Comments on: Conservatives Out In The Cold On Immigration http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: VRWC drone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77010 VRWC drone Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:48:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77010 Because O-Dub can't seem to ever take his "All Conservatives are Evil" glasses off, he chooses to ignore the fact that many (if not most) conservatives are actually strong supporters of <b>legal</b> immigration. It's the <b>illegal</b> immigration they have legitimate concerns about. Questions like "How has unchecked illegal immigration negative impacted our healthcare system, our education system, our social services, etc." are ones that progressives like O-Dub apparently don't want to address because then it becomes hard to paint conservatives as the bad guys. I personally support people already here illegally having a path to citizenship. But it should also include them having to return to their own country and apply there in-person, out of basic fairness to their countrymen and women who also want to become American citizens but are following the rules and doing it legally. By the way, I noticed that poll you quoted didn't give any details other than a simple "78% of respondents feel people now in the country illegally should be given a chance at citizenship". So we don't know what the specific questions were or how they broke down. We have seen from numerous previous polls that the majority of Americans can support a path to citizenship while simultaneously supporting more enforcement (both in the workplace and on the border) and having concerns at the lack of assimilation they see occurring. It would be nice if you were to someday have an open and honest discussion of all sides of this issue without trying to once again turn it into a "conservatives just hate brown people" slam. But apparently that's too much to ask. Because O-Dub can’t seem to ever take his “All Conservatives are Evil” glasses off, he chooses to ignore the fact that many (if not most) conservatives are actually strong supporters of legal immigration. It’s the illegal immigration they have legitimate concerns about. Questions like “How has unchecked illegal immigration negative impacted our healthcare system, our education system, our social services, etc.” are ones that progressives like O-Dub apparently don’t want to address because then it becomes hard to paint conservatives as the bad guys.

I personally support people already here illegally having a path to citizenship. But it should also include them having to return to their own country and apply there in-person, out of basic fairness to their countrymen and women who also want to become American citizens but are following the rules and doing it legally.

By the way, I noticed that poll you quoted didn’t give any details other than a simple “78% of respondents feel people now in the country illegally should be given a chance at citizenship”. So we don’t know what the specific questions were or how they broke down. We have seen from numerous previous polls that the majority of Americans can support a path to citizenship while simultaneously supporting more enforcement (both in the workplace and on the border) and having concerns at the lack of assimilation they see occurring.

It would be nice if you were to someday have an open and honest discussion of all sides of this issue without trying to once again turn it into a “conservatives just hate brown people” slam. But apparently that’s too much to ask.

]]> By: Meet the Dem Quislings http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77009 Meet the Dem Quislings Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:29:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77009 I don't come here expecting intellectual honesty, but isn't there the possibility that the poll question was biased? And, did they ask a follow-up question of those who said "yes" to the question whether they still support legalization knowing that it will inevitably lead to even more IllegalImmigration, MassiveChainMigration, more PoliticalPower for the MexicanGovernment inside the U.S., and so on. I don’t come here expecting intellectual honesty, but isn’t there the possibility that the poll question was biased?

And, did they ask a follow-up question of those who said “yes” to the question whether they still support legalization knowing that it will inevitably lead to even more IllegalImmigration, MassiveChainMigration, more PoliticalPower for the MexicanGovernment inside the U.S., and so on.

]]> By: Rounds77 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77008 Rounds77 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:46:38 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77008 Pedro, for once I agree with you. Pedro, for once I agree with you.

]]> By: pedromd07 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77007 pedromd07 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:49:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77007 hell I agree with it. Those folks should be able to become citizens, once they leave this place and line up at the embassy in whatever country they are from and apply like any good future american. hell I agree with it.

Those folks should be able to become citizens, once they leave this place and line up at the embassy in whatever country they are from and apply like any good future american.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77006 Anonymous Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:20:04 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77006 What a coincidence. Congress does too since such a health exception does exist in the Act despite the pro-abortion hysterics. What a coincidence. Congress does too since such a health exception does exist in the Act despite the pro-abortion hysterics.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77005 Oliver Willis Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:07:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77005 Except most of us support some kind of ban <i>if there's a health exception for the life of the mother</i>. Except most of us support some kind of ban if there’s a health exception for the life of the mother.

]]> By: Hedley http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/19/conservatives-out-in-the-cold-on-immigration/#comment-77004 Hedley Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:02:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6482#comment-77004 So roughly 78% of the population favors immigration reform and thus, the public is right and conservatives are wrong. But about 78% of the population also supports a ban on partial birth abortion and yet the public is wrong and liberals are right. Makes perfect sense. So roughly 78% of the population favors immigration reform and thus, the public is right and conservatives are wrong. But about 78% of the population also supports a ban on partial birth abortion and yet the public is wrong and liberals are right.

Makes perfect sense.

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