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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74434</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 11:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, that does it. Now, if I made a statement like that, you guys would be screaming for links and &quot;evidence&quot; and recordings and videotape.
But will I?
No, sir.&quot;

I would like to point out that you made the exact same claims we made, and no one demand links or evidence. I guess that makes you a liar.

By the way, here&#039;s some links:

Latino Support Peaked in 2004 and dropped in 2006:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/rights/49924/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/rights/49924/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.alternet.org/rights/49924/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cf26c237842ac9b296c0ff050b7723d7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cf26c237842ac9b296c0ff050b7723d7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cf26c237842ac9b296c0ff050b7723d7&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Christian Right:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/us/politics/25conserve.html?ex=1316836800&amp;en=549990025e0e5b33&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/us/politics/25conserve.html?ex=1316836800&amp;en=549990025e0e5b33&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/us/politics/25conserve.html?ex=1316836800&amp;en=549990025e0e5b33&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/no_candidate_for_conservatives.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/no_candidate_for_conservatives.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/no_candidate_for_conservatives.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

These don&#039;t have hard numbers, but the evidence is still suggests the &#039;Moral Minority&#039; are not enthusiastic about their choices within the GOP. While the are unlikely to turn to a third party, and even more unlikely to turn to the Democratic Party, there is a real chance they just won&#039;t show up.

&quot;I foresee major positive change in Iraq by the July 4 in 2008, when it counts.&quot;

Nope. Sorry. There&#039;s no hope of winning this war, period. And by October or November of this year, the GOP will turn on Bush and demand time tables for withdrawl.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, that does it. Now, if I made a statement like that, you guys would be screaming for links and &#8220;evidence&#8221; and recordings and videotape.<br />
But will I?<br />
No, sir.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would like to point out that you made the exact same claims we made, and no one demand links or evidence. I guess that makes you a liar.</p>
<p>By the way, here&#8217;s some links:</p>
<p>Latino Support Peaked in 2004 and dropped in 2006:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/rights/49924/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.alternet.org/rights/49924/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/rights/49924/</a><br />
<a href="http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cf26c237842ac9b296c0ff050b7723d7" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cf26c237842ac9b296c0ff050b7723d7" rel="nofollow">http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cf26c237842ac9b296c0ff050b7723d7</a></p>
<p>Christian Right:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/us/politics/25conserve.html?ex=1316836800&#038;en=549990025e0e5b33&#038;ei=5088&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/us/politics/25conserve.html?ex=1316836800&#038;en=549990025e0e5b33&#038;ei=5088&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/us/politics/25conserve.html?ex=1316836800&#038;en=549990025e0e5b33&#038;ei=5088&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss</a><br />
<a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/no_candidate_for_conservatives.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/no_candidate_for_conservatives.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/no_candidate_for_conservatives.html</a></p>
<p>These don&#8217;t have hard numbers, but the evidence is still suggests the &#8216;Moral Minority&#8217; are not enthusiastic about their choices within the GOP. While the are unlikely to turn to a third party, and even more unlikely to turn to the Democratic Party, there is a real chance they just won&#8217;t show up.</p>
<p>&#8220;I foresee major positive change in Iraq by the July 4 in 2008, when it counts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope. Sorry. There&#8217;s no hope of winning this war, period. And by October or November of this year, the GOP will turn on Bush and demand time tables for withdrawl.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74433</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 10:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sweeping up behind me. And you thought your life had no purpose...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sweeping up behind me. And you thought your life had no purpose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74432</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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I have nothing to add, just fixing an open Italics from above.
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74431</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 04:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, squirrel, you shithead (do they say &quot;shithead&quot; nowadays?) your &quot;Shorter Frank&quot; was longer than my comment.
You fuckin&#039; idiot.
{ &lt;i&gt;Do they still say &quot;fuckin&#039; idiot&quot; nowadays? }&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, squirrel, you shithead (do they say &#8220;shithead&#8221; nowadays?) your &#8220;Shorter Frank&#8221; was longer than my comment.<br />
You fuckin&#8217; idiot.<br />
{ <i>Do they still say &#8220;fuckin&#8217; idiot&#8221; nowadays? }</i></p>
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		<title>By: Squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74430</link>
		<dc:creator>Squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 00:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Frank:  If my typed words don&#039;t make sense, it&#039;s your fault for not understanding what I was thinking!!!!

