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Link: Locked Out: The Lack of Gender and Ethnic Diversity on Cable News Continues.
Whites dominated the guest lists on all three networks in the weeks we examined. All three brought on substantially more African-American guests during the week of the Imus controversy, but largely went back to their white-dominated guest lists following the controversy.
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a similar article could be written about whites in professional basketball…we’re locked out I tell ya!
Hey, how much do you expect Juan Williams to do?
Hmmm, blacks make up 12.5% of the population, yet you’re bitching about cable networks having “only” 13.16% guests that are black (in the non-Imus weeks).
What, exactly, is your point?
God save me, I actually agree with Farris.
Damn it, that last one was from me.
I think the point is how they found blacks during the Imus deal and then forgot about them after it.
If you want to focus on racial bias, I would think you would be more interested in what’s going on at Justice.
gee a topic relating to blacks, and they wanted comments from blacks?
I guess firefighters feel the same way…everyone wanted to speak with them after 9/11, now no one does! We need an investigation!
Your posts are getting more asisnine every day Ollie…you are just looking for something to get your panties in a wad about….
Hmm- they found blacks during the Imus deal… AS if that is a surprise. Who did you think they would bring on? Puerto Ricans?
They find Hispanics during things that focus on Hispanics, and the find Muslims during things that focus on Muslims…
What exactly are you asking for here Oliver? Gee- it would be great if more black voices were represented in all sorts of news, arts, and entertainment, and sports (although we tend to be overrepresented in certain sports and entertainment, but that’s not a bad thing either.) Do you want to mandate perfectly equal representation or should we be working to get more that 13.6%?
And hey!- Why just cable news? Is network news any better? (Answer- No.) How about network news shows (Meet the Press, Face the Nation, This Week, etc.?) My guess is that you’d find the same percentages.
at least he didn’t try to really skew things by saying it was “fox news”….that would have been a really nifty show of yellow journalism
This acutally is something that responsible editors talk about.
Whenever there’s a “black” story (e.g. Imus), reporters make a conscious effort to seek out and report the perspective of black speakers. However, when the story lacks an apparent racial component, then the voices of minorities are seldom heard.
It’s not so much the reporting that matters–the opinions offered by non-minority observers are very likely the same as what you’d get from black, Latino, or Asian commenters.
It’s the exclusion that sucks. Those “non-racial stories” have an impact on citizens who aren’t white males too. It’s as if non-white’s opinions only matter some of the time.
how they found blacks during the Imus deal and then forgot about them after it.
Except … the data shows the complete opposite!
1 week before Imus, blacks averaged 12.67% of the guests (pretty close to their national population percentage)
1 week after Virgina Tech, blacks made up 17% of the guests.
Your study conclusivly proves that Blacks are OVER-represented when it comes to these talk shows. Hispanics and Arabs have a legitimate beef. Not so the black man.
I think a more important question to ask is how many of that 12.67% reflect the black consensus.
How much of that percentage is Ron “Cross-Eyed” Christie parroting GOP talking points?
Personally, I’m more concerned about the percentage of elected Federal Republicans of African-American descent. Still at 0%.
That’s what I’m saying, Ron. When a significant percentage of that 12.67% is Jesse Lee Peterson, it’s not saying much. In fact, you can’t really count any negro Republican as a black guest.
Sorry, LOL. That’s what I’m saying, Enlightened Liberal.
Sorry, LOL. That’s what I’m saying, Enlightened Liberal.
Good News! An afro American was hosting in Imus’ spot on MSNBC this morning.
Yay!
It was Larry Elder.
Never mind.
Exactly. Never mind.
Plantsman: 1970 called. They want their attitude back.
Frank: 1834 called. They want their shut the fuck up, Frank.
Oh, you mean 1970, when black folks voted 90% Democratic? It is what it is, fd. Wishing otherwise doesn’t make it so. And of course I noted that my convictions constitute an “attiude”. I wish I could say “how 1970 of you”, but it’s much more accurate to say “how 2007 of you”.
Maybe the better study would be the ratio between black conservatives and black liberals. I would guess that black conservatives get about 1/2 of the black appearances on cable news, when they represent about 2% of the African-American electorate.
The days when black conservatives held their meetings in phone booths are over. The days when they huddled in the corner and kept their mouths shut are over, too.
Get over it, plantsman. Guys like John McWhorter and, yes, Larry Elder, are here to stay.
Of course guys like that are here to stay. They’ve always been here in one form or another, fd. I take that as a given. The question is, are they effective? If effectiveness is defined as swaying black America toward political conservatism and the Republican party, they’re not effective at all, and never will be. If you define it as telling people like you that you are justified in holding black America in disdain, then they are very effective. In other words, they are the true race pimps.
Of course they are here to stay. Why? Because being a member of the negro collaborationist Right will always be lucrative:).
And also, black conservatives “know their place,” right?
“negro collaborationist Right”?
Who writes your copy, Paul Robeson?
Duros62: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
And, BTW, Plantsman, you are a fountain of cliches, who flaunts his victimhood like a banner, all the while proclaiming that you are not a victim.
