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		<title>By: merlallen</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72305</link>
		<dc:creator>merlallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Republican&#039;t would rather give one billion dollars to a war profiteer than to give one dollar to a poor, sick, needy American.
They are good &quot;Christians&quot;, you know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Republican&#8217;t would rather give one billion dollars to a war profiteer than to give one dollar to a poor, sick, needy American.<br />
They are good &#8220;Christians&#8221;, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: merlallen</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72304</link>
		<dc:creator>merlallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>political_and military incompetence. way to blame the troops, chickenhawk.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>political_and military incompetence. way to blame the troops, chickenhawk.</p>
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		<title>By: mullah cimoc</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72303</link>
		<dc:creator>mullah cimoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 03:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mullah cimoc say ameriki needing for remember vietnam war ending.

when last helicopter fly away usa embassey how long before gun of war go the silent?

Answer: 3 day and then peace more than 30 years among vietnam people. back then time usa govt and control media say the same lying excuse for continue the kill.

special important: not the single viet cong coming for attack amerika during all this thirty year.

now patriotc ameriki man him needing for destroy israeli spy operations in usa start with eliminate neocon spy ops in usa.

also aemriki need for reading: a man called intrepid by william stevenson and inside the company, a cia diary by phillip agee.  then ameriki understand why usa media so control, keep ameriki so stupid.

then ameriki becoming the free again, him daughter not to take the LBT (low back tattoo), and becoming the slut for every man even the gang member.

Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mullah cimoc say ameriki needing for remember vietnam war ending.</p>
<p>when last helicopter fly away usa embassey how long before gun of war go the silent?</p>
<p>Answer: 3 day and then peace more than 30 years among vietnam people. back then time usa govt and control media say the same lying excuse for continue the kill.</p>
<p>special important: not the single viet cong coming for attack amerika during all this thirty year.</p>
<p>now patriotc ameriki man him needing for destroy israeli spy operations in usa start with eliminate neocon spy ops in usa.</p>
<p>also aemriki need for reading: a man called intrepid by william stevenson and inside the company, a cia diary by phillip agee.  then ameriki understand why usa media so control, keep ameriki so stupid.</p>
<p>then ameriki becoming the free again, him daughter not to take the LBT (low back tattoo), and becoming the slut for every man even the gang member.</p>
<p>Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 23:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, Dale Frank&#039;s &quot;former career NCO in line units&quot; service consists of 9 years experience as an MP in the USAF.  And it shows in his comment that &#039;some&#039; US service deaths are the &quot;price of admission.&quot;

What frauds like Dale Franks fail to understand is that there is an implicit contract between the armed services and policymakers. This contract is that servicemen understand they can be killed or injured in service to the nation. But the contract also means our servicemen will not be needlessly or frivolously sent into harm&#039;s way.

Keyboard Kommandoes don&#039;t understand this; they tend to think that if a kid enlists, he or she is disposable.  It doesn&#039;t work that way. Even a &quot;former career NCO in line units&quot; should understand this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, Dale Frank&#8217;s &#8220;former career NCO in line units&#8221; service consists of 9 years experience as an MP in the USAF.  And it shows in his comment that &#8216;some&#8217; US service deaths are the &#8220;price of admission.&#8221;</p>
<p>What frauds like Dale Franks fail to understand is that there is an implicit contract between the armed services and policymakers. This contract is that servicemen understand they can be killed or injured in service to the nation. But the contract also means our servicemen will not be needlessly or frivolously sent into harm&#8217;s way.</p>
<p>Keyboard Kommandoes don&#8217;t understand this; they tend to think that if a kid enlists, he or she is disposable.  It doesn&#8217;t work that way. Even a &#8220;former career NCO in line units&#8221; should understand this.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72301</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not to mention we pay Pakistan something like a billion dollars a year to hunt Al Qaeda for us. More money down the drain.&lt;/i&gt;

Outsourcing at its finest.

&lt;i&gt;Exactly Nimrod: just because I don&#039;t think the public should have to pay for Johnny Q. Lazy Jr&#039;s 14 cavity fillings on his baby teeth means that I actually want him to die ... of spinabiffoda!&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022702116.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;*cough*&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not to mention we pay Pakistan something like a billion dollars a year to hunt Al Qaeda for us. More money down the drain.</i></p>
<p>Outsourcing at its finest.</p>
<p><i>Exactly Nimrod: just because I don&#8217;t think the public should have to pay for Johnny Q. Lazy Jr&#8217;s 14 cavity fillings on his baby teeth means that I actually want him to die &#8230; of spinabiffoda!</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022702116.html" rel="nofollow">*cough*</a></p>
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		<title>By: bill l.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72300</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 22:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW, why are you continuing to debate a subject the Right, as they often do, refuses to honestly confront?

