Comments on: Mike Allen & The Politico Pen Another Hit Job On Obama http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:09:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80164 Oliver Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:59:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80164 The McCain issue was even bigger news because McCain has been on the national stage for 30 years yet doesn't know his position on AIDS. Furthermore, why is it news if it isn't new? The issues weren't new, there's no new effect on Obama's standing. It's designed to send Drudge traffic to Politico, nothing more. The McCain issue was even bigger news because McCain has been on the national stage for 30 years yet doesn’t know his position on AIDS. Furthermore, why is it news if it isn’t new? The issues weren’t new, there’s no new effect on Obama’s standing. It’s designed to send Drudge traffic to Politico, nothing more.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80163 Jay Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:28:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80163 1. Allen didn't write it as if it were new or old. It just is and that's what Allen wrote. 2. Allen didn't say it was hurting his campaign but did say that such statements would start garnering more critical press attention. He's right. <i>Romney isn't on magazine covers for the same reason Duncan Hunter and Dennis Kucinich aren't.</i> And Allen didn't mention McCain because he's not a rookie. Good to see you understand now. 1. Allen didn’t write it as if it were new or old. It just is and that’s what Allen wrote.

2. Allen didn’t say it was hurting his campaign but did say that such statements would start garnering more critical press attention. He’s right.

Romney isn’t on magazine covers for the same reason Duncan Hunter and Dennis Kucinich aren’t.

And Allen didn’t mention McCain because he’s not a rookie. Good to see you understand now.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80162 Oliver Willis Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:11:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80162 Allen is writing about this stuff as if any of it is new or that it is hurting his standing in the polls - neither is true. Romney isn't on magazine covers for the same reason Duncan Hunter and Dennis Kucinich aren't. Allen is writing about this stuff as if any of it is new or that it is hurting his standing in the polls – neither is true. Romney isn’t on magazine covers for the same reason Duncan Hunter and Dennis Kucinich aren’t.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80161 Jay Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:07:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80161 <i>Well, OK, my gripe is with a "journalist" not covering the whole spectrum, seeing both sides from an objective viewpoint.</i> Yeah, but is the media supposed to write about every candidate every time they write about one? Obama has been on the cover of Time and Newsweek. I haven't seen Romney on the cover yet. Is that evidence of bias on the part of those magazines against the other candidates? Well, OK, my gripe is with a “journalist” not covering the whole spectrum, seeing both sides from an objective viewpoint.

Yeah, but is the media supposed to write about every candidate every time they write about one?

Obama has been on the cover of Time and Newsweek. I haven’t seen Romney on the cover yet. Is that evidence of bias on the part of those magazines against the other candidates?

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80160 Duros62 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:38:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80160 <i>Duros, if your gripe is with somebody not reporting about somebody else, then address that.</i> Well, OK, my gripe is with a "journalist" not covering the whole spectrum, seeing both sides from an objective viewpoint. Naive, I know, but isn't that what journalism is supposed to be about? Instead of just pointing and laughing? Duros, if your gripe is with somebody not reporting about somebody else, then address that.

Well, OK, my gripe is with a “journalist” not covering the whole spectrum, seeing both sides from an objective viewpoint. Naive, I know, but isn’t that what journalism is supposed to be about? Instead of just pointing and laughing?

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80159 Jay Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:17:38 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80159 Duros, if your gripe is with somebody not reporting about somebody else, then address that. That still has nothing to do with the piece that Allen wrote. And Oliver, you pointed out yourself what could be fallout for Obama with regard to all of this. He's consistently polling second behind Hillary Clinton despite the glowing press he has received. And I disagree with you. I think stories about Obama's ancestors owning slaves is pointless and a complete waste of time. Him railing against an energy bill he voted for is something that is relevant. Allen points out that this kind of stuff is going to become fodder for the mainstream press at large who like nothing better than tearing a candidate down after they helped to build him up. Duros, if your gripe is with somebody not reporting about somebody else, then address that. That still has nothing to do with the piece that Allen wrote.

And Oliver, you pointed out yourself what could be fallout for Obama with regard to all of this. He’s consistently polling second behind Hillary Clinton despite the glowing press he has received.

And I disagree with you. I think stories about Obama’s ancestors owning slaves is pointless and a complete waste of time. Him railing against an energy bill he voted for is something that is relevant.

