Comments on: The End Of Rudy Giuliani For President: He Gave To Planned Parenthood http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74319 Nimrod Gently Tue, 08 May 2007 20:17:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74319 Who was commenting on New York politics? I was just talking about the realities of political campaigning and the way the media works. That's pretty much universal to the western world. "A story gets boiled down to essentials. Nuances like the actual identity of the donor get lost." I quite like the Pipettes. Who was commenting on New York politics? I was just talking about the realities of political campaigning and the way the media works. That’s pretty much universal to the western world. “A story gets boiled down to essentials. Nuances like the actual identity of the donor get lost.”

I quite like the Pipettes.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74318 fd10801 Tue, 08 May 2007 16:50:58 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74318 Off Topic, Nimrod, what do you think of The Pipettes? I love them! Off Topic, Nimrod, what do you think of The Pipettes?

I love them!

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74317 fd10801 Tue, 08 May 2007 16:23:49 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74317 NG: Let's take a quick look at the "enormous hole in my argument". Who would you say knows more about Rudy Giuliani and New York City Politics? You: Residing in England. OR Me: Residing in the New York City metropolitan area, who grew up listening to New York City radio, watching New York City television, and reading New York City newspapers. I worked for the Internal Revenue Service (Inland Revenue to you), when Rudy Giuliani was the assistant US Attorney, and US Attorney, and cooperated in his fight against organized crime. Still think I "was trying to piss you off"? NG: Let’s take a quick look at the “enormous hole in my argument”.

Who would you say knows more about Rudy Giuliani and New York City Politics?

You: Residing in England.

OR

Me: Residing in the New York City metropolitan area, who grew up listening to New York City radio, watching New York City television, and reading New York City newspapers.

I worked for the Internal Revenue Service (Inland Revenue to you), when Rudy Giuliani was the assistant US Attorney, and US Attorney, and cooperated in his fight against organized crime.

Still think I “was trying to piss you off”?

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74316 Nimrod Gently Tue, 08 May 2007 13:22:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74316 He's just trying to piss me off because I pointed out the enormous hole in his argument. He’s just trying to piss me off because I pointed out the enormous hole in his argument.

]]> By: merlallen http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74315 merlallen Tue, 08 May 2007 11:55:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74315 fred is stupid and pathetic. he proves it here time after time. fred is stupid and pathetic. he proves it here time after time.

]]> By: Plantsman1 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74314 Plantsman1 Tue, 08 May 2007 10:01:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74314 Listen, it could be revealed that Rudy performed abortions and it wouldn't make a difference with the most fundie conservatives if they thought he had the best chance of winning. Listen, it could be revealed that Rudy performed abortions and it wouldn’t make a difference with the most fundie conservatives if they thought he had the best chance of winning.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74313 C.S.Strowbridge Tue, 08 May 2007 09:32:58 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74313 I don't know. I think he campaign was over when he married his second cousin. Most conservatives still don't know about that detail of his personal life. I don’t know. I think he campaign was over when he married his second cousin. Most conservatives still don’t know about that detail of his personal life.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74312 fd10801 Tue, 08 May 2007 04:59:01 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74312 Thanks, Diamond. I knew I could always count on you for a substantive reply and a fair assessment. Thanks, Diamond. I knew I could always count on you for a substantive reply and a fair assessment.

]]> By: Diamond LeGrande http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74311 Diamond LeGrande Tue, 08 May 2007 04:47:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74311 Neither, Frank. You now just seem stupid and pathetic. Neither, Frank. You now just seem stupid and pathetic.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74310 fd10801 Tue, 08 May 2007 04:03:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74310 Diamond LeGrande, why don't you break off the interview, and get into the spirit of the thing. I made my point. Oliver goes in for that "I see your name is on this paper -- did you or did you not give $900 to Planned Parrenthoood?", and he thinks it has some earth shaking significance. I say it means diddly squat. Nimrod peers through his telescope from across the sea, and avers that it "will agitate the base", because "nuances like the actual identity of the donor get lost". That might be true, except that if it becomes necessary, they will twist Donna's arm, and get her to say that it was her idea, not to mention that it isn't just nuances that get lost. This is May, 2007. That story will be forgotten by Mothers' Day. Now, do I seem either unnecessarily argumentative or dense to you? I hope not, because if you have nothing more to say, I sure don't. Diamond LeGrande, why don’t you break off the interview, and get into the spirit of the thing.

I made my point. Oliver goes in for that “I see your name is on this paper — did you or did you not give $900 to Planned Parrenthoood?”, and he thinks it has some earth shaking significance.

I say it means diddly squat.

Nimrod peers through his telescope from across the sea, and avers that it “will agitate the base”, because “nuances like the actual identity of the donor get lost”.

That might be true, except that if it becomes necessary, they will twist Donna’s arm, and get her to say that it was her idea, not to mention that it isn’t just nuances that get lost. This is May, 2007. That story will be forgotten by Mothers’ Day.

Now, do I seem either unnecessarily argumentative or dense to you?

I hope not, because if you have nothing more to say, I sure don’t.

]]> By: Diamond LeGrande http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74309 Diamond LeGrande Tue, 08 May 2007 03:45:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74309 Frank, are you trying to argue to piss someone off, or just being incredibly dense? I never can tell with you. Frank, are you trying to argue to piss someone off, or just being incredibly dense? I never can tell with you.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74308 fd10801 Tue, 08 May 2007 02:48:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74308 NG: That's a might fine - tuned ananlysis of New York City and United States politics from 3,000 miles away. Have you been in touch with the BBC USA correspondent? NG: That’s a might fine – tuned ananlysis of New York City and United States politics from 3,000 miles away.

Have you been in touch with the BBC USA correspondent?

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74307 Nimrod Gently Tue, 08 May 2007 02:21:29 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74307 Oh, also it says "he and", before it says "his then-wife Donna", so it's irrelevant. Oh, also it says “he and”, before it says “his then-wife Donna”, so it’s irrelevant.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74306 Nimrod Gently Tue, 08 May 2007 02:11:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74306 Won't make any difference to the people it's meant to influence though. A story gets boiled down to essentials. Nuances like the actual identity of the donor get lost. Won’t make any difference to the people it’s meant to influence though. A story gets boiled down to essentials. Nuances like the actual identity of the donor get lost.

]]> By: fd10801 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74305 fd10801 Tue, 08 May 2007 01:46:19 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74305 Didn't you say "his then - wife, Donna" contributed the money? Maybe in McCarthyesque algebra, Giuliani is guilty, but not in the real world. Didn’t you say “his then – wife, Donna” contributed the money?

Maybe in McCarthyesque algebra, Giuliani is guilty, but not in the real world.

]]> By: Diamond LeGrande http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74304 Diamond LeGrande Tue, 08 May 2007 01:46:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74304 B-but, the Republicans have a big tent! I'm guessing Huckabee, actually. He used the more-Republican-than-thou schtick masterfully with the Clinton quote. He's my dark horse Rethug, the guy who may well do better than we think, an affable wingnut. With the missteps the McCain campaign has made so far, anything smart out of them seems, well, out-of-place. And since it doesn't tell us anything new, I doubt it matters. Besides, when did Giuliani do anything with one of his wives after they tied the knot? B-but, the Republicans have a big tent!

I’m guessing Huckabee, actually. He used the more-Republican-than-thou schtick masterfully with the Clinton quote. He’s my dark horse Rethug, the guy who may well do better than we think, an affable wingnut.

With the missteps the McCain campaign has made so far, anything smart out of them seems, well, out-of-place. And since it doesn’t tell us anything new, I doubt it matters. Besides, when did Giuliani do anything with one of his wives after they tied the knot?

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/the-end-of-rudy-giuliani-for-president-he-gave-to-planned-parenthood/#comment-74303 Nimrod Gently Tue, 08 May 2007 01:27:43 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6287#comment-74303 To quote Theodore Edward Kord, BWA HA HA HA HA HA. To quote Theodore Edward Kord, BWA HA HA HA HA HA.

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