You&#039;re running in circles, having to waste time knocking down one false assertion after another.  Note how you cannot propose (A) without being told that, therefore, you MUST be in favor of (B) (i.e if you want to go after Pakistan, you must be in favor of an Iraq style invasion, &#039;cause, you know, what other options could there possibly be?).

It never fails, cons cannot approach this discussion honestly, no matter how much they pretend otherwise.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW, why are you continuing to debate a subject the Right, as they often do, refuses to honestly confront?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re running in circles, having to waste time knocking down one false assertion after another.  Note how you cannot propose (A) without being told that, therefore, you MUST be in favor of (B) (i.e if you want to go after Pakistan, you must be in favor of an Iraq style invasion, &#8217;cause, you know, what other options could there possibly be?).</p>
<p>It never fails, cons cannot approach this discussion honestly, no matter how much they pretend otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired Catholic</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72299</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year at this time reliably calculated figures put the Iraqi death toll, directly and indirectly, from the war at somewhere between 450 and 900 thousand. He&#039;s right, the body count really does favor us.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year at this time reliably calculated figures put the Iraqi death toll, directly and indirectly, from the war at somewhere between 450 and 900 thousand. He&#8217;s right, the body count really does favor us.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72298</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Cash money for everyone who lives past the age of 70? Perhaps Senator Byrd can point me out that clause in his pocket version...&lt;/em&gt;

I can hardly believe my own trusty eyes, Farris. Have you written that the Constitution and its amendments are all the federal law we&#039;ll ever need?

&lt;em&gt;Of course&lt;/em&gt; Mr. Byrd won&#039;t find any mention of Social Security in the Constitution. Let&#039;s not play silly buggers here: &lt;em&gt;The Constitution does not incorporate the entire Federal Code!&lt;/em&gt; There&#039;s absolutely no reason to pretend otherwise--unless you&#039;re one of those &quot;There&#039;s-no-such-thing-as-the-IRS&quot; crackpots.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Cash money for everyone who lives past the age of 70? Perhaps Senator Byrd can point me out that clause in his pocket version&#8230;</em></p>
<p>I can hardly believe my own trusty eyes, Farris. Have you written that the Constitution and its amendments are all the federal law we&#8217;ll ever need?</p>
<p><em>Of course</em> Mr. Byrd won&#8217;t find any mention of Social Security in the Constitution. Let&#8217;s not play silly buggers here: <em>The Constitution does not incorporate the entire Federal Code!</em> There&#8217;s absolutely no reason to pretend otherwise&#8211;unless you&#8217;re one of those &#8220;There&#8217;s-no-such-thing-as-the-IRS&#8221; crackpots.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72297</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More of the same is not viewed as a good thing. And, I would venture to say that the state of the average American&#039;s health is better than that of the average British subject.&quot;

I doubt it, we do have by far the better healthcare system.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More of the same is not viewed as a good thing. And, I would venture to say that the state of the average American&#8217;s health is better than that of the average British subject.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt it, we do have by far the better healthcare system.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72296</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course. I forgot that everyone has infinite amounts of money, and it&#039;s not a question of how much you CAN spend, only how much you WANT to spend.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. I forgot that everyone has infinite amounts of money, and it&#8217;s not a question of how much you CAN spend, only how much you WANT to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: bill l.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72295</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Constitution also calls for domestic tranquility and the promotion of the general welfare.

I appreciate that all poor people are &quot;Johnny Q. Lazy&quot; waiting for a free handout.  All , what, nearly 50 million of them (below the poverty level and/or without insurance).  They&#039;re also probably black or Mexican illegals, I mean, &#039;cause if we&#039;re piling on and all, why stop at income bracket.

Just because Farris characterizes this country&#039;s health care crisis as a question of propping up a bunch of lazy welfare queens doesn&#039;t mean he doesn&#039;t have compassion for these people, he just doesn&#039;t want to actually have to pay anything to help them.  Huge difference Nimrod.  H-U-G-E.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution also calls for domestic tranquility and the promotion of the general welfare.</p>
<p>I appreciate that all poor people are &#8220;Johnny Q. Lazy&#8221; waiting for a free handout.  All , what, nearly 50 million of them (below the poverty level and/or without insurance).  They&#8217;re also probably black or Mexican illegals, I mean, &#8217;cause if we&#8217;re piling on and all, why stop at income bracket.</p>
<p>Just because Farris characterizes this country&#8217;s health care crisis as a question of propping up a bunch of lazy welfare queens doesn&#8217;t mean he doesn&#8217;t have compassion for these people, he just doesn&#8217;t want to actually have to pay anything to help them.  Huge difference Nimrod.  H-U-G-E.</p>
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		<title>By: GravyPan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72294</link>
		<dc:creator>GravyPan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nimrod,

If my child gets sick, it&#039;s my responsibility to ensure she gets the proper healthcare.

