Missing White House/RNC E-mails

2:40 pm EST April 12th, 2007 | Republicans | 34 Comments

Is there anyone who believes this crap? Anyone? Even the thirty-percenters?

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34 Responses to “Missing White House/RNC E-mails”

  1. SpiderJ says:

    They don’t have to believe it; they can and will just claim that there was probably nothing on those emails worth getting worked up about, and besides, SANDY BERGER OMG!!!!1!one!

  2. jerry says:

    They are trying to run out the clock, and I think they have a very good chance of doing that.

    While I absolutely applaud and encourage the Democrats to go after the Administration and Republican corruption, I would like to see some discussion among “you pundit types” of the best way to deal with running-out-the-clock.

    How do we make sure the stench rises big and accumulates over the heads of the party and their candidates so that the candidates can’t just come up with a “I’m an outsider but the Dem is an insider” strategy.

  3. Lib4 says:

    5 million missing emails since March of 2003….jesus

    5 meeee-lion emails

    In other words, the dog ate their home 4500 times per day..

    30 percenters should be starting with the Clinton did it defense in 3….2….1

  4. Duros62 says:

    Jay-zus. No shame, no credibility left. That well has run dry.

    OT, a legal question for anyone. Now that Monica Goodling has resigned from the DOJ, can she still plead the 5th, even in the wake of a Senate supeona? What does she have to lose now by testifying?

  5. SpiderJ says:

    What does she have to lose now by testifying?

    A lucrative place to land after the administration ends and all of its players go off to join the Boards of grateful Fortune 500 companies?

  6. fd10801 says:

    I’ve believed for a long time that when something is extremely hard to believe, it is probably not true.

    5 million eMails between March 2003 and October 2005

    OCT 2005
    -
    MAR 2003
    _________

    1 yr, 7 mos.

    approx 22 workdays per month

    not counting holidays

    let’s call a workday 12 hours

    12 * 22 = 264 hours

    1yr 7 mos = 19 months

    That’s 22 * 19, or 418 days

    That’s 264 hours x 19 months = 5016 work hours in 19 months

    Are you sitting down?

    5,000,000 eMails over 5016 hours is 997 emails per day!

    997 divided by 12 = 83 emails per hour

    That’s a little less than 1 and one – half emails per minute

    What did those emails say?

    Hi
    Bye
    BRB
    TTYL
    LOL

    The idea is preposterous!

    It makes me want to LOL out loud!

  7. Anonymous says:

    fd… that’s the first time I think I’ve ever agreed with what you posted! Wonders never cease…

  8. Wilbur says:

    5,000,000 eMails over 5016 hours is 997 emails per day!

    Actually, by your own figures it’s 997 e-mails per hour…

    So that’s where all those v!agra and p3nis enlargement e-mails come from!

    Seriously, though, Frank, the figure isn’t for one person but for the whole WH staff. How many poeple is that anyway? It would be nice to know more about how that figure was arrived at, and whether, perhaps, they’re counting bulk mailings.

  9. midderpidge says:

    At least 72 Wilbur. On top of which we discover that although the RNC was ordered to save Karl Rove’s emails in 2004, Karl was able to delete those emails himself during the period in question. The whole thing stinks.

  10. fd10801 says:

    And how many were routine junk — meeting notices, admin changes, holidays, and all the other junk that comes out of a bureaucracy.

  11. midderpidge says:

    Who cares Frank? The point is those emails should have gone through the White House servers. A more important question might be how many of those emails were of national security importance?

    As far as Karl Rove’s emails go, while involved in a criminal investigation an order to preserve emails should be followed.

  12. badgimp says:

    ok then..

    WHO ordered the deletions?

    WHY did they order the delitions?

    WHAT were the parameters they specified for the delitions?

    WHY did they set those parameters?

    WHO conducted the deletions?

    HOW did those who did the deletions ACCOMPLISH those deletions?

    just askin..

  13. fd10801 says:

    Who cares Frank?
    Exactly.
    No one.
    This is all partisan BS.
    “Watergate redux”, my ass.
    All Watergate got us was the insane seasonal ritual of the Lord High Executioner Special Prosecutor.

  14. merlallen says:

    The 30%ers belive what they are told to believe like good little fascists.

  15. nihilistic_disintegration says:

    To sum up Frank’s argument:

    IOKIYAR.

  16. fd10801 says:

    N D : It’s not my fault you can’t read.

    You know, I truly detest juvenile attempts to pretend a person said something they didn’t say.

    You know why? Because you think it excuses from addressing what I did say.

    You’ve just demonstrated one of two things: Either you have no idea what I’m talking about, or you might know what I’m talking but you haven’t clue as to how to respond.

    Way to go, ND!

  17. fd10801 says:

    Didn’t mean to leave you out merl — same goes for you.

  18. SpiderJ says:

    Frank – It doesn’t matter if the mail was inconsequential bureaucracy. Federal law mandates that the communications are kept, because nobody is allowed to decide for themselves what is and is not “important.”

    Whether or not you believe it’s criminal, can you not see that the inability to perform even this simplest of acts–the act of NEVER hitting the “delete” key–constitutes further evidence of incompetence? Why do you enjoy having our nation run by idiots?

  19. midderpidge says:

    What Frank ignores is that some of the mail was not bureaucratic junk.