Who calls people nitwits these days?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Frank:  If my typed words don&#8217;t make sense, it&#8217;s your fault for not understanding what I was thinking!!!!</p>
<p>Who calls people nitwits these days?</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74429</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To NG and squirrel: I mean AS REGARDS THE NOVEMBER 2008 ELECTION, YOU NITWITS!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To NG and squirrel: I mean AS REGARDS THE NOVEMBER 2008 ELECTION, YOU NITWITS!</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74428</link>
		<dc:creator>Squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 20:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fd10801 &#124; May 8, 2007 10:17:38 AM
&quot;I foresee major positive change in Iraq by the July 4 in 2008, when it counts.&quot;

So the last 4 years have been irrelevant?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fd10801 | May 8, 2007 10:17:38 AM<br />
&#8220;I foresee major positive change in Iraq by the July 4 in 2008, when it counts.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the last 4 years have been irrelevant?</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74427</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why does it only count five years after the invasion?&lt;/i&gt;
Because it&#039;s close enough to the election to matter.
The talk now is irrelevant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why does it only count five years after the invasion?</i><br />
Because it&#8217;s close enough to the election to matter.<br />
The talk now is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74426</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 15:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a) Considering where we&#039;re at now, this had better be some really, really major positive change, like God showing up and solving everything instantaneously.

b) Why does it only count five years after the invasion?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a) Considering where we&#8217;re at now, this had better be some really, really major positive change, like God showing up and solving everything instantaneously.</p>
<p>b) Why does it only count five years after the invasion?</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74425</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 15:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both CSS and mike &quot;foresee&quot; the Republicans losing Hispanics. CSS adds the Christian Right.
Mike in dc refers to a pretty long list.

Well, that does it. Now, if I made a statement like that, you guys would be screaming for links and &quot;evidence&quot; and recordings and videotape.

But will I?

No, sir.

I foresee &quot;election fatigue&quot;.

I foresee major positive change in Iraq by the July 4 in 2008, &lt;i&gt;when it counts&lt;/i&gt;.

I foresee that Sen. Obama will not get the nomination because he is not &quot;fresh&quot; or &quot;new&quot; enough. He&#039;s not saying anything Democrats haven&#039;t said since 1968.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both CSS and mike &#8220;foresee&#8221; the Republicans losing Hispanics. CSS adds the Christian Right.<br />
Mike in dc refers to a pretty long list.</p>
<p>Well, that does it. Now, if I made a statement like that, you guys would be screaming for links and &#8220;evidence&#8221; and recordings and videotape.</p>
<p>But will I?</p>
<p>No, sir.</p>
<p>I foresee &#8220;election fatigue&#8221;.</p>
<p>I foresee major positive change in Iraq by the July 4 in 2008, <i>when it counts</i>.</p>
<p>I foresee that Sen. Obama will not get the nomination because he is not &#8220;fresh&#8221; or &#8220;new&#8221; enough. He&#8217;s not saying anything Democrats haven&#8217;t said since 1968.</p>
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		<title>By: mike in dc</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74424</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  I foresee a big drop in Hispanic support for the GOP in 2008, plus a big uptick in the proportion of black votes if Obama is on the ticket.
There&#039;s actually a pretty long list of groups and sub-groups who probably will drop in support for Republicans next year.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  I foresee a big drop in Hispanic support for the GOP in 2008, plus a big uptick in the proportion of black votes if Obama is on the ticket.<br />
There&#8217;s actually a pretty long list of groups and sub-groups who probably will drop in support for Republicans next year.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74423</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Groups without which the Republicans cannot win, that they are in danger of losing: None.&quot;

Hispancis. If the Republicans lose Nevada and New Mexico and Arizona, they lose the White House.

