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	<title>Comments on: Alan Colmes &#038; Kirsten Powers Have No Idea How Much Damage They Do</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Estrich and Powers are on faux precisely because they sell out Democrats.  They wouldn't be invited back if they showed spine.
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<description>I've gotten angry emails from those two, also, lol!

That said, I think Colmes does a decent job given the constraints I'm sure he's under... not that I don't have my quibbles but overall I think he helps more than hurts the cause... and I've been blogging about him for almost three years. I'm not sure I can say the same thing for Powers. She seems more interested in launching her television career than in doing anything for Democrats.

However, more important than the performance of Colmes and Powers are those of the Democratic guests. As Jerry wrote above, they need to learn how to deal with the right wing noise machine, their tactics and talking points. More often than not, they are unprepared and seem unconcerned. If I had a dollar for every opening fed to a Democratic "strategist" by Colmes that they then failed to exploit, I'd have enough money... well, probably to pay my internet bill.

So in my view, rather than trying to change Colmes and Powers what we really need are better spokespeople to be guests on FOX News and the other cable networks. Wesley Clark is great, so is Jane Fleming (formerly of Young Democrats of America). Almost everyone else is mediocre.

To paraphrase Oliver, it's long overdue for the Dems to stop sucking.

Cheers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotten angry emails from those two, also, lol!</p>
<p>That said, I think Colmes does a decent job given the constraints I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s under&#8230; not that I don&#8217;t have my quibbles but overall I think he helps more than hurts the cause&#8230; and I&#8217;ve been blogging about him for almost three years. I&#8217;m not sure I can say the same thing for Powers. She seems more interested in launching her television career than in doing anything for Democrats.</p>
<p>However, more important than the performance of Colmes and Powers are those of the Democratic guests. As Jerry wrote above, they need to learn how to deal with the right wing noise machine, their tactics and talking points. More often than not, they are unprepared and seem unconcerned. If I had a dollar for every opening fed to a Democratic &#8220;strategist&#8221; by Colmes that they then failed to exploit, I&#8217;d have enough money&#8230; well, probably to pay my internet bill.</p>
<p>So in my view, rather than trying to change Colmes and Powers what we really need are better spokespeople to be guests on FOX News and the other cable networks. Wesley Clark is great, so is Jane Fleming (formerly of Young Democrats of America). Almost everyone else is mediocre.</p>
<p>To paraphrase Oliver, it&#8217;s long overdue for the Dems to stop sucking.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: mdhåtter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdhåtter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duros, consider this -

Does Bush damage the name of Republicans by being a visible national spokesman for the GOP?

To test the question, lets let the Senators and Congressman running for office vote with their feet. I'm betting he gets even fewer invites next round.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duros, consider this -</p>
<p>Does Bush damage the name of Republicans by being a visible national spokesman for the GOP?</p>
<p>To test the question, lets let the Senators and Congressman running for office vote with their feet. I&#8217;m betting he gets even fewer invites next round.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce/Crablaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce/Crablaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's funny is that many readers of this fine blog would consider Oliver relatively conservative on at least some cultural issues (religion, "Cosbyian", etc.)

It's not like Katrina van den Heuvel and Katha Pollitt write this blog.  So for Willis - who has no strong leftist to grind - to call out Colmes for being too accommodating of his right-wing employer and co-workers is a relatively severe indictment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s funny is that many readers of this fine blog would consider Oliver relatively conservative on at least some cultural issues (religion, &#8220;Cosbyian&#8221;, etc.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like Katrina van den Heuvel and Katha Pollitt write this blog.  So for Willis - who has no strong leftist to grind - to call out Colmes for being too accommodating of his right-wing employer and co-workers is a relatively severe indictment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Deerifield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Deerifield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Oliver.  Surprised this didn't get more interest, but Alan Colmes, a nice man I'm sure, has a million missed opportunities in the face of the hypocrite Sean Hannity.

Colmes knows that Hannity will say something one night to progress his opinion and then switch the next night when it benefits him in that context.
I've watched that show for 5 years and Sean Hannity runs it.