    Spiderj, it isn’t just incompetency its a willful disregard for the law. In Rove’s case it’s destruction of evidence, obstruction of justice, as well as violating the Presidential Records Act.

  20. Wellstone says:

    I wasn’t sure for a minute if Frank had taken his head out of his ass for a minute there, but now am reassured his asshat is firmly wedged on, as usual.

    What Rove DID is against the law. Period.

    Now Fielding, the guy the White House lawyered up with, is making arguments to Congress, which is demnding the eMails, that:

    1. All eMails in the White House, whether they come from the President or not, and no matter what they are about, are beyond the reach of oversight.

    2. The RNC is the same as the White House because of Executive Privilege.

    3. Even of the eMails did not originate or return to the White House, the fact that they were written by someone attached to the White House puts them out of reach of Congress because of Executive Privilege.

    These are going to be very difficult stands to hold.

  21. PD100 says:

    All Watergate got us was the insane seasonal ritual of the Lord High Executioner Special Prosecutor.

    Ah yes, Watergate -Small potatoes.

    Oh yeah -Eat dick, Frank.

  22. SpiderJ says:

    Midderpidge – I believe that, but Frank and the others determined to go down with the ship won’t see anything illegal even if Bush were to come right up to them personally, look them in the eye and said “What I did was against the law.” So I don’t see any point in arguing to such people about the lawbreaking.

    Instead I ask such people–if this isn’t willfully illegal, surely you can see that it’s just plain stupid. Why do you prefer to have such idiots in charge?

  23. fd10801 says:

    pd100: Thank you for ending your otherwise unintelligent remark, with an even less intelligent remark.

    I made a point the other day of pointing out that I was often gratuitously insulted with no provocation.

    Thanks for proving me right.

    Footnote for the history buffs: Pres. Nixon was never impeached, but he did resign.
    Pres. Clinton was impeached, and did not resign.

    And, BTW, I actually don’t care if it’s illegal…

    So? It’s a stupid law,anyway.

  24. midderpidge says:

    Frank, impeachment is simply the stating of the charges. Conviction is the step that removes you from office. I seem to remember Clinton wasn’t convicted.

  25. SpiderJ says:

    Nixon resigned because Congress had him dead to rights on criminal charges. Clinton didn’t resign because the GOP had no such case.

    “It’s a stupid law, anyway.”

    Spoken like a true teenaged graffiti artist.

  26. Duros62 says:

    I actually don’t care if it’s illegal…

    …Unless it’s a Democrat.

  27. fd10801 says:

    Well, then, midderpidge, I guess Pres. Nixon resigned before he was even impeached, and Pres. Clinton was impeached and still didn’t resign.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    I still say no one has definitively come up with why someone broke into the Watergate.

    Two summers of hearings, some people found guilty, some people not found guilty, and no one knows what they were doing in there.

    It’s pretty clear that the purpose of the investigations, like the current spate of investigations, was, and is, to immobilize the Presidency.

  28. Duros62 says:

    Read the book, Frank. Or see the movie. Seriously. I was 14 at the time and I know.

  29. fd10801 says:

    Read what book? The Watergate book?

    I hope you don’t mean “All the President’s Men”?

    Why don’t you save me the hunt and the expense, and simply tell me why those burglars were in the Watergate?

  30. midderpidge says:

    Nixon resigned because he would have been found guilty in his impeachment trial. Clinton didn’t resign, went through the trial and was found not guilty.

    If there ever was a presidency that needs to be immobilized, it’s this one. Warrantless wiretaps, spying on citizens, unnecessary and disasterous war, torture, cronyism, failure etc.

  31. fd10801 says:

    midderpidge: I know how you feel. liberal!
    Durn that pesky Constitution!
    Let’s just mosey and / or sashay down to the White House, and turn that rascule out!
    He was never elected anyway!
    Florida!
    Ohio!
    Diebold!
    Halliburton!
    Awwwkk!
    Awwwkk!

  32. Duros62 says:

    I do mean All the President’s Men, Frank. You know, back in the day when reporters actually did their jobs and investigated and reported on what they found out.

    What, because Woodward and Bernstein were played by Hollywood liberals, it negates the story?
    Please.
    The Watergate burglers broke into the DNC headquarters offices to plant bugs.
    And you know it.

  33. midderpidge says:

    Wow, Frank, I made a list entirely of things I feel are aggregious abuses of executive power. And Frank looks at it, his brain turns off and its Kool Aid time.

    Gulp! Gulp! Straight from the George Bush Trickle Down Spout.

  34. fd10801 says:

    midderpidge: If anyone is drinking Kool – Aid, it’s you. Whatever gave you the idea that if you say it, it must be so, and I must believe it?

    Day – um!

    * * *

    And Duros, I just read something this afternoon about idea, that indicated the flaws in it.

    When I say no one knows why they were in there, it’s because there is no direct evidence as to what they were doing in there — no bugs, no stolen documents, no dead bodies — and the burglars haven’t told us.

    They never had to, because it was about “Get Nixon”.

    I didn’t say they didn’t do anything. I’m saying it became unimportant, once they drew “Nixon blood”.

    Just like people now wanted Rove to testify in the Libby trial.

    And people now want to Subpoena 5 million emails

    5 million emails!

    Talking about throwing enough crap on the wall to see what will stick.

    Day – um!