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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/21/the-childlike-minds-of-intelligent-design-creationism-advocates/#comment-72831</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or perhaps the environmentalist movement (see Gore&#039;s intuitive propaganda, promotion of inefficient ethanol,&lt;/i&gt;

Wasn&#039;t your hero, Bush II, the one supporting ethanol?

&lt;i&gt;prohibition on clean-burning nukes,&lt;/i&gt;

Pft, good luck getting public support of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;prohibition on extracting natural resources in a clean way, etc)?&lt;/i&gt;

Ok, now you&#039;re just making shit up.

&lt;i&gt;Or perhaps the intuitions of thinking expanded government spending on education versus the evidence of poor performance in inverse correlation?&lt;/i&gt;

Because cutting funding to the point where schools can&#039;t afford text books printed after 1952 is REALLY going to boost test scores.

&lt;i&gt;Or perhaps abortion policy (living in the intuitions of the 60s instead of modern science)?&lt;/i&gt;

Modern science has proven that women aren&#039;t people? Show me this fascinating study.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or perhaps the environmentalist movement (see Gore&#8217;s intuitive propaganda, promotion of inefficient ethanol,</i></p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t your hero, Bush II, the one supporting ethanol?</p>
<p><i>prohibition on clean-burning nukes,</i></p>
<p>Pft, good luck getting public support of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island" rel="nofollow">that</a>.</p>
<p><i>prohibition on extracting natural resources in a clean way, etc)?</i></p>
<p>Ok, now you&#8217;re just making shit up.</p>
<p><i>Or perhaps the intuitions of thinking expanded government spending on education versus the evidence of poor performance in inverse correlation?</i></p>
<p>Because cutting funding to the point where schools can&#8217;t afford text books printed after 1952 is REALLY going to boost test scores.</p>
<p><i>Or perhaps abortion policy (living in the intuitions of the 60s instead of modern science)?</i></p>
<p>Modern science has proven that women aren&#8217;t people? Show me this fascinating study.</p>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
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		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, maybe the people that cannot accurately describe the concepts governing evolution by natural selection are willing to accept it on the basis that people they trust (e.g., scientists) overwhelmingly support it as a scientific theory.

I don&#039;t have to know anything about rocketry to accept the opinions of the scientists at NASA on space flight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, maybe the people that cannot accurately describe the concepts governing evolution by natural selection are willing to accept it on the basis that people they trust (e.g., scientists) overwhelmingly support it as a scientific theory.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to know anything about rocketry to accept the opinions of the scientists at NASA on space flight.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yes, child-like intuition is only found on one side of the political spectrum.&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t say that, but you&#039;ve just proved once again that the lion&#039;s share is on your side.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes, child-like intuition is only found on one side of the political spectrum.</i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that, but you&#8217;ve just proved once again that the lion&#8217;s share is on your side.</p>
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		<title>By: St Wendeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>St Wendeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 15:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, when it comes to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the formation of the universe&lt;/a&gt; (ie, what was here before the big bang), &lt;a href=&quot;http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/universe/b_bang.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;intuition is what most scientist have to rely on&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, when it comes to <a href="http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm" rel="nofollow">the formation of the universe</a> (ie, what was here before the big bang), <a href="http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/universe/b_bang.html" rel="nofollow">intuition is what most scientist have to rely on</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: St Wendeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>St Wendeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shall we apply the same child-like beliefs to socialist (aka liberal in the US) economic policies?

The intuition of any number of liberal economic policies (minimum wage, &quot;free&quot; heathcare, protectionist trade policy, taxation, etc, etc) vs economic evidence.

Or perhaps the environmentalist movement (see Gore&#039;s intuitive propaganda, promotion of inefficient ethanol, prohibition on clean-burning nukes, prohibition on extracting natural resources in a clean way, etc)?

Or perhaps abortion policy (living in the intuitions of the 60s instead of modern science)?

Or perhaps the intuitions of thinking expanded government spending on education versus the evidence of poor performance in inverse correlation?

