Kevorkian Out
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I still don’t get why Jack Kevorkian was even in prison in the first place. If someone wants to die, then that’s their choice. I don’t get why the nanny state has to be involved.
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Don’t disagree with you, Ollie, but he’s still a nutter. Have you seen his paintings? (I can find none on the Great Google.)
The state has to be involved, I guess, because a law allowing Euthenasia would be terribly hard to draw up and enforce without people exploiting it.
Also JESUS GOD CHRIST HEAVEN BIBLE CHRIST JESUS JESUS.
Jesus suffered a terrible death because God wanted him to.
I don’t recall God demanding the same of the rest of us.
SpiderJ: The theology of death and suicide revolves around faith, hope and despair,not the ease of one’s final hours.
Using your logic, Kevorkian is the “pimp” or “peddler” of death.
“Got death here!” “Good death!”
Shorter Frank?: Suck it up, ya baby.
Longer Duros: I really don’t know what Frank means, and “The Code” prevents me from engaging him in a normal discussion.
Frank – I do need a little more than a vague mention of “the theology of death and suicide.”
Cite me the scripture that makes it clear that God’s boundless love and compassion doesn’t extend to the suffering of the terminally ill.
I could ask you, SpiderJ, where you get the idea in scripture that God doesn’t want us to suffer in life, or as we near our death, but my asking you for evidence isn’t allowed by “The Code”, right?
So in reference to suicide and assisted suicide.
In reference to the theology of suffering.
In reference to Euthanasia and the Catholic Church (and more).
Spider J?
?
Maybe Spider J doesn’t understand what you’re talking about.
Actually, maybe SpiderJ had better things to do on a Saturday than wait around for Frank’s reply. But I did come back, eventually. No fear.
Thank you for your links. They offered one interesting interpretation of scripture, an academic paper, and a citing of Catholic Church doctrine–the latter two of which do not, per se, tell me what God has to say on the subject but which were good to read regardless.
I see now better where you are coming from, but still cannot understand how a kind and loving God could demand that those nearing the end of their material lives must be made to suffer. My faith in God cannot reconcile that.
And I have no idea what “Code” you’re referring to.
I think it’s the Code where he’s constantly victimised by everyone else on the blog.
You “still cannot understand how a kind and loving God could demand that those nearing the end of their material lives must be made to suffer” for three reasons:
1) Many people die without pain or suffering.
2) God does not “demand” either pain or suffering. He allows it.
3) The pain that a person may feel near the end of their life has a purpose. It is no more or less valuable than the pain we feel when we break a leg, lose a child, or get a divorce. It is a part of life. Suffering has to do with how we feel about it.
Suicide is not dealing with the pain of life or imminent death. It is escaping that pain. Since it was allowed by God, it is not your decision (to escape it) to make.
“The Code” includes: Lefties may make assertions without proof, and then when righties express disbelief, they must provide proof.
When righties make assertions, they must provide proof upon demand by lefties.
See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kevorkian/aboutk/art/“ rel=”nofollow”>Kevorkian’s art work here
See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kevorkian/aboutk/art/“ rel=”nofollow”>Kevorkian’s art work here
Yeah, it’s just a paranoid strawman theory that exists solely in Frank’s head.
What a pantload of feeble reasoning. Did not your ‘god’ call for the death of others? Did not your follower’s of god cause the deaths of millions in many cases by the most horrific means imaginable to man? Yes, they did. There is no morality in your god or your religion. Every human should have control of his or her life and death, not the state, not your phony god, not your nihilistic religion.
Mike: When you can create yourself without parents, and take yourself out of life at will, you can have control of your life and death.
Incidentally, there is really no reason for your tone. It doesn’t serve you or your cause well, and it doesn’t impress me in the least.
And you are free to believe it or not.
I have the impression that in some cases, he was exploiting mentally disturbed, suicidal persons for his “cause.” That is more that enough reason for the “nanny state” to get involved in my book.
Becky, while I deplore Kevorkian’s actions, and I can’t dispute your facts, I must point out that it could be argued that people faced with chronic illness (victims of multiple sclerosis were his “target demographic”), could easily be viewed as mentally ill, with respect to their hope – or lack of same – for the future.
However, the government, even down to the local level, has taken it upon itself to “protect” the mentally ill — even from themselves.
you’re kind of missing the point oliver. yeah if someone wants to die it their business. someone killing or assisting in the killing of another person is called murder. god forbid the government regulate that.