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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73938</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 16:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You couldn&#039;t explain what that means in 10 comments, you prolix, verbose poseur!&quot;

Are you kidding me?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You couldn&#8217;t explain what that means in 10 comments, you prolix, verbose poseur!&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you kidding me?</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73937</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However, others can clearly see that you made a claim that was wrong based on what had previously happened in the same thread you made that claim&lt;/i&gt;
You couldn&#039;t explain what that means in 10 comments, you prolix, verbose &lt;i&gt;poseur&lt;/i&gt;!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, others can clearly see that you made a claim that was wrong based on what had previously happened in the same thread you made that claim</i><br />
You couldn&#8217;t explain what that means in 10 comments, you prolix, verbose <i>poseur</i>!</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73936</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 10:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It won&#039;t work this time.&quot;

What won&#039;t work? The facts?
The facts rarely work with you.

However, others can clearly see that you made a claim that was wrong based on what had previously happened in the same thread you made that claim. No one who is willing to look at the truth believes your victim stories.

&quot;Now that you have lost the ability to bait me,&quot;

I don&#039;t bait you, Frank. I don&#039;t need to bait you. You want to get into internet argument because... well, I don&#039;t actually know why. I don&#039;t want to know why. But the way you act is your responsibility, not others.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It won&#8217;t work this time.&#8221;</p>
<p>What won&#8217;t work? The facts?<br />
The facts rarely work with you.</p>
<p>However, others can clearly see that you made a claim that was wrong based on what had previously happened in the same thread you made that claim. No one who is willing to look at the truth believes your victim stories.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now that you have lost the ability to bait me,&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t bait you, Frank. I don&#8217;t need to bait you. You want to get into internet argument because&#8230; well, I don&#8217;t actually know why. I don&#8217;t want to know why. But the way you act is your responsibility, not others.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73935</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 14:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSS: It won&#039;t work this time.

The game is over.

You might as well go away. Now that you have lost the ability to bait me, you have no purpose here.

Buh - bye.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSS: It won&#8217;t work this time.</p>
<p>The game is over.</p>
<p>You might as well go away. Now that you have lost the ability to bait me, you have no purpose here.</p>
<p>Buh &#8211; bye.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73934</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When you don&#039;t do what you most often do, that makes you inconsistent, not me a liar.&quot;

Oh my god.

How can you be this stupid?

1.) You made claim A
2.) We made claim B, which was a mirror image of claim A
3.) You said if you made a claim like claim B we would challenge you for links and evidence.

HOWEVER...

In Step 1 you made a claim like claim B and no demand for links or evidence was given.

It&#039;s not like you made a prediction that turned out to be wrong some point in the future, you made a claim that was wrong based on what had happened earlier in the same thread.

You are just trying to pretend you are the victim here. You have a persecution complex and paranoid tendencies. And no, I&#039;m not going tilt at the windmills of your mind; delusions can&#039;t be fought with facts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you don&#8217;t do what you most often do, that makes you inconsistent, not me a liar.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh my god.</p>
<p>How can you be this stupid?</p>
<p>1.) You made claim A<br />
2.) We made claim B, which was a mirror image of claim A<br />
3.) You said if you made a claim like claim B we would challenge you for links and evidence.</p>
<p>HOWEVER&#8230;</p>
<p>In Step 1 you made a claim like claim B and no demand for links or evidence was given.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like you made a prediction that turned out to be wrong some point in the future, you made a claim that was wrong based on what had happened earlier in the same thread.</p>
<p>You are just trying to pretend you are the victim here. You have a persecution complex and paranoid tendencies. And no, I&#8217;m not going tilt at the windmills of your mind; delusions can&#8217;t be fought with facts.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73933</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 06:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you don&#039;t do what you most often do, that makes you inconsistent, not me a liar.

Now find me another unchallenged statement.

It is you who are the true troll, because most of your posts are not contributory, they are argumentative, gainsaying, and petty.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you don&#8217;t do what you most often do, that makes you inconsistent, not me a liar.</p>
<p>Now find me another unchallenged statement.</p>
<p>It is you who are the true troll, because most of your posts are not contributory, they are argumentative, gainsaying, and petty.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73932</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 04:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You may not have noticed, but the new game being played is that everything I say is now being challenged by a team, usually led by C.S. Strowbridge.&quot;

Woo hoo! I am the KING!

Seriously, (nearly) everything you say is being challenged because you are wrong so often.

However, not every claim you make is challenged:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/is_it_time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/is_it_time.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/is_it_time.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Last post says it all.

You: &quot;Well, that does it. Now, if I made a statement like that, you guys would be screaming for links and &quot;evidence&quot; and recordings and videotape. But will I? No, sir.&quot;

Me: &quot;I would like to point out that you made the exact same claims we made, and no one demand links or evidence. I guess that makes you a liar.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You may not have noticed, but the new game being played is that everything I say is now being challenged by a team, usually led by C.S. Strowbridge.&#8221;</p>
<p>Woo hoo! I am the KING!</p>
<p>Seriously, (nearly) everything you say is being challenged because you are wrong so often.</p>
<p>However, not every claim you make is challenged:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/is_it_time.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/is_it_time.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/is_it_time.html</a></p>
<p>Last post says it all.</p>
<p>You: &#8220;Well, that does it. Now, if I made a statement like that, you guys would be screaming for links and &#8220;evidence&#8221; and recordings and videotape. But will I? No, sir.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;I would like to point out that you made the exact same claims we made, and no one demand links or evidence. I guess that makes you a liar.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73931</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, NOW doesn&#039;t define &quot;contributing members&quot;.
As far as somebody challenging it, I knew that CWA has more &quot;member&quot; members than the NOW.
I knew someone was going to challenge it because they COULD.

You may not have noticed, but the new game being played is that everything I say is now being challenged by a team, usually led by C.S. Strowbridge.
It&#039;s almost as if they&#039;re thinking, &quot;Make a comment of my own? Nah! I want to talk about what Frank said&quot;!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, NOW doesn&#8217;t define &#8220;contributing members&#8221;.<br />
As far as somebody challenging it, I knew that CWA has more &#8220;member&#8221; members than the NOW.<br />
I knew someone was going to challenge it because they COULD.</p>
<p>You may not have noticed, but the new game being played is that everything I say is now being challenged by a team, usually led by C.S. Strowbridge.<br />
It&#8217;s almost as if they&#8217;re thinking, &#8220;Make a comment of my own? Nah! I want to talk about what Frank said&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73930</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 11:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, NOW publishes a clear number, CWA doesn&#039;t admit to a certain number yet somehow CWA has more members? How the heck does that logic work?

When you make a blanket assertion, considering your track record, it&#039;s gonna be challenged.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, NOW publishes a clear number, CWA doesn&#8217;t admit to a certain number yet somehow CWA has more members? How the heck does that logic work?</p>
<p>When you make a blanket assertion, considering your track record, it&#8217;s gonna be challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73929</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 11:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>merlallen: I didn&#039;t know you were referring to me. I just made the call based on your usual comments.

Oliver,NOW claims 500,000 &quot;Contributing members&quot;; CWA does not publish membership numbers, but external estimates range between 250,000 and 750,000, depending upon how membership is defined

Both statements from WikiPedia; neither organization publishes membership at the web site (cue CSS to roll into action)

I knew somebody was going to question it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>merlallen: I didn&#8217;t know you were referring to me. I just made the call based on your usual comments.</p>
<p>Oliver,NOW claims 500,000 &#8220;Contributing members&#8221;; CWA does not publish membership numbers, but external estimates range between 250,000 and 750,000, depending upon how membership is defined</p>
<p>Both statements from WikiPedia; neither organization publishes membership at the web site (cue CSS to roll into action)</p>
<p>I knew somebody was going to question it.</p>
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		<title>By: merlallen</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73928</link>
		<dc:creator>merlallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 10:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of funny that frank knew I was referring to him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny that frank knew I was referring to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73927</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 09:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please prove that assertion? Because I think it&#039;s crap. There are a lot of righty groups with more members than their lefty version, but I highly doubt CWA is one of them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please prove that assertion? Because I think it&#8217;s crap. There are a lot of righty groups with more members than their lefty version, but I highly doubt CWA is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73926</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 06:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things wrong with the Survey:
1) In the &quot;Shows watched&quot; area, &quot;FOX and Friends&quot; was left out.
2) In the Political Organizations area, the Concerned Women of America, which has more members than the National Organization of Women, was left out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things wrong with the Survey:<br />
1) In the &#8220;Shows watched&#8221; area, &#8220;FOX and Friends&#8221; was left out.<br />
2) In the Political Organizations area, the Concerned Women of America, which has more members than the National Organization of Women, was left out.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73925</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 05:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dude, we could do this all day.&quot;

Nothing would make him happier.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dude, we could do this all day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing would make him happier.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Zaius</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73924</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Zaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 03:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I took it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I took it.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73923</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, we could do this all day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, we could do this all day.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73922</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actually &lt;i&gt;you&#039;re&lt;/i&gt; the one taking the time out to write, &quot;I&#039;m not the one taking time out to write, &#039;I&#039;m not the one complaining when people insult me&#039;&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually <i>you&#8217;re</i> the one taking the time out to write, &#8220;I&#8217;m not the one taking time out to write, &#8216;I&#8217;m not the one complaining when people insult me&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73921</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m not the one taking time out to write, &quot;I&#039;m not the one complaining when people insult me&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

Um...yes, actually you are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m not the one taking time out to write, &#8220;I&#8217;m not the one complaining when people insult me&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>Um&#8230;yes, actually you are.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73920</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not the one taking time out to write, &quot;I&#039;m not the one complaining when people insult me&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not the one taking time out to write, &#8220;I&#8217;m not the one complaining when people insult me&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/10/who-are-you-2/#comment-73919</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did it.</p>
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