Comments on: Bush Drinky Drinky? http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:42:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: bootspur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70493 bootspur Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:59:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70493 There is a real GOOD chance that .05% alcohol can get someone clobbering drunk especially if there is just ONE "Dubya" brain cell flying around in search of a mate thinking that an alcohol cell LOOKIN' PRETTY GOOD! There is a real GOOD chance that .05% alcohol can get someone clobbering drunk especially if there is just ONE “Dubya” brain cell flying around in search of a mate thinking that an alcohol cell LOOKIN’ PRETTY GOOD!

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70492 Quaker in a Basement Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:44:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70492 <em>If he is a former alcoholic,</em> ...he would be the first. There's no such thing as a "former" alcoholic. Either you aren't or you are, and if you are, you're either in recovery or you're not. Anyway, you miss my point, CS. Avarosis is writing with the foregone conclusions that a) Mr. Bush is alcoholic and b) he's in recovery. That would be the only set of circumstances under which the discussion of whether a 0.5% alcohol beer is "permitted." If he is a former alcoholic,

…he would be the first. There’s no such thing as a “former” alcoholic. Either you aren’t or you are, and if you are, you’re either in recovery or you’re not.

Anyway, you miss my point, CS. Avarosis is writing with the foregone conclusions that a) Mr. Bush is alcoholic and b) he’s in recovery. That would be the only set of circumstances under which the discussion of whether a 0.5% alcohol beer is “permitted.”

]]> By: Wellstone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70491 Wellstone Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:50:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70491 "...In 1999, responding to questions about his use of drugs and alcohol, George Bush told the Washington Post, "Well, I don't think I had an addiction. You know it's hard for me to say. I've had friends who were, you know, very addicted...and they required hitting bottom [to start] going to A.A. I don't think that was my case..." He's admitting he has a drinking problem, but won't cop to the severity of it. He was arrested and convicted of DUI in 1976, and maybe again after, but the records were allegedly scrubbed when he had his drivers' license reissued with a new nuumber while he was GOv in Texas. I also know he's said publicly that since he became a born-again Christian at 40, he's left the bottle far behind. But there have been several reports in the tabloids that Laura Bush left the White House last year to stay in the Mayflower for a week or so because of his bouts with drinking again. Most Doctors will tell you Alcoholism is a disease, not a lifestyle choice, and you NEVER leave the bottle far behind. Like smoking cigarettes or any other addictive behavior, including the unhealthy addiction to power, it is a part of your life forever. “…In 1999, responding to questions about his use of drugs and alcohol, George Bush told the Washington Post, “Well, I don’t think I had an addiction. You know it’s hard for me to say. I’ve had friends who were, you know, very addicted…and they required hitting bottom [to start] going to A.A. I don’t think that was my case…”

He’s admitting he has a drinking problem, but won’t cop to the severity of it. He was arrested and convicted of DUI in 1976, and maybe again after, but the records were allegedly scrubbed when he had his drivers’ license reissued with a new nuumber while he was GOv in Texas.

I also know he’s said publicly that since he became a born-again Christian at 40, he’s left the bottle far behind. But there have been several reports in the tabloids that Laura Bush left the White House last year to stay in the Mayflower for a week or so because of his bouts with drinking again.

Most Doctors will tell you Alcoholism is a disease, not a lifestyle choice, and you NEVER leave the bottle far behind.

Like smoking cigarettes or any other addictive behavior, including the unhealthy addiction to power, it is a part of your life forever.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70490 C.S.Strowbridge Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:35:49 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70490 "0.5% alcohol is not going to get anybody drunk." Yes, but it could cause him to fall off the wagon completely. "All of his carrying on about what alcoholics are permitted to drink or not applies only to those who are in treatment." No. No, that's not how it works. AA doesn't decide what is and is not right for a recovering alcholic to have, human biology does. Having 0.5% alcohol can cause an alcoholic to fall off the wagon, whether or not they are in treatment. If he is a former alcoholic, and I've seen enough evidence to suggest he is, then this could be a major story if it leads to further abuse. “0.5% alcohol is not going to get anybody drunk.”

Yes, but it could cause him to fall off the wagon completely.

“All of his carrying on about what alcoholics are permitted to drink or not applies only to those who are in treatment.”

No. No, that’s not how it works. AA doesn’t decide what is and is not right for a recovering alcholic to have, human biology does. Having 0.5% alcohol can cause an alcoholic to fall off the wagon, whether or not they are in treatment.

If he is a former alcoholic, and I’ve seen enough evidence to suggest he is, then this could be a major story if it leads to further abuse.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70489 Quaker in a Basement Sat, 09 Jun 2007 04:37:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70489 Of course, Mr. Avarosis' article is filled with all kinds of speculation. Mr. Bush has never admitted to being an alcoholic--to my knowledge, anyway--or been diagnosed as such by a doctor, or attended any AA meetings. If Mr. Bush is NOT an alcoholic, then taking a sip of not-quite-real-beer is an absolute non-event. If Mr. Bush is an <em>undiagnosed</em> alcoholic, then Mr. Avarosis' is MSU. All of his carrying on about what alcoholics are permitted to drink or not applies only to those who are in treatment. This story is crap. Of course, Mr. Avarosis’ article is filled with all kinds of speculation.

Mr. Bush has never admitted to being an alcoholic–to my knowledge, anyway–or been diagnosed as such by a doctor, or attended any AA meetings.

If Mr. Bush is NOT an alcoholic, then taking a sip of not-quite-real-beer is an absolute non-event. If Mr. Bush is an undiagnosed alcoholic, then Mr. Avarosis’ is MSU. All of his carrying on about what alcoholics are permitted to drink or not applies only to those who are in treatment.

This story is crap.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70488 Nimrod Gently Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:51:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70488 He's not going to turn "back" into an alcoholic. He never stopped being an alcoholic. 0.5% proof is still more alcohol than an alcoholic should be drinking, ie any. He’s not going to turn “back” into an alcoholic. He never stopped being an alcoholic.

0.5% proof is still more alcohol than an alcoholic should be drinking, ie any.

]]> By: mwg http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70487 mwg Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:34:54 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70487 0.5% alcohol is not going to get anybody drunk. I don't care if that's what he's drinking. Nor is a near beer with dinner going to turn him back into an alcoholic. I'm much more worried about what he drinks behind closed doors. 0.5% alcohol is not going to get anybody drunk. I don’t care if that’s what he’s drinking. Nor is a near beer with dinner going to turn him back into an alcoholic. I’m much more worried about what he drinks behind closed doors.

]]> By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70486 SpiderJ Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:28:48 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70486 Knock it off, fellas, it's not like he got a blowjob or anything. Yeesh. Knock it off, fellas, it’s not like he got a blowjob or anything. Yeesh.

]]> By: Wilbur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70485 Wilbur Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:14:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70485 Who gives a fig? He couldn't be any worse at his job if he was drunk off his ass 24/7. In fact, he might even do better. Who gives a fig? He couldn’t be any worse at his job if he was drunk off his ass 24/7. In fact, he might even do better.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/08/bush-drinky-drinky/#comment-70484 Nimrod Gently Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:34:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=5998#comment-70484 Holy shit I hope not. It does appear to be a non-alcoholic beer, but I still can't figure out if that's just packaging foofaraw. Is Buckler actually alcohol-free, or is it just low enough to get away with saying "non-alcoholic" on the bottle? He still probably shouldn't be doing it, being an alcoholic and all. Cue the trolls running around screeching "LEAVE HIM ALONE HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS PRIVACY" or words to that effect. Holy shit I hope not.

It does appear to be a non-alcoholic beer, but I still can’t figure out if that’s just packaging foofaraw. Is Buckler actually alcohol-free, or is it just low enough to get away with saying “non-alcoholic” on the bottle?

He still probably shouldn’t be doing it, being an alcoholic and all.

Cue the trolls running around screeching “LEAVE HIM ALONE HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS PRIVACY” or words to that effect.

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