All topics are picked by Hannity - when
your panel talks about how a left winger said this "unhinged" thing or that "hateful" thing why Alan don't you balance it out with something extreme said by a conservative?  Here, I'll give you an example - Mark Steyn, no stranger to Foxnews, discussing the VT shooting directly questioned the manhood of the victims that didn't (as if we know) rush the killer.  He put quotes around the word "men" in his column to imply that they weren't living up to the male standards of bravery and fortitude.  Those kids are dead - in the ground, they can't even defend themselves.
Why don't you Alan Colmes approach Sean Hannity, or use the chain of command - Roger Ailes, and inform him that will be your lead off story back from the 9:30 commercial break?
I mean, you are a liberal.  Steyn is an ultraconservative.  Sean Hannity is a master at exposing the divisive invective spewed by liberals.  Shouldn't you be doing the same?

Oliver:  I only recently started visiting your site.  I had no idea you submitted a large % of the content to Mediamatters.  That's awesome.

And Alan...why in 5 years has Sean Hannity never chosen the non-white side of any racially charged issue he scopes the country for to highlight on the show?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Oliver.  Surprised this didn&#8217;t get more interest, but Alan Colmes, a nice man I&#8217;m sure, has a million missed opportunities in the face of the hypocrite Sean Hannity.</p>
<p>Colmes knows that Hannity will say something one night to progress his opinion and then switch the next night when it benefits him in that context.<br />
I&#8217;ve watched that show for 5 years and Sean Hannity runs it.</p>
<p>All topics are picked by Hannity - when<br />
your panel talks about how a left winger said this &#8220;unhinged&#8221; thing or that &#8220;hateful&#8221; thing why Alan don&#8217;t you balance it out with something extreme said by a conservative?  Here, I&#8217;ll give you an example - Mark Steyn, no stranger to Foxnews, discussing the VT shooting directly questioned the manhood of the victims that didn&#8217;t (as if we know) rush the killer.  He put quotes around the word &#8220;men&#8221; in his column to imply that they weren&#8217;t living up to the male standards of bravery and fortitude.  Those kids are dead - in the ground, they can&#8217;t even defend themselves.<br />
Why don&#8217;t you Alan Colmes approach Sean Hannity, or use the chain of command - Roger Ailes, and inform him that will be your lead off story back from the 9:30 commercial break?<br />
I mean, you are a liberal.  Steyn is an ultraconservative.  Sean Hannity is a master at exposing the divisive invective spewed by liberals.  Shouldn&#8217;t you be doing the same?</p>
<p>Oliver:  I only recently started visiting your site.  I had no idea you submitted a large % of the content to Mediamatters.  That&#8217;s awesome.</p>
<p>And Alan&#8230;why in 5 years has Sean Hannity never chosen the non-white side of any racially charged issue he scopes the country for to highlight on the show?</p>
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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
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		<dc:creator>mambochicken23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note, anybody notice Alan Colmes' link at the bottom of FoxNews.com?  It says, "Alan Colmes: Any Opinion, All the Time!"

WTF does that even mean?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note, anybody notice Alan Colmes&#8217; link at the bottom of FoxNews.com?  It says, &#8220;Alan Colmes: Any Opinion, All the Time!&#8221;</p>
<p>WTF does that even mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman's position is an extreme, minority position shared by less than 30% of the country. I'm no purist. I support moderate Dems, conservative Dems, and liberal Dems. I just don't support loser Dems who make the party look bad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman&#8217;s position is an extreme, minority position shared by less than 30% of the country. I&#8217;m no purist. I support moderate Dems, conservative Dems, and liberal Dems. I just don&#8217;t support loser Dems who make the party look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
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		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Wellstone, my comments were very snarky...