Yes, child-like intuition is only found on one side of the political spectrum.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shall we apply the same child-like beliefs to socialist (aka liberal in the US) economic policies?</p>
<p>The intuition of any number of liberal economic policies (minimum wage, &#8220;free&#8221; heathcare, protectionist trade policy, taxation, etc, etc) vs economic evidence.</p>
<p>Or perhaps the environmentalist movement (see Gore&#8217;s intuitive propaganda, promotion of inefficient ethanol, prohibition on clean-burning nukes, prohibition on extracting natural resources in a clean way, etc)?</p>
<p>Or perhaps abortion policy (living in the intuitions of the 60s instead of modern science)?</p>
<p>Or perhaps the intuitions of thinking expanded government spending on education versus the evidence of poor performance in inverse correlation?</p>
<p>Yes, child-like intuition is only found on one side of the political spectrum.</p>
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		<title>By: merlallen</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/21/the-childlike-minds-of-intelligent-design-creationism-advocates/#comment-72826</link>
		<dc:creator>merlallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 11:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Rush Limpballs said evolution was real, millions of people would automatically believe in it.
They reject it because they don&#039;t like Al Gore. That is the only reason.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Rush Limpballs said evolution was real, millions of people would automatically believe in it.<br />
They reject it because they don&#8217;t like Al Gore. That is the only reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 05:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This &#039;scientifically credulous subpopulation accepts this information because they trust the people who say it is true&lt;/i&gt;

The flip-side of that is that regardless of the facts of the matter people tend to reject claims made by people they don&#039;t like

...which pretty much explains the entire wingnut response to the global warming issue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This &#8216;scientifically credulous subpopulation accepts this information because they trust the people who say it is true</i></p>
<p>The flip-side of that is that regardless of the facts of the matter people tend to reject claims made by people they don&#8217;t like</p>
<p>&#8230;which pretty much explains the entire wingnut response to the global warming issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Rounds77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rounds77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 04:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, human beings are imperfect and are therefore incapable of knowing everything.  But if we can&#039;t turn to the experts for scientific information, who do you suggest we listen to?

Limbaugh?
Pat Robertson?
Bush?
O&#039;Reilly?
Any fundamentalist windbag?

I.e. those self-proclaimed experts on everything?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, human beings are imperfect and are therefore incapable of knowing everything.  But if we can&#8217;t turn to the experts for scientific information, who do you suggest we listen to?</p>
<p>Limbaugh?<br />
Pat Robertson?<br />
Bush?<br />
O&#8217;Reilly?<br />
Any fundamentalist windbag?</p>
<p>I.e. those self-proclaimed experts on everything?</p>
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		<title>By: mwg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evolution seems to be a tough concept for many people to pick up on. The fact that schools tend to skirt away from it doesn&#039;t help any.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolution seems to be a tough concept for many people to pick up on. The fact that schools tend to skirt away from it doesn&#8217;t help any.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad you missed the true nugget of wisdom in this piece, Oliver:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Many people who accept that natural selection and evolution are reasonable explanations for where species come from, &lt;b&gt;can&#039;t explain the concepts&lt;/b&gt;, polls show. This &#039;scientifically credulous subpopulation accepts this information because they trust the people who say it is true, says the review.&quot;(emphasis sdded)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would venture to guess that this measure of scientific illiteracy also explains why so many people think that a consensus of &quot;expert&quot; opinions equals good science.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad you missed the true nugget of wisdom in this piece, Oliver:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Many people who accept that natural selection and evolution are reasonable explanations for where species come from, <b>can&#8217;t explain the concepts</b>, polls show. This &#8216;scientifically credulous subpopulation accepts this information because they trust the people who say it is true, says the review.&#8221;(emphasis sdded)</p></blockquote>
<p>I would venture to guess that this measure of scientific illiteracy also explains why so many people think that a consensus of &#8220;expert&#8221; opinions equals good science.</p>
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