I don’t hold black America in disdain. I’m not sure I know what that even means, but I’m not a racist. And don’t think that because you’re black you’ve got special expertise on discrimination, prejudice or bias; because I’ve been the victim of all three. I’ve also been the victim of black racism, and as a matter of fact, you are guilty of it right now.
It might be unfortunate for you that there are intelligent, black conservatives, because it blows your myth that “any intelligent black man KNOWS that white Republicans are no good”.
It also disrupts the notion that it is the Democratic Party (full of rich white guys, in case you hadn’t noticed) that will protect you from the nasty Republicans.
Ever been in a “Social Services” Office? Ever see any real job finding going on in there? How about getting people into school? Anybody teaching women how to take care of children? Ever see anybody who receives Food Stamps getting information about shopping or nutrition? Ever see anybody on Medicaid learn anything about First Aid or preventive medicine?
Every application has a Voters’ Registration form on the back of it. Coincidence?
I’ll bet every one of those “Social Services” workers votes Democratic. I wonder why.
You’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope, my friend. The Democrats are killing blacks. They are rotting in jails, they are shooting each other in the streets, they are having babies they can’t care for, they are aborting babies when they are afraid. And you think this is “good enough” — it would have to be worse with Republicans? Are you kidding?
Trust me, it couldn’t be worse.
I’ve posted several comments on this blog. Show me where I’ve flaunted victimhood. In one of the first comments I posted, I said that I think the goal for us is to get to the place where it doesn’t matter if you or anybody else is a racist or not. I meant that.
Again, show me what I’ve typed on this blog that proves that I’m guilty of racism against you. Any comments I’ve made about you have been made within the context of you being a conservative. Part of the point that I know I’ve gotten across clearly is that I’m not looking to be protected from anyone. As for black conservatives, there has been an effort by Republicans for at least the last 27 years to replace liberal black “leaders” with conservative black “leaders”. Do I even have to point out that the most remarkable thing about that effort is just how much it hasn’t worked? From the Southern strategy up to the recent Republican party efforts to disenfranchise black soldiers, some of whom were fighting in Iraq- obviously I’m just scratching the surface here- all that, and these people are still Republicans? Of course I dislike them. How could I not? However, I’m not too worried about them, because they are remarkably ineffective.
What makes you think I have anything against rich white guys? Once again, show me what I’ve said that proves that.
I don’t have a lot of personal experience with “Social Services”, but I do know people who have grown up on welfare and have gone to college; I do know that nutrional information has been given to food stamp recipients; child care, check. You bet every one of those social services workers voted Democratic? Every single solitary one? That’s just silly.
Ah, Democrats are killing blacks. All blacks? Most blacks? Which Democrats are you talking about? The ones who haven’t been in power for the past seven years? Those Democrats? Or are you talking about the Democrats who had Bill Clinton as their President? You remember Bill, don’t you? He was the one who instituted welfare reform. Remember how us blacks despised him for that? Listen, fd, I said in the first comment I posted here that all those pathologies are much too prevalent in our communities. How did you read that as me saying that’s it’s “good enough”? But I’m not about blaming anyone for that. It’s our responsibility, and blaming Democrats, Republicans, or anybody else just takes time and energy that would be better applied elsewhere. Yeah. I’m a victim.
Why bother? If you can make statements like you just made, you can deny anything…
“If you define it as telling people like you that you are justified in holding black America in disdain.”
That’s just one.
Any comments I’ve made about you have been made within the context of you being a conservative
So ALL conservatives are racists, and treat ALL blacks with disdain.
But that is not an accusation of racism, that is not describing yourself as a victim (as if being held in disdain is a normal state of affairs), and that is not a racist judgment on your part, that I am racist because I am conservative?
I won’t play games with you about Clinton. “Welfare reform” was simply an idea already in place in a state with a Republican governor that Pres. Clinton put in place under political pressure.
But I’m not about blaming anyone for that
Great. So I’m off the hook for the racism charge?
I doubt it.
And please explain what in the world black conservatives have to do with affecting my state of mind? I already believe that conservative economics would be good for every one. I learned it from people like Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, but I don’t need their existence to justify my attitudes towards black people.
I think John McWhorter says brilliant things about Black America, but he is practically unknown — talk about discrimination!
I do know that nutritional information has been given to food stamp recipients; child care, check.
I know it hasn’t.
And I’ve been in lots of DSS Offices — as an investigator, a Case Manager, and a client.
Any examples you know of would bolster your case.
I’m not some Country Club Republican that had negroes working for me before they “became” black.
I grew up in the projects, and got high with brothers on two different continents. I spent three years working in a halfway house for ex-offenders who were recovering substance abusers.
Blacks aren’t some mysterious species from another planet to me.
It’s no more “your responsibility” than it is the Indians’.
Black America was messed up by government malfeasance, beginning with Reconstruction. No real attempt to solve all the after effects of slavery has ever been undertaken, just as no real attempt to overhaul the reservation system has ever been undertaken. And I’m not talking about reparations.