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;"the Fox Dems literally break their own necks racing to agree with their conservative counterparts"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Er, I'm pretty sure you don't mean "literally".&lt;/i&gt;

Good one. The problem is he doesn't know what "literally" means. Probably thinks it means "like, totally".
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Wellstone, my comments were very snarky&#8230;</p>
<p><b><i>&#8220;the Fox Dems literally break their own necks racing to agree with their conservative counterparts&#8221;</i></b></p>
<p><i>Er, I&#8217;m pretty sure you don&#8217;t mean &#8220;literally&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>Good one. The problem is he doesn&#8217;t know what &#8220;literally&#8221; means. Probably thinks it means &#8220;like, totally&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"the Fox Dems literally break their own necks racing to agree with their conservative counterparts"

Er, I'm pretty sure you don't mean "literally".
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Fox Dems literally break their own necks racing to agree with their conservative counterparts&#8221;</p>
<p>Er, I&#8217;m pretty sure you don&#8217;t mean &#8220;literally&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Mundane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Mundane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a relevant question is whether Colmes himself watches the show.  Is he aware of how he comes across?  I mean granted being there he probably thinks, yes, he is sparring on equal footing with Hannity or somesuch, but does he actually watch to see how it looks to an audience?  Colmes doesn't exactly surrender the battle as much as he doesn't seem to understand theres a fight going on.  With a few relevant exceptions (he called out Coulter for saying he was a liar repeatedly, but being unable to point out a single time where he said anything untrue) he hasn't really shown the kind of backbone his prospective audience would love to see.

I remember reading his book, "Red White and Liberal" and it opens with this email conversation he had with a conservative viewer of H&#038;C, and in it the guy comes off like insanely anti-liberal, treating them as less than human or something.  Colmes tries to get him to equivocate by asking "you're saying that you wouldn't let a heart surgeon operate on you or your family if you knew they voted democrat?" and the con actually agrees to this, and proudly so.  Colmes uses this to show how so much of the modern right is unhinged, but I read it and just asked "This is how you actually deal with people who tell you to your face that they want you dead just because you disagree with Sean Hannity?"  You remember in middle school at lunch when someone would take your chicken nugget and you'd call them on it and they'd say "I didn't take nothing!"?  Alan Colmes is the guy who comes up and says "Aha! Double Negative!" and gets beaten for it, and walks home focusing on being right.  The problem isn't lack of backbone, the problem is lack of perspective.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a relevant question is whether Colmes himself watches the show.  Is he aware of how he comes across?  I mean granted being there he probably thinks, yes, he is sparring on equal footing with Hannity or somesuch, but does he actually watch to see how it looks to an audience?  Colmes doesn&#8217;t exactly surrender the battle as much as he doesn&#8217;t seem to understand theres a fight going on.  With a few relevant exceptions (he called out Coulter for saying he was a liar repeatedly, but being unable to point out a single time where he said anything untrue) he hasn&#8217;t really shown the kind of backbone his prospective audience would love to see.</p>
<p>I remember reading his book, &#8220;Red White and Liberal&#8221; and it opens with this email conversation he had with a conservative viewer of H&#038;C, and in it the guy comes off like insanely anti-liberal, treating them as less than human or something.  Colmes tries to get him to equivocate by asking &#8220;you&#8217;re saying that you wouldn&#8217;t let a heart surgeon operate on you or your family if you knew they voted democrat?&#8221; and the con actually agrees to this, and proudly so.  Colmes uses this to show how so much of the modern right is unhinged, but I read it and just asked &#8220;This is how you actually deal with people who tell you to your face that they want you dead just because you disagree with Sean Hannity?&#8221;  You remember in middle school at lunch when someone would take your chicken nugget and you&#8217;d call them on it and they&#8217;d say &#8220;I didn&#8217;t take nothing!&#8221;?  Alan Colmes is the guy who comes up and says &#8220;Aha! Double Negative!&#8221; and gets beaten for it, and walks home focusing on being right.  The problem isn&#8217;t lack of backbone, the problem is lack of perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: VRWC drone</title>
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		<dc:creator>VRWC drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think you can measure how effective your post is by how quickly Pedo, Dugger, Frank, and the VRWC pop up with snarky talking points at you.&lt;/i&gt;

So pointing out a person's hypocrisy is now considered a "snarky talking point"?  Who knew?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think you can measure how effective your post is by how quickly Pedo, Dugger, Frank, and the VRWC pop up with snarky talking points at you.</i></p>
<p>So pointing out a person&#8217;s hypocrisy is now considered a &#8220;snarky talking point&#8221;?  Who knew?</p>
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