
Among comedians, I like Louis C.K.
“Hitler wasn’t a terribly good painter. He was a decent illustrator, in that he could depict things quite well, but he had no real artistic mind.”
That’s a fine distinction, but a good point.
“My favorite: You couldn’t dissect the statement and analyze it syntactically and define where the humor comes from”
“Well, I’m not Data or Tuvok. I thought it was funny, geek.”
Why did you link to pictures of those two? You think I don’t know who they are?
(By the way, the fact that you know who they are, enough to make the connection, makes you a geek too.)
“She used sarcasm to make the point that Maher’s endorsement of Cheney’s death, which didn’t get so much attention,”
Two points:
1.) You might have been able to make that claim, if she hadn’t called for the deaths of so many other people.
2.) Bill Maher never endorsed the death of Dick Cheney.
“Is this your source for that?”
Nope.
“You mean he was growing up while he was recovering from wounds by mustard gas,”
Well, my sentence was certainly inarticulate. My point was, he wasn’t anti-semetic when he was younger. AND… He didn’t blame the Jews for Germany’s lose in WWI.
“Among comedians, I like Louis C.K.”
Goddamnit, Frank. You know I break out in hives when we agree on something.
(His interviews on The Daily Show are classic. However, he should never appear naked on TV.)
So there point of humor which many people of many political beliefs can find funny. Imagine that.
Pardon that last terribly constructed sentence. “So there are points of humor that many people…”
That’s what happens when you translate what you want to say into Greek and then back to English.
Watch it, Sundown. Next thing, Strowbridge will say he was lying.
Louis was on Conan the other day. He was awesome.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KNq_OjkKfO0
“Louis was on Conan the other day. He was awesome.”
That was hilarious. Got that DVD ordered, but it hasn’t arrived yet.
TA - DA!
What? Coulter was bound to whine something out about her humiliation.
Ta-da what?
Ta-da what?
I think Frankie’s proud of himself because he learned how to link to stuff using HTML script. Good for you, Frank.
And I’m very disturbed that your calling me “Frankie” again.
It shows me that with sufficient study, and years of hard work, you might some day, be smart enough to play checkers with a moron, and not get beat too bad.
“TA - DA what?”
Neither one of you cretins read the fucking thing, so you have no idea what it says, or why it matters.
If the two of you took all your brains, and put them in a shoe box, it would sound like a BB rolling around a boxcar.
“And I’m very disturbed that your calling me “Frankie” again.”
So says the man who calls me Clem. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Me: “TA - DA what?”
Frank: “Neither one of you cretins read the fucking thing,”
I read it. And again I repeat, “TA - DA what?”
“And I’m very disturbed that your calling me “Frankie” again.”
I was being sarcastic, Clem.
Your cluelessness knows no bounds.
You’re losing a lot a ground here, Clem.
Perhaps you’re not feeling as confident as you once did. Behaving like a normal human being, instead of an abusive son of a bitch, would go a long way towards easing up your life.
But MLK, Jr. once said “It is up to the oppressed to forgive the oppressor,” so I can keep this up forever. You are scum, and unless you change, you will always be scum.
It is you who are the victim — of yourself.
And I’m very disturbed that your calling me “Frankie” again.
What, pray tell, makes my calling you “Frankie” so much worse than calling C.S. “Clem”?
It shows me that with sufficient study, and years of hard work, you might some day, be smart enough to play checkers with a moron, and not get beat too bad.
Were you up all night thinking that one up?
So says the man who calls me Clem. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Grr…
“It is you who are the victim — of yourself.”
… and still no comment on what’s so Ta-da.
I’m stumped. And curious.
Of course, odds are Frank has nothing and he’s stringing up along.
On a side note, Frank, I like my life.
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