What is the deal with “Still Asian and regretting every minute of it.”? I didn’t get that…

I didn’t fully answer fd10801′s point about those who haven’t heard the gospel. Sadly we must accept that they are lost, otherwise Jesus’ command to preach the gospel so people can be saved doesn’t make sense. Despite this, as Tim correctly pointed out, the judge of the earth WILL do right, so if God decides someone deserves to be saved that the church hasn’t reached, he is omnipotent enough to find another way to reach them. Of course, nobody actually DESERVES to be saved, that’s the whole point. We have all inherited Adam and Eve’s original sin, and confirmed it by wanting to run our lives our own way and without God.

I will just finish by pointing out that nobody reading this blog is in the position of not having heard, so what are YOU going to do about it for yourself? Thanks for reading.

A few points (from a student of religious studies who, as it happens, is also a liberal Christian):

Peter is spot on about the Bible and salvation – where hell gets a mention, the idea is that absolutely anyone will be saved if they accept Christ, and absolutely anyone will not be saved if they don’t. That message is no more anti-Jew than it is anti-anyone else. Jesus was a Jew, Paul, Peter, etc etc. Some Christians are anti-Semitic (if that’s not a contradiction in terms), but that doctrine isn’t.

On the other hand, lots of Christians argue that hell is a late idea, not mentioned in the Old Testament (ie, for Jews, the Hebrew Bible) and that it is immoral to imagine a loving God creating such a place. These Christians typically argue that everyone gets to be with God in Heaven. This isn’t an issue on which there is any one universally-held ‘Christian’ viewpoint.

Plenty of Christians fall back on the question Abraham asks in Genesis – ‘Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?’ – and trust God not to be an asshole.

As for anime-religions: if you take your religion seriously, then I will too. I could mock you for being, like, totally stoopid, but that would just be a lazy way to avoid actually trying to understand you. The same goes for any other religious group – you can’t understand something unless you take it seriously, and mocking what you don’t understand is pretty low. I’ll probably still disagree, but if so I’ll disagree with actual reasons and from a starting point of genuine respect (unlike the rather shit video that started this whole thread).

Apologies for interrupting your catfight – I’ll go back to teaching grannies to suck eggs and let y’all get on with it.

You: “Touchy, aren’t we?”

You’re calling me touchy. Wow, that’s a new level of hypocrisy, even for you.

You: “I’ll reply to as much or as little of your wan posts as I choose — just as you do.”

And I’ll call you a fucking asshole whenever you act like one.

And I do respond to nearly everything, when I don’t it is usually because of repetition.

You, on the other hand, make a point and ignore the counter point, only to make the same point sometime in the future and act as if it has never been challenged.

Peter: “The Bible’s positon is that EVERYBODY … will be going to hell without Christ”

The Fucking Asshole: “I sincerely doubt that you believe that, or that you know of a fundamentalist sect that believes that, or that you can find a reference to that effect.”

THIS IS WHAT IS SAYS IN THE FUCKING BIBLE, YOU PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN LOSER!

Here, read this:

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html

There are plenty of bible quotes there to back it up.

Now, I don’t know how many people believe this, or who they are, but it defies simple justice to punish people for both evil and good intentions; i.e., when people consider doing evil, they have sinned in thought, but when they act in goodness, their intentions don’t count, because they have no knowledge of the existence of Christ.

I was taught that “blaspheming the Holy Spirit” was rejection of the offer of salvation. This is fairly justified. But sentencing people to Heaven, because they don’t read or write, don’t own a television or radio, never lived in a large city, don’t speak the predominant language, or are mentally deficient, is beyond the pale.

I doubt there are many people who believe that, regardless of the denomination to which they claim they belong.

I’ll reply to as much or as little of your wan posts as I choose — just as you do.

You can pretend you make make the rules for this blog: Ordering me about, using “we” as if you speak for everyone here; that’s just funny.

But what’s annoying is when you think that you can do things your way, and then try to impose different rules on me. I don’t care if you respond to every single word of my comment. Hell, you ignore obvious context.

But don’t tell me I’m going to respond to you letter for letter, while you cherry pick.

Peter: The Bible’s positon is that EVERYBODY … will be going to hell without Christ
I sincerely doubt that you believe that, or that you know of a fundamentalist sect that believes that, or that you can find a reference to that effect.
Assuming that you could,and did, that is even more reason to find the Video unfunny.
I suspect you are misrepresenting yourself as a Fundamentalist Christian.

My apologies in advance, if I am incorrect.

1. I enjoyed the video a lot – we Christians are daft sometimes but if we are secure in what we believe then a little gentle fun poked at us will not be a threat

2. The Bible’s positon is that EVERYBODY (Americans, British, blacks, whites, Jews, Arabs, rich, poor, male, female – anybody human in fact) will be going to hell without Christ. A Christian is just someone who has recognised that and done something about it in their own lives.

3. God is love and has provided the means of escape from hell which is Christ. If you don’t want to jump off the sinking ship onto the lifeboat he won’t force you, but then whose fault will it be if you drown?

Have a nice day. And can we have some more of those great funny videos pleae?

The Fucking Moron: “That is one of my favorite lines from the left. They don’t “denounce” anybody — not Sheehan, not Churchill (Ward, that is), not Farrakhan, not Sharpton, they won’t even denounce Castro or Stalin, for cryin’ out loud!”

When was the last time Sheehan, Castro, or Stalin were held up as the standard bearers of the left?