I&#039;m odd like that, I suppose. Guess it&#039;s because I think that&#039;s something you sign up for when you become a parent.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nimrod,</p>
<p>If my child gets sick, it&#8217;s my responsibility to ensure she gets the proper healthcare.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m odd like that, I suppose. Guess it&#8217;s because I think that&#8217;s something you sign up for when you become a parent.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72293</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nimrod Gently: Kids deserve whatever their parents want to buy for them.

The government provides plenty of health care for people with low incomes.

Just that alone is expensive, sloppy, and rife with fraud, corruption, racial discrimination and bureaucratic bungling.

More of the same is not viewed  as a good thing. And, I would venture to say that the state of the average American&#039;s health is better than that of the average British subject.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nimrod Gently: Kids deserve whatever their parents want to buy for them.</p>
<p>The government provides plenty of health care for people with low incomes.</p>
<p>Just that alone is expensive, sloppy, and rife with fraud, corruption, racial discrimination and bureaucratic bungling.</p>
<p>More of the same is not viewed  as a good thing. And, I would venture to say that the state of the average American&#8217;s health is better than that of the average British subject.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72292</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Nimrod:  just because I don&#039;t think the public should have to pay for Johnny Q. Lazy Jr&#039;s 14 cavity fillings on his baby teeth means that I actually want him to die ... of spinabiffoda!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Nimrod:  just because I don&#8217;t think the public should have to pay for Johnny Q. Lazy Jr&#8217;s 14 cavity fillings on his baby teeth means that I actually want him to die &#8230; of spinabiffoda!</p>
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		<title>By: DrPidgro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72291</link>
		<dc:creator>DrPidgro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention we pay Pakistan something like a billion dollars a year to hunt Al Qaeda for us.  More money down the drain.
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72290</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids don&#039;t deserve healthcare?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids don&#8217;t deserve healthcare?</p>
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		<title>By: z adura</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72289</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris, there are plenty of other countries that a guy like you could go if you hate the idea of social spending for poverty and old age.  I would recommend Angola, Columbia or Turkmenistan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris, there are plenty of other countries that a guy like you could go if you hate the idea of social spending for poverty and old age.  I would recommend Angola, Columbia or Turkmenistan.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72288</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re (by which I mean I) am anti-big goverment when it comes to things not specifically enumerated in the US Constitution.

Defense?  You bet!
Building roads? Absolutely!

Free dental check ups for elementary school kids?  Hmmm, unless they&#039;ve passed a 28th Amendment that I don&#039;t know about...

Cash money for everyone who lives past the age of 70?  Perhaps Senator Byrd can point me out that clause in his pocket version...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re (by which I mean I) am anti-big goverment when it comes to things not specifically enumerated in the US Constitution.</p>
<p>Defense?  You bet!<br />
Building roads? Absolutely!</p>
<p>Free dental check ups for elementary school kids?  Hmmm, unless they&#8217;ve passed a 28th Amendment that I don&#8217;t know about&#8230;</p>
<p>Cash money for everyone who lives past the age of 70?  Perhaps Senator Byrd can point me out that clause in his pocket version&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M.A.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/25/iraq-round-3/#comment-72287</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 16:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I would add is that this occupation costs a hell of a lot of money.

Conservatives, who despise the use of tax money for almost anything, seem incouciant about the government wasting our tax money on a project that is hurting us rather than helping us (Iraq). This is our money they&#039;re spending on this thing, and if we stay in Iraq forever, they&#039;ll be wasting our money forever.

That&#039;s the essential fraudulence of the conservative claim to be anti-big-government, of course; they&#039;re all for big government and government waste as long as it involves the word &quot;war.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I would add is that this occupation costs a hell of a lot of money.</p>
<p>Conservatives, who despise the use of tax money for almost anything, seem incouciant about the government wasting our tax money on a project that is hurting us rather than helping us (Iraq). This is our money they&#8217;re spending on this thing, and if we stay in Iraq forever, they&#8217;ll be wasting our money forever.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the essential fraudulence of the conservative claim to be anti-big-government, of course; they&#8217;re all for big government and government waste as long as it involves the word &#8220;war.&#8221;</p>
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