Although, it is quite true that you have never given any indication here that you’re familiar with the way most Americans live their lives. But you’re certainly not alone in that.

Why don’t you stop with your silly make – believe arguments?

If you have something to say, i.e., if YOU have something to say, then say it.

Otherwise, stop being a pest. You’re counting angels on the head of a pin, playing word games, how many ways can I say that you’re so – called arguments are unintelligent time – wasters?

Was that good enough for you?

You can’t counter my argument so you go after my nationality? Jesus frank, that was even more pathetic than usual.

Go back to your Albert Brooks forum, where there are people at your intellectual level.

Actually, I mean since about 1995, which is close enough to be a decade. From the rise of the NeoCons till now it is clear that liberals are better than these people. Also, I would have to include the times that liberals were in charge as you can’t compare and contrast two groups by only looking at one.

“I also know that for anyone in the United States to think they are superior to anyone else in the United States is not how the game was played when I was growing up.”

You have got to be kidding me.

“‘We all put our pants on one leg at a time’. ‘It rains on the rich and poor alike’. Those are the adages I grew up with.”

So you grew up with a bunch of insipid platitudes. That explains a lot. (And yes, I know that, “insipid platitudes” is redundant.)

“Not, ‘I sure wish the President had better elocution’, or ‘Our President is an idiot’.”

That’s cause when you grew up the president wasn’t an idiot. Even the latter years of Reagan when his mind started to go he was never as bad as Bush Jr.

“I never thought that when I looked up hubris in a dictionary, I’d find a picture of a liberal staring back at me.”

Hubris is thinking you are a dictator for four years in-between elections. It is not hubris to look at the mess the NeoCons have created and saying, “We could do a better job than this.”

Logically, if “if A then B” and “if B then C”, then “if A then C.” Transitive Property of Equality. (I know you know that.)

So, IF the AWB is at odds with the 2nd Amendment, AND IF Bush supported the AWB, THEN Bush is at odds with the 2nd Amendment.

That’s all I’m saying.

Let’s see, I’m…

“still an idiot!”
“more stupid than you were.”
“peculiar”
I’m also raving, incomprehensible and doublespeaking.

Such hurtful words, Frank.

To sum up, the BATF made some political arrests (as you said, they were covering their asses) of some guys who were “a bunch of yokels playing soldier.” And you’re defending this… Why, exactly?

Oh yeah, you’re a Bush apologist. Or, more accurately, a Conservative apologist.

“Defending the 2nd Amendment and “not being opposed to the 2nd Amendment” are two different things.”

So you’re saying that the assault weapons ban was a good thing and that it was compatible with our 2nd Amendment rights? I just want to clarify because most right-wingers were opposed to the ban.

I also know that for anyone in the United States to think they are superior to anyone else in the United States is not how the game was played when I was growing up.

“We all put our pants on one leg at a time”. “It rains on the rich and poor alike”. Those are the adages I grew up with. Not, “I sure wish the President had better elocution”, or “Our President is an idiot”.

I never thought that when I looked up hubris in a dictionary, I’d find a picture of a liberal staring back at me.

Two points:

1.) Strawman attack.

2.) Really? Cause it seems to me like you are trying to downplay this group of right-wingers as much as possible, going to far as to say they were just wackos without a political ideology.

“That’s where we differ.”

We differ in a lot of ways.

“It’s important for guys like Oliver and you to attribute violence to the right.”

No, it’s important we figure out why these people are violent and try to stop it. If an ideology plays a part, then we have to look at it.

Part of the right-wing today is the Us or Them. You’re either with us, or against us. Asking questions about how the war is being handled is the same as giving aid and confort to our enemies. This kind of thinking leads to violence very easily since you view the people who disagree with you are no better than the people who are trying to kill you.

“A year or so ago, John Leo made this great observation: “It used to be that liberals thought they were intellectually superior and conservatives thought they were morally superior. Now liberals think they’re both”"

After all we’ve seen over the past decade or so, can you really blame liberals for this?

In the late sixties and early seventies, you couldn’t swing a dead cat on a college campus without hitting a vandal or a bomber from the left wing of the political spectrum.

A guy I knew going back to high school days, once told me in a bar, “If I thought it would accomplish something, I’d blow this bar up when no one was it”. And we knew the owners personally!

That doesn’t lead me to attribute violence exclusively to the left. That’s where we differ. It’s important for guys like Oliver and you to attribute violence to the right. It feeds your delusion that your particular ideology is somehow better than mine, and that’s really, really, important to you guys.

A year or so ago, John Leo made this great observation: “It used to be that liberals thought they were intellectually superior and conservatives thought they were morally superior. Now liberals think they’re both”

Mheh

You can’t stop defending your team, can you? I think it may be physically impossible for you to admit someone who shares a similar ideology as you could be a dangerous threat.

Of course they were a threat — they were right wingers, weren’t they?
And we’re forever blowing shit up!

Arabs have been sent to Gitmo for less. There was a Canadian who was sent to Syria to be tortured for less.

They had a rocket launcher, (a home made one, but it is still a rocket launcher). Just cause they didn’t have a target picked out, doesn’t mean they were not a threat.

Even prosecutors say the ragtag group called the Alabama Free Militia had no intended target and was simply stockpiling munitions, said Boudreaux, who plans to meet this weekend with his client, Raymond Kirk Dillard, 46, of Collinsville, a supposed major in the paramilitary group.

I’ll return the favor:

That’s why Gonzales said he supported the assault weapons ban and Bush said he’d sign its renewal, right? Because they’re such vigorous defenders of the 2nd Amendment?
Do you know what an “assault weapon” is? Check the link.

Because they’re such vigorous defenders of the 2nd Amendment?

Defending the 2nd Amendment and “not being opposed to the 2nd Amendment” are two different things. So, yes, you are striving mightily to become more stupid than you were. I have learned also, from you. I have learned that some people flaunt their ignorance, brag about it, are absolutely proud of it.

So, they started an investigation “about seven weeks ago” and then put it on hold until they needed some political gun arrests? I’m not surprised I didn’t know that, either. Bureaucracies sure are funny.
How can I put this? They accelerated the arrest — you know, speeded it up, because of the Va Tech shootings.

And finally, we agree: Bureaucracies sure are funny
Funny peculiar — like you.

Stick to raving about Iraq — where incomprehensibility and doublespeak are signs of genius. Around here, anyway.

That’s why Gonzales said he supported the assault weapons ban and Bush said he’d sign its renewal, right? Because they’re such vigorous defenders of the 2nd Amendment?

“that is the most idiotic statement I’ve heard in a while!

Never let it be said that I don’t push myself just a little further, every day. Not like some people who maintain the same level of stupid, post after post.

“It translates into, “Before anyone can say, ‘This might not have happened were it not for the Bush administration being palsie walsie with the NRA’, ‘Get out there and make some gun arrests pronto!’”

So, they started an investigation “about seven weeks ago” and then put it on hold until they needed some political gun arrests? I’m not surprised I didn’t know that, either. Bureaucracies sure are funny.