No it wasn’t, Frank. It was a pathetic attack in hopes of getting into another flamewar to feed you psychological need for abuse.

Join a S&M club and get it out of your system.

I got your attack right here:

Clem, Shut The Fuck Up! You’re boring me to tears…

You hope I die because you’re an arrogant, phony, self – absorbed prick.

I hope you live to be 100 years old and then some, because you’re an arrogant, phony, self – absorbed prick. I hope you remain as ignorant of your defects at the age of 100, as you are today.

You will never be happy — that’s my prediction, not my wish, Clem.

If you had any redeeming qualities, it would be sad.

As it is, I just have to wait till the day your psychological defenses crumble and you finally put a bullet in your brain.

If you got it wrong, it was because you expect on;y eeeeevil from Republicans. Then you act like they did something wrong when they don’t meet your expectations.

Jeff Foxworthy didn’t have thing number 1 to do with this.

If I read it wrong, you read it wrong. Stop blaming other people for your mistakes.

Jeff Foxworthy recently hosted an award show where he gave a rant about why he likes country music. Among the things he said was, “Fans of country music love their families.” The obvious implication is that people who don’t love country music, don’t love their families.

We live in a world where the Republicans and their cronies in the media have been using that tactic for a decade or so to attack the left. Because of this, it is not surprising that we’ve become sensitive to these kinds of underhanded attacks.

What you wrote could be interpretted either way, but I apologize if I got it wrong.

I would encourage you to go back and read my post. No where did I say that our military members are more American, or more patriotic, than anyone else. Nor did I say that back in the States people would laugh at the National Anthem. Instead, I said that after one or two false starts people would probably laugh about it (the experience) and take their seats. I stand by that assertion.

The post was not meant to degrade anyone, but to lift up the discipline of the folks over here doing a very difficult job.

Thank you for showing the respect you do when the anthem is played.

I would encourage you all to take a look at the post again and see it for what it is – not inferring something that is not implied.

Problem is, with Neo-Con’s running the show… and Corporatists ruining the Country… there becomes less and less to “respect” about our grand old flag when the policies behind this corrupt cabal have NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOCRACY and EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PROFIT AND POWER.

“We the people” must continue to press our Congress-critters to bring back the rule of law – impeach and clean up this mess… withoug that, we will never regain our Democracy and our Honor – those ideals on which this flag stands.

“We must be the change we seek.” Ghandi

TALK to family, friends, neighbors… TALK to Congress.

You can be on the frontlines of change.

um, he also felt compelled to add: “Of course, that is, if they had stood for the National Anthem in the first place.”

The assumption is that most civilian 18-22 year olds have little respect for the anthem to begin with. Talk about a strawman argument.

I would agree with the Chaplain. There would be a difference. I notice that you take Lysander to task over the fact that you didn’t mention Democrat/Republican/Liberal/Conservative in your post. But, you also made a stellar jump in your assessment of what the Chaplain said. He didn’t say military people were more “American”. He noted that the Soldiers stood silently after the music unexpectedly stopped. He said if this had been civilians they would have started cracking up and snickering or joking around. I think that would have happened also. Military people are not more American, however they are more DISCIPLINED. Especially in the younger ages where people tend to be more wild. America is a great place, and people have a lot. Therefore, the first time people have a chance to see what hardship, neglect, and struggle is about is when they go into the military. I would daresay that 18-22 year olds in the military are more “patriotic” by definition than civilians simply because there is a certain level of indoctrination that goes on when you go to Initial Entry Training. I am not sure why it bothered you that he asked the question about a “difference”. Both parties seem to think that they both have a true understanding and concern for American service members, but those that have never served do not, in my opinion. In my opinion, “You had to be there….”

I would agree with the Chaplain. There would be a difference. I notice that you take Lysander to task over the fact that you didn’t mention Democrat/Republican/Liberal/Conservative in your post. But, you also made a stellar jump in your assessment of what the Chaplain said. He didn’t say military people were more “American”. He noted that the Soldiers stood silently after the music unexpectedly stopped. He said if this had been civilians they would have started cracking up and snickering or joking around. I think that would have happened also. Military people are not more American, however they are more DISCIPLINED. Especially in the younger ages where people tend to be more wild. America is a great place, and people have a lot. Therefore, the first time people have a chance to see what hardship, neglect, and struggle is about is when they go into the military. I would daresay that 18-22 year olds in the military are more “patriotic” by definition than civilians simply because there is a certain level of indoctrination that goes on when you go to Initial Entry Training. I am not sure why it bothered you that he asked the question about a “difference”. Both parties seem to think that they both have a true understanding and concern for American service members, but those that have never served do not, in my opinion. In my opinion, “You had to be there….”

At least you guys have a decent anthem. We’ve got “God Save The Queen”. I don’t know why you guys even used the tune of that for “My Country ‘Tis of Thee”.

Chaplain Jim Higgins may be on his second or third tour and is probably on an overextended deployment. Sounds like he (as many others) requires some stateside R&R with some MLB supplied tickets (at least MLB used to have a program for comps to active military) to observe how US citizens, regardless of military or civilian, respect the National Anthem.

Maybe the people at your son’s graduation are total asses, but I’ve not seen that kind of behavior in my supposed blue state enclaves.

For the record, the national anthem is only funny at sporting events when Carl Lewis can’t sing “and the rockets red glare” in the correct octave, or when Maurice Cheeks did an impromptu duet with that poor girl who forgot the words.