Comments on: Mad Cow Meat? Ignore It http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:17:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71770 fd10801 Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:50:49 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71770 NG Did I say that they wouldn't explore improving the test? No, I did not. If you read my post carefully, without looking for a "gotcha" to pounce on, you have easily translated it: It's way too expensive to run a test that isn't really reliable, NG Did I say that they wouldn’t explore improving the test?

No, I did not.

If you read my post carefully, without looking for a “gotcha” to pounce on, you have easily translated it: It’s way too expensive to run a test that isn’t really reliable,

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71769 Nimrod Gently Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:30:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71769 I was responding to your previous post. Do you even see yourself typing anymore? I was responding to your previous post. Do you even see yourself typing anymore?

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71768 fd10801 Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:02:21 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71768 Nimrod Gently: And you know they won't try to refine the test, how? Nimrod Gently: And you know they won’t try to refine the test, how?

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71767 Nimrod Gently Thu, 31 May 2007 23:55:13 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71767 "Wasn't it determined that the disease is spread to cattle by eating the ground-up carcasses of infected cattle?" Yeah, that's the cost-cutting I mentioned earlier. We don't do that anymore. I hope. If the test might give you false positives, refine the test, don't just wander off. “Wasn’t it determined that the disease is spread to cattle by eating the ground-up carcasses of infected cattle?”

Yeah, that’s the cost-cutting I mentioned earlier. We don’t do that anymore. I hope.

If the test might give you false positives, refine the test, don’t just wander off.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71766 fd10801 Thu, 31 May 2007 23:00:55 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71766 I believe USDA's point is that if the test returns false positives in young cattle, people will be no safer, even though the price of meat will rise tremendously. I believe USDA’s point is that if the test returns false positives in young cattle, people will be no safer, even though the price of meat will rise tremendously.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71765 Duros62 Thu, 31 May 2007 22:15:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71765 Wasn't it determined that the disease is spread to cattle by <b>eating the ground-up carcasses of infected cattle?</b> I'd say we should cut that shit right out. Wasn’t it determined that the disease is spread to cattle by eating the ground-up carcasses of infected cattle?
I’d say we should cut that shit right out.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71764 Nimrod Gently Thu, 31 May 2007 20:55:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71764 "USDA has contended that such testing would give a false sense of security because BSE generally is undetectable in younger cattle." Take it from someone who gawped dumbly during the BSE crisis eleven years ago, that's just an excuse. I thought our farmers were bad (their cost-cutting and coverups largely caused said crisis, and also the foot and mouth one of six years ago) but at least they have something resembling accountability to a real entity, as opposed to the invisible hand of utter bollocks. “USDA has contended that such testing would give a false sense of security because BSE generally is undetectable in younger cattle.”

Take it from someone who gawped dumbly during the BSE crisis eleven years ago, that’s just an excuse.

I thought our farmers were bad (their cost-cutting and coverups largely caused said crisis, and also the foot and mouth one of six years ago) but at least they have something resembling accountability to a real entity, as opposed to the invisible hand of utter bollocks.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71763 C.S.Strowbridge Thu, 31 May 2007 19:18:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71763 "Of course, when you quote from another blog, there is always a slim chance that a fact or two will be left out "USDA has contended that such testing would give a false sense of security because BSE generally is undetectable in younger cattle." from Meatingplace.com" So they'd rather have a real sense of insecurity by not testing. “Of course, when you quote from another blog, there is always a slim chance that a fact or two will be left out

“USDA has contended that such testing would give a false sense of security because BSE generally is undetectable in younger cattle.”
from Meatingplace.com”

So they’d rather have a real sense of insecurity by not testing.

]]> By: nihilistic_disintegration http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71762 nihilistic_disintegration Thu, 31 May 2007 16:59:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71762 Hey, free market capitalism, pure and simple. If consumers stop <i>buying</i> meat tainted with mad cow disease, then the awesome friendly caring meat industry will stop <i>producing</i> meat tainted with mad cow disease. Don't you people know how America works? Remove all regulations and industries will police themselves. Hey, free market capitalism, pure and simple. If consumers stop buying meat tainted with mad cow disease, then the awesome friendly caring meat industry will stop producing meat tainted with mad cow disease.

Don’t you people know how America works? Remove all regulations and industries will police themselves.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71761 fd10801 Thu, 31 May 2007 15:39:38 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71761 Of course, when you quote from another blog, there is always a <i>slim</i> chance that a fact or two will be left out "USDA has contended that such testing would give a false sense of security because BSE generally is undetectable in younger cattle." from Meatingplace.com Of course, when you quote from another blog, there is always a slim chance that a fact or two will be left out

“USDA has contended that such testing would give a false sense of security because BSE generally is undetectable in younger cattle.”
from Meatingplace.com

]]> By: DrPidgro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71760 DrPidgro Wed, 30 May 2007 20:59:50 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71760 This case has been going on for some time now. I believe the company wants to ship its beef to Japan. This case has been going on for some time now. I believe the company wants to ship its beef to Japan.

]]> By: SpiderJ http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71759 SpiderJ Wed, 30 May 2007 20:59:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71759 No, wait, there must be some way to justify it! Have no fear! Um...testing for mad cow undermines the troops and plays into the hands of the terrorists? No? Well... Testing for mad cow will destroy the sanctity of marriage, right? Okay, maybe not. Testing for mad cow is a plot by GEORGE SOROS!!!! ... Yeah, okay, I got nothing. No, wait, there must be some way to justify it! Have no fear!

Um…testing for mad cow undermines the troops and plays into the hands of the terrorists?

No? Well…

Testing for mad cow will destroy the sanctity of marriage, right?

Okay, maybe not.

Testing for mad cow is a plot by GEORGE SOROS!!!!

…

Yeah, okay, I got nothing.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71758 C.S.Strowbridge Wed, 30 May 2007 20:49:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71758 If this doesn't convince you that Bush et al care more about profits than the safety of the American people, then you must be part of the 28%ers. You are lost to ideology. If this doesn’t convince you that Bush et al care more about profits than the safety of the American people, then you must be part of the 28%ers. You are lost to ideology.

]]> By: Thad http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71757 Thad Wed, 30 May 2007 20:48:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71757 Technically, they're not even fighting against HAVING to test beef for mad cow, they're fighting against allowing a company to do it VOLUNTARILY. Technically, they’re not even fighting against HAVING to test beef for mad cow, they’re fighting against allowing a company to do it VOLUNTARILY.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/30/mad-cow-meat-ignore-it/#comment-71756 Nimrod Gently Wed, 30 May 2007 20:44:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6094#comment-71756 ...The HELL? …The HELL?

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