More Validation Of The Democratic Position On Iraq
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Dead-eye Dick Cheney spewed again.
Vice President Dick Cheney today accused the Democrat-led House of not supporting troops in Iraq and of sending a message to terrorists that America will retreat in the face danger.
"They’re not supporting the troops. They’re undermining them," Cheney told a gathering of the Republican Jewish Coalition at the oceanside Ritz-Carlton hotel in Manalapan, Fla., about 60 miles north of Miami.
When you’re on the opposite side of history from the man who is clearly the worst vice president the nation has ever had, you’re doing something right.
Anyone notice the con echo chamber is broken – perhaps permanently?
In the past, the President and Veep would say some nonsense, following along the talking points would echo on Fox News, talk radio (especially Limbaugh between pills) and on the lips of Republican pols until the Dems would bend.
I’m sure by the time of next year’s election, where the threat of true exile from all three branches comes closer to reality (oh happy day) it will be back and stronger. But until then, thanks to the disparity between their words and the objective truth in Iraq and Katrina, their mewling only gets the hackles up of the 30% dead-enders and nobody else who isn’t a zombie.
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Anyone notice the righties echo chamber is broken – perhaps permanently?
Right.
Vice President Cheney on the House Anti-Victory Vote
By Mark Noonan at 08:49 AM
and, of course, here
It’s hard to be on the wrong side of history, when the history of the Iraq war won’t be written for at least another decade.
God, you’re an idiot. Of course the press is going to report what he said – as horrible a person as he is, he is the vice president. But the clear point of my post is that his words will have no effect. There’s no political price to be paid for being opposite of George Bush and Dick Cheney. If anything, being on the right side of history opposite them will clearly pay positive dividends.
But the clear point of my post is that his words will have no effect
What effect? That people will think he’s right, and some won’t?
Way to go out on a limb, Oliver.
Why don’t you wait until at least, say, tomorrow, before you assess the effect of his speech?
The effect has usually been immediate, I kind of work in the industry. Nobody beyond the deadenders will be swayed by this speech, the right wing echo chamber has been halted – however temporarily – by the fact that people understand that 1+1=2.
yea, OW, they also understand that it is, to say the least, inconsistent to state that what we are doing is wrong, and then to support doing for two more years….
Back to the liberal “triangulation” days of the clinton white house. The same policies that set up the current terrorist regimes….great….
Why don’t you guys like this bill again? Because it forces Bush to actually show some progress and success in