Allen points out that this kind of stuff is going to become fodder for the mainstream press at large who like nothing better than tearing a candidate down after they helped to build him up.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80158 Oliver Willis Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:39:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80158 Jay: You would think that an article entailing "rookie mistakes" would report new information, or perhaps any factual reason for saying the campaign had been hurt by gaffes - like how Mitt Romney's campaign has been hurt by his flip flopping. Like the articles with new information on Giuliani's marriages, I had no objection to the stories about Obama's life in Hawaii, or even about his ancestors holding slaves. But this piece is simply linkbait for Matt Drudge. Jay: You would think that an article entailing “rookie mistakes” would report new information, or perhaps any factual reason for saying the campaign had been hurt by gaffes – like how Mitt Romney’s campaign has been hurt by his flip flopping. Like the articles with new information on Giuliani’s marriages, I had no objection to the stories about Obama’s life in Hawaii, or even about his ancestors holding slaves. But this piece is simply linkbait for Matt Drudge.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80157 Duros62 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:26:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80157 <i>Instead it pointed out some verbal miscues...</i> Isn't that Oliver's point? That's all the there there. When John McCain has to check the glove box of the Straight Talk Express to find out what he said before, that seems more damning. Why doesn't Politico report on that? Huh? Huh? Instead it pointed out some verbal miscues…

Isn’t that Oliver’s point? That’s all the there there. When John McCain has to check the glove box of the Straight Talk Express to find out what he said before, that seems more damning. Why doesn’t Politico report on that? Huh? Huh?

]]> By: Organic George http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80156 Organic George Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:11:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80156 I sent Politico an e-mail yesterday suggesting they add "Right Wing" to their masthead and just end the charade of unbiased journalism. They replied stating they many "unbiased reporters". Yea, Right! I sent Politico an e-mail yesterday suggesting they add “Right Wing” to their masthead and just end the charade of unbiased journalism.

They replied stating they many “unbiased reporters”. Yea, Right!

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80155 Jay Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:23:11 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80155 Jiminy Cricket, my reading comprehension is just fine. I'd like to know why Ollie's panties are in such a wad over an article that is pretty innocuous. From Oliver's opening salvo, one would have thought the article accused Obama of peddling kiddie p0rn. Instead it pointed out some verbal miscues to which Oliver replies that it can't be hurting him because he's in second place in all the polls. Jiminy Cricket, my reading comprehension is just fine. I’d like to know why Ollie’s panties are in such a wad over an article that is pretty innocuous.

From Oliver’s opening salvo, one would have thought the article accused Obama of peddling kiddie p0rn. Instead it pointed out some verbal miscues to which Oliver replies that it can’t be hurting him because he’s in second place in all the polls.

]]> By: jimmmm http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80154 jimmmm Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:14:41 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80154 Ollie: Way to work the refs! Not letting anything go unnoticed or uncommented upon is how the left can redress the right-leaning bias of the mainstream media. Jay: Your teachers couldn't help your reading comprehension problem in grade three, so I'm not about to try to help you now. Sorry. Ollie: Way to work the refs! Not letting anything go unnoticed or uncommented upon is how the left can redress the right-leaning bias of the mainstream media.

Jay: Your teachers couldn’t help your reading comprehension problem in grade three, so I’m not about to try to help you now. Sorry.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80153 Jay Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:55:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80153 I'm sorry, but what is so terrible about this article? It seems pretty reasonable. "Political sewer"? Laying it on a little thick aren't we Oliver? Oh and you write: <i>It isn't objective reporting of the facts.</i> Can you point me to one example in the piece that isn't an objective reporting of the facts? Tell me Oliver, if this isn't objective reporting of the facts then why do Rudy's marriages have any relevance? I’m sorry, but what is so terrible about this article? It seems pretty reasonable. “Political sewer”? Laying it on a little thick aren’t we Oliver?

Oh and you write:

It isn’t objective reporting of the facts.

Can you point me to one example in the piece that isn’t an objective reporting of the facts?

Tell me Oliver, if this isn’t objective reporting of the facts then why do Rudy’s marriages have any relevance?

]]> By: houseofpolitics http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/27/mike-allen-the-politico-pen-another-hit-job-on-obama/#comment-80152 houseofpolitics Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:54:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6670#comment-80152 I think Obama is too hyped up now. I'm tired of hearing about him. I think Obama is too hyped up now.

I’m tired of hearing about him.

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