“Obama would encourage automakers to make fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles by helping the companies shoulder the health care costs of their retirees. Domestic automakers will get health care assistance in exchange for investing 50 percent of the savings into technology to produce more fuel-efficient vehicles.”

That’s probably the dumbest idea I’ve read in a long time.

If the Big 3 automakers are going to be able to shoulder the legacy cost of retiree benefits, then they need to become profitable first. Pouring government money into Big 3 health insurance costs will only make unions demand more health insurance coverage, because the government is paying for it.

So somebody, maybe even somebody who works for the President knows, is making money. If the Goverment wasn’t making 3X as much in profit from gas taxes, I might be just as worked up as you.

Did you miss this part?

“Therefore, your complaint was, at best, unfocused.”

“As for your contribution, I’d take your “less gas” goal more seriously if your side (if not you specifically) wasn’t so up in arms about current gas prices.”

It’s not gas prices by themselves that’s the problem. It’s gas prices plus record profit for an industry that the Bush administration has strong ties to.

As for your contribution, I’d take your “less gas” goal more seriously if your side (if not you specifically) wasn’t so up in arms about current gas prices. The ONLY way to reach your “less gas” goal is for gas to price itself out of the market. You should be doing cartwheels over recent prices.

Two points:

1.) OW complained about a lack of a central plan for Oil independence in Obama’s plan, (and all politicians plans so far). Therefore, your complaint was, at best, unfocused.

2.) Any chance you are going to respond to my post? Or are you going to ignore the real issue with the energy plan?

Obama. Did you read what you linked to?!? Bullet Point #3 my friend.

How about letting the oil companies making record profits build the refineries.

Meanwhile, we can kill all their subsidies and help fund energy efficiency and oil independence projects.

After all, the goal isn’t cheap gas, it’s using less gas.

I said: “We need something … that we will find a fuel alternative and we will move the heavens to make it happen”

HOW IN GOD’S NAME DID YOU GET “HEALTH CARE” OUT OF THAT?

How about directing those funds towards building more refineries?

President Carter couldn’t say “nuclear”, and he worked with Adm. Rickover!