This is what the conservative movement hates so much about the growing liberal blogosphere – the ability to accurately quote them (see O’Reilly, Bill): Tom Tomorrow: What They Said.
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That is teh awesome.
But Ollie, you forgot;
IT’S NOT A MOVEMENT!!!! A MOVEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT MOVES!!!! LIKE MY BOWELS!!!! CONSERVATIVE DON’T HAVE MOVEMENTS!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Don’t get up Jay, I got it.
I keep wondering how someone like O’Reilly or Kristol would actually respond if, on a TV show, after everything they said ,whoever they were ostensibly against just kept pointing out “but you’re wrong about everything.” Not even bringing up these particular quotes of spectacular ineptitude or anything to back up the frankly true claim of their wrongness, how would they respond? It’s not even really much of a personal attack. Peter Beinart calling Scott Ritter a pedophile was a personal attack. This would just be pointing out something true about them that anyone cognisent of the facts could recognize. How would they respond? Would they even, do you suppose, bother to substantiate their current claims, given that they couldn’t be bothered to fact check their previous certainties? Bill-O says combat will be over in a damn week, he certainly couldnt have based that quote on any actual fact. Given the likelyhood that anything else he says is equally anally-extricated, what could he possibly do except demand the mic be cut? Think it would be an interesting experiment just to try that.
Bonus Tom! Yay!
How dare you attack Bill O’Reilly for predicting a short war. He was probably just quoting what he read in the Paris Business Review. Also, he’s seen combat in person, you know, back when he was in Argentina at the same there was a war going on over at the Falkland Islands. Ever seen Argentina and the Falklands on a map? They’re close, man. Real close.
…how would they respond?
Well, hell, that’s easy. They would blame George Soros, of course.
Wow, irony. Keith Olbermann says Bill O is lying about MM’s propaganda wing WHEN he is taking material from MM. It’s a mystery why ya’ll don’t get mad at KO, who constantly lifts from MM and never gives attribution.
I know this might sound crazy, but I think Ian has a point there.
“I know this might sound crazy, but I think Ian has a point there.”
No. It would be like calling Google a propaganda source. Quoting someone is not propaganda.
I know this might sound crazy, but I think Ian has a point there.
He does, but when he wears a hat, no one can tell.
If I say that Bush said “mission accomplished” and you note that to a friend, how the heck is that “lifting” a thing? Media Matters researchers listen to the right wing media because nobody else does. We put up reports every day saying what they say, they are no longer under the radar. If the biggest sin in the world is the fact that KO read Media Matters and saw that Rush Limbaugh made yet another racial remark and chooses to accurately quote what Limbaugh said – how is there anything wrong with that?
“If the biggest sin in the world is the fact that KO read Media Matters … how is there anything wrong with that?”
Does Media Matters even ask to be attributed when someone uses their research?
Well we like it around the office when someone says our name on tv, but who doesn’t?
“Well we like it around the office when someone says our name on tv, but who doesn’t?”
Same here. In fact, I like it when people mention my name if if they are insulting me. I have emotional issues.
But the point I was making was that KO didn’t do anything wrong by using MM as a research aid without giving them attribution.