Also, the Christian Right, so called values voters are less and less enthusiastic about the Republican Party. While they won&#039;t vote Democratic, they might stay home.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Groups without which the Republicans cannot win, that they are in danger of losing: None.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hispancis. If the Republicans lose Nevada and New Mexico and Arizona, they lose the White House.</p>
<p>Also, the Christian Right, so called values voters are less and less enthusiastic about the Republican Party. While they won&#8217;t vote Democratic, they might stay home.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsman1</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74422</link>
		<dc:creator>Plantsman1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 10:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democrats are in danger of losing black voters? To whom? And hey, condipundit- don&#039;t lose that tag.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats are in danger of losing black voters? To whom? And hey, condipundit- don&#8217;t lose that tag.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74421</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still haven&#039;t abandoned that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aunt_Jemima&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;racist tag&lt;/a&gt;, eh, bigot?
Does the hair spray bother you, sweetcakes?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still haven&#8217;t abandoned that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aunt_Jemima" rel="nofollow">racist tag</a>, eh, bigot?<br />
Does the hair spray bother you, sweetcakes?</p>
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		<title>By: condipundit</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74420</link>
		<dc:creator>condipundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For awhile, there were a few deluded nut-jobs out there insisting that Kindasleazy  run, but inexplicably, they wised up--er...walked away from that idea.

Alas, dreams die hard...like the ozone layer after spraying on 14 cans of hair spray for a visit by dignitaries. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For awhile, there were a few deluded nut-jobs out there insisting that Kindasleazy  run, but inexplicably, they wised up&#8211;er&#8230;walked away from that idea.</p>
<p>Alas, dreams die hard&#8230;like the ozone layer after spraying on 14 cans of hair spray for a visit by dignitaries. <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74419</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how Presidential Electoral Politics is played: There are states / groups / demographics without which you can not win.

Then there are states / groups / demographics that are always yours.

Two groups without which the Dems cannot win are the AntiWar Left, and Blacks.

They are in danger of losing some, or a lot of, both.

Groups without which the Republicans cannot win, that they are in danger of losing:  None.

It&#039;s going to be a real close race.

If it&#039;s Rice vs. Clinton, or &quot;Anybody&quot; / Rice vs Obama / &quot;Anybody&quot;; it will be an amazingly close race.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how Presidential Electoral Politics is played: There are states / groups / demographics without which you can not win.</p>
<p>Then there are states / groups / demographics that are always yours.</p>
<p>Two groups without which the Dems cannot win are the AntiWar Left, and Blacks.</p>
<p>They are in danger of losing some, or a lot of, both.</p>
<p>Groups without which the Republicans cannot win, that they are in danger of losing:  None.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a real close race.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s Rice vs. Clinton, or &#8220;Anybody&#8221; / Rice vs Obama / &#8220;Anybody&#8221;; it will be an amazingly close race.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74418</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;History&quot; can be a matter of perspective. I was in High School, when Kennedy was elected President.

By the way, it&#039;s not the fault of the Republicans that the Democrats have left millions of Afro Americans sucking the government teat since 1965.

Now that the people&#039;s largesse is getting thin, and self - reliance is getting popular, what do you expect republicans to do to get blacks to vote for them?

If I were a major Republican politician, and a black &quot;mover and shaker&quot; came to me, and said, &quot;I can get you the black vote, and you&#039;ll win in &#039;08&quot;, I&#039;d answer, &quot;I can without your help&quot;. What would you offer then?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;History&#8221; can be a matter of perspective. I was in High School, when Kennedy was elected President.</p>
<p>By the way, it&#8217;s not the fault of the Republicans that the Democrats have left millions of Afro Americans sucking the government teat since 1965.</p>
<p>Now that the people&#8217;s largesse is getting thin, and self &#8211; reliance is getting popular, what do you expect republicans to do to get blacks to vote for them?</p>
<p>If I were a major Republican politician, and a black &#8220;mover and shaker&#8221; came to me, and said, &#8220;I can get you the black vote, and you&#8217;ll win in &#8217;08&#8243;, I&#8217;d answer, &#8220;I can without your help&#8221;. What would you offer then?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74417</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did that news come in over the telegraph? Jesus H.
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74416</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 02:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He means recent history not goddamn Lincoln.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He means recent history not goddamn Lincoln.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/05/07/is-it-time/#comment-74415</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 23:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told myself I was going to ignore this thread, but I couldn&#039;t help myself: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newarkspeaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;History says otherwise&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?
Without a beverage alert?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told myself I was going to ignore this thread, but I couldn&#8217;t help myself: <a href="http://www.newarkspeaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4" rel="nofollow"><i>History says otherwise</i></a>?<br />
Without a beverage alert?</p>
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