On the other hand, Bill Donohue is the fucking leader of the Catholic League for more than a decade.

I could understand if the left was demanding the right denounce BTK killer cause he was a leading member of the local Republican Party, but that is not the case.

And again, you ignored 90% of my two posts. How this for a deal, reply to it all, or shut the fuck up, you goddamn coward.

Case of fact here: The ‘nutty enviros’ have never predicted that. Climate change may cause localized famines and extensive property damage along the oceanfronts, but not 6 billion deaths.

Sorry, thank you for playing the Batshit Crazy Hyperbole That Undermines Your Argument Game!

Not always. As I pointed out above, James Donohue has come out and attacked Hollywood Jews using that term. He certainly doesn’t hide his anti-semitism and he’s still considered a representative of the right.

He still gets on the TV plenty and he’s never been denounced by a large group of right-wingers.

That’s better.

That is neither morality nor spirituality. I guess the destruction of the world took place at night. I must have been a sleep and missed it.
It was all recreated just as it was by morning?

It’s tough to explain. Let me put it this way: prove to me that your memories from 4 years ago are real. Can’t, can you? It’s sort of a Philip K. Dickian/Bladerunner/Matrix type thing where your memories were artificially crafted. The reason you don’t remember the destruction of the world 4 years ago is that you were (re)created with memories that did not include said destruction.

When did I ridicule your religion?

You’re doing it right now.

Hey, Mr.ChickenShit, Pipeline: Shut The Fuck Up!

See, the reason you’re so angry is that you don’t know the true grace of our Lord, Haruhi. The sooner you accept Haruhi as part of your life, the sooner you will find true happiness. May she forever guide your path.

It wasn’t true then. It isn’t true now.

So, am I free to say that Christianity is not true? Oh wait, then I’d be an “anti-Christian terrorist” or some shit like that. Double standard Frank strikes again.

1.) Do you agree that Jews are going to hell?

Don’t you remember? He believes the Jews (past and present) killed Jesus. Of course he thinks they’re going to hell.

“Then what do you call a Democratic / liberal blog filled with thread after thread that contains anti – Christian comments? Is that evidence of the liberals’ anti – Christianity?
I say it is.”

Once again, you’re confising “anti-Christianity” with “anti-assholes using Christianity as a front”. Of course since you’re one of the latter, I’m not suprised you confused the two.

Secondly, is dominant religion in the world for 1500 years feeling persecuted? Let me get out my tiny violin.

The right long ago severed their ties with anti – semitism, but the Left?

No, you guys just got better at disguising it. (Re: “New York/Hollywood ‘Liberals’” = code word for Jew)

Two points:

1.) I said it because James Donohue said the same thing about Jews. You know, James Donohue , the right-wing Catholic. I guess when you said the right is no longer anti-Semitic you were ignoring him.

1.b) I also bet you thought it was anti-Christian when the left attacked him for saying these things.

2.) You ignored 90% of my post. I guess that’s your way of admitting you were wrong. Thanks for seeing the right is clearly more bigoted than the left.

She’s been dead since 1994, so she’s ready for you. Considering the best sex you’ve had recently is you, your left hand and your right hand, she’ll be a real treat.
I’ll send you MapQuest directions to the cemetery.

Now, stuff like you said usually gets people banned, but don’t worry. You said it about me. Your place is assured.

What the fuck are you talking about? My response was 10 minutes after your, and completely destroyed your argument.

“Well you se, Lizz, It started here:
Pretty good. But why is VH1 doing this? Are they jumping on the anti – Christian bandwagon with the Comedy Channel?”

It’s not fucking anti-Christian, which Lizz recognized. You wouldn’t know real persecution if people were rounded up into train cars and taken away to concentration camps.

On the other hand, you and your fellow Christians would be the ones marching the people to their deaths.

Me: “So a prominent member of the Christian right didn’t say all Jews were going to burn in hell?”

You: “A person made a theological statement that Jews could not be saved, and this is your evidence that Republicans are anti – semitic?”

Two points…

1.) Do you agree that Jews are going to hell?

2.) It is when this guy has the ear of the president. When your leadership is anti-Semitic, then the organization can be called anti-Semitic.

“Then what do you call a Democratic / liberal blog filled with thread after thread that contains anti – Christian comments? Is that evidence of the liberals’ anti – Christianity?
I say it is.”

Like I said before, you would know real persecution if it sodomized your mom. Speaking of moms and sodomy… Another prominent Republican said that Hollywood Jews love anal sex and hate mothers.

“Before he was elected, Kennedy was forced to distance himself from his Catholic faith on many an occasion to dispel rumors that he would be taking orders from the Vatican.”

And it was the right-wingers making those claims, not the liberals.

Just like today it is the right-wingers calling Romney Satan and a follower of a cult, not the liberals.

Then what do you call a Democratic / liberal blog filled with thread after thread that contains anti – Christian comments? Is that evidence of the liberals’ anti – Christianity?
I say it is.

JFK was Catholic and is still looked upon today as one of the best presidents ever.
JFK is looked upon as one of the most beloved Presidents ever. While he was President, left wingers suggested that there was a conspiracy between Cardinal Spellman, John Kennedy and the Catholic wife of Vietnamese minister Nguyen Van Thieu to get us deeply involved in Vietnam.

Before he was elected, Kennedy was forced to distance himself from his Catholic faith on many an occasion to dispel rumors that he would be taking orders from the Vatican.

Was there something you wanted to add, Mr. ChickenShit PipeLine,?

Then everyone went batshit.