The Parent’s Television Council, a right wing organization set up by Brent Bozell (of Media Research Center) to get a small minority of righties say-so over what’s allowed on tv sent an email out Tuesday complaining about the recent ruling turning back FCC fines over cursing on broadcast tv. What I noticed was the graphic accompanying PTC’s email.
Apparently something “objectionable” is on the tv and the kid is covering his eyes. And the dad? The dad is HOLDING A REMOTE and LEANING IN TO GET A CLOSER LOOK. He could quit being a perv in front of his kid and change the channel…
But somehow this is a job for government censors.
My grandparents thought tv was immoral when I was growing up.
So, not being stupid, they didn’t have one.
Duh.
My parents did have a tv. They decided what we watched. The didn’t need a panty sniffer like Brent Bozo telling them what to watch.
Bozell may be well – intentioned but wrong, but the guy in the graphic is shocked at what he is seeing, not “bent over trying to get a better look.”
It was always my experience that if my children didn’t know what they were looking at — whether it was Howard Stern’s cheeks, or Janet Jackson’s breast — it didn’t bother them much.
As I said, Bozell is well – intentioned but wrong. But, sheesh, what liberal isn’t?
I agree with Frank, Oliver. You’re interpretation of the graphic is weird to say the least. The guy has a, “I can’t believe they’re showing that on television” look on his face.
That being said, I don’t agree with the PTC. I am a big advocate of DLI-TIO. “Don’t like it? Turn it off.”
And quite frankly, censorship “FOR THE CHILDREN!!!” is a pathetic position that is shared pretty equally on both sides of the aisle.
While I don’t think the guy’s leaning in to get a better look, I do think his expression is kinda odd. Its like “Wow, your mother never did THAT to me…”
I do find it ironic that Bozell is a conservative that argues against big government programs like Medicare and social security, yet wants governmentt to tell us what we can and can’t watch.
The point is, he’s got a remote in his hand and yet he somehow thinks that without the PTC he’s powerless in the face of what is in all probability someone saying “arse”. On cable.
Hang about, did Frank just say Brent Bozell was a liberal?
Frank disagrees with him and finds Bozell’s position idiotic. Which he should, because it is.
But rather than admit a conservative could be idiotic, he calls him a liberal. The saga continues.
When I go on long drives, I’ll put on stations I disagree with just to get a feel for what people are saying.
The weirdest thing to me is that the fundie, right-wing stations had ads every two minutes for porn blockers. They were clearly aimed at adult men, but they were never just to protect the kids, or even keep the wife in line. They always include “and to protect your own heart” or some similar phrase.
What kind of grown man, if he disapproves of porn, can’t just not look at porn? I don’t approve of porn. I don’t go look at it. And no matter what these guys are telling their wives, it does not regularly pop up on the screen if you don’t visit porn sites.
The guy in the picture reminds me of Vince Vaughn in Old School where he tells the kid to cover his ears before he lets go with profanity.
Regardless of whether he’s shocked or leering (and I think he’s more the former than the latter), what kind of parent refuses to check the programming before turning it on?
How will you get your kids to do their homework if you don’t do the same?
Frank disagrees with him and finds Bozell’s position idiotic. Which he should, because it is.
But…
So close, yet so far. All I was saying was that liberals are well – intentioned, but wrong all the time. Why get all excited over Bozell?
Sometimes it’s hard to tell who’s more preoccupied with sex: Loopy right wingers that think that the first time a teenager sees a bare breast, he’s heading for a whorehouse; or Loopy liberals who interpret Freud to mean that teens should celebrate their entry into puberty at Hooters.
BTW, KEWL looking banner!
Me likee!
See, the former I’ve seen and heard for myself, but not the latter. And that’s odd. You’d think I’d hear the Hooters thing all the time, since I’m one o’dose Libruls hanging out in the Librul club sipping chianti or whatever it is we do.
Or wait, maybe you pulled it out of the usual place again.
Bozell is well – intentioned but wrong. But, sheesh, what liberal isn’t?
If you can’t see how this consecutive pairing of sentences doesn’t make it sound like you called Bozell a liberal…well, never mind.
And no matter what these guys are telling their wives, it does not regularly pop up on the screen if you don’t visit porn sites.
That’s not necessarily true. You can go to what appears to be an innocuous site and a javascript program can be installed on your PC that can easily set off what is known as a ‘porn storm.’ There’s been a big story about a teacher who fell victim to one in the classroom and faced jail time. She was just granted a new trial. The case is a joke. You can start here and do some searching on it.
Spider, I think a lot of parents have had a ‘Whoa!’ moment with the television while their kids were watching. It’s no big deal and you work it out. Just saying is all.
True. Although I will say that I experience an awful lot of parents who bring their kids to live theater and then find themselves shocked to discover the language that occurs in the Pulitzer Prize-winning American play Glengarry Glen Ross. I’m sure these are the same parents who write angry letters to the network complaining about their children watching television shows that weren’t created with a child audience in mind.
What kind of grown man, if he disapproves of porn, can’t just not look at porn?
A man who is addicted to porn, that’s who… Where have you been?
“All I was saying was that liberals are well – intentioned, but wrong all the time.”
A little cause and effect for you, Frank. You act like an asshole, you get called an asshole.
Fucking asshole.
And yes, this is your fault.
Liberals were right about practically everything in Iraq. Liberals are right about Global Warming. Liberals are right about almost everything where liberals and conservatives disagree. But you keep believing, and spreading the lies.
You don’t need an excuse to call me an asshole, remember? It’s your right.
{Aside to CSS: “It’s my right” ranks with “I can if I want to”, and “You can’t tell me what to do; you’re not my Mommy” for justifications for one’s behavior. Let me know when you hit puberty, shithead.)
The state of television is a domestic issue. It is common parlance amongst conservatives, in the area of domestic policy to say that liberals are “Well – intentioned, but wrong”. It is a common American usage.
Because you come from Canada, aside from the fact that you regularly sodomize farm animals, you may not be familiar with all of our political idioms.
In the interest of maintaining good Canadian – American relations — after all, some one has to buy the shit we were going to throw away — I hope this comment was helpful to you.
Frank, I thought I was the only “shithead” on this blog… oh, the memories…
Oh, and thanks for reaffirming your ignorance when it comes to liberals and their beliefs. Living in L.A. on a university campus, I’m fairly surrounded by liberals, you see… and I can’t say that I know any that a) interpret Freud’s work for any practical application in their daily lives, or b) feel strongly about having 12-year-olds go to Hooters to celebrate their newfound pubic hair. Thanks for your idiocy, Frank, you’re a detriment to your cause, and therefore an unlikely ally to ours.
As for the topic at hand, Bozell is an idiot.
mambochicken: First of all, you’ll never catch me saying you’re unique. There are plenty of shitheads out there.
Let me do you a favor. Head over to the Campus Bookstore, and look for Humor, Sense of it shouldn’t be too expensive. Your Stafford Loan will cover it.
Then you can go to the Student Infirmary and get the steel rod removed from your ass.
NEVER QUESTION ME
The fundamental problem with Frank is that he believes this is Frank DeSalle’s comment blog hosted by Oliver Willis.
The fundamental problem here is that I made a comment, and most of you thought it was more important to say something about me than it was to say something about either the topic or my comment.
I have never used the request, “Please tell me what you think” in any of my comments.
Example: Where did this thread go awry?
I’d vote on Jun 6, 2007 4:37:42 PM
How about you?
My apologies, Frank. I didn’t recognize that you were joking because it wasn’t funny. My bad.
My vote for when this thread went awry is when you entered into it, Frank. Wait… no… if you never found Oliver’s blog, you never would have posted to this thread… so my vote’s when you discovered this blog. Then again, if you were never born, then you wouldn’t have found the blog… so my absolutest, most finalist vote for when this thread went awry is when your dad’s condom broke some 60+ years ago. Then again, if your parents never met…
mambochicken:Can’t anybody on this blog who doesn’t have a sense of humor ever come up with something besides “I didn’t laugh because it wasn’t funny”?
Jeebus – no sense of humor and unoriginal, too.
Funny how that “alternate universe” stuff works: If my condom hadn’t broken, you wouldn’t have been born*, and this whole thing wouldn’t even bother you.
And there would be thousands less unmolested mice in California.
* I actually hesitated to write this, but I got over it, after I thought all of your other posts.
Well, that ends this thread, eh, CSS?
Are you proud?
The fundamental problem with Frank is that he believes this is Frank DeSalle’s comment blog hosted by Oliver Willis.
Yep.
“You don’t need an excuse to call me an asshole, remember? It’s your right.”
Don’t need one, but you always seem to give one.
“Let me know when you hit puberty, shithead.”
Let me know when you grow up. Being old doesn’t mean you are wise.
“The state of television is a domestic issue. It is common parlance amongst conservatives, in the area of domestic policy to say that liberals are “Well – intentioned, but wrong”. It is a common American usage.”
Yeah, people like you tend to lie, a lot. Who could have guessed that.
“Because you come from Canada, aside from the fact that you regularly sodomize farm animals, you may not be familiar with all of our political idioms.”
I’m probably more familiar with your politics than the average American.
“In the interest of maintaining good Canadian – American relations — after all, some one has to buy the shit we were going to throw away — I hope this comment was helpful to you.”
It was helpful. It helped kill the last sense of sympathy I have for you. You could commit suicide tomorrow and not only would I not feel an ounce of saddness, I would literally want to piss on your grave.
Fuck that, I’d dig you up and piss on your body.
The point is, he’s got a remote in his hand and yet he somehow thinks that without the PTC he’s powerless in the face of what is in all probability someone saying “arse”. On cable.
Speaking of which. If it’s about profanity, why is the kid covering his eyes? Shouldn’t he be covering his ears, or do they have closed captioning on?
Because you come from Canada, aside from the fact that you regularly sodomize farm animals, you may not be familiar with all of our political idioms.
… … …
Get help. NOW.
Funny how that “alternate universe” stuff works: If my condom hadn’t broken, you wouldn’t have been born*, and this whole thing wouldn’t even bother you.
You’re mambochicken’s father?
And there would be thousands less unmolested mice in California.
I mean it, GET HELP NOW. You’ve really gone off the deep end lately, haven’t you? If you need spiritual assistance, Haruhi will always be there to guide your path.
All I can say is that this guy is like the Jack Thompson of television. I hope his career ends up the same way too.
The fundamental problem with Frank is that he believes this is Frank DeSalle’s comment blog hosted by Oliver Willis.
Yep.
Good bye, Oliver
“Funny how that “alternate universe” stuff works: If my condom hadn’t broken, you wouldn’t have been born*, and this whole thing wouldn’t even bother you.
You’re mambochicken’s father?”
Yep, Zython, I didn’t understand that either.
Frank, don’t let the door hit you in your idiotic ass on your way out.
fd10801 | Jun 7, 2007 5:37:30 AM
“The fundamental problem with Frank is that he believes this is Frank DeSalle’s comment blog hosted by Oliver Willis.
Yep.
Good bye, Oliver”
Yeah right! Until the next derailable thread, Frank! Can you HEAR the “poor, Poor, POOR me” echoing through DiSalle’s mind?
Squirrel, It is for the best. There has GOT to be something else in the man’s life.
Are you kidding? Lysander Spooner III will rise from the ashes! LoL!
“Squirrel, It is for the best. There has GOT to be something else in the man’s life.”
I hope so, but I doubt it. He spends more time on this blog that OW does. I spend a lot of time here, but nothing compared to him and I have an excuse, I telecommute to work. (If my boss asks, I’m currently doing research on FF:RotSS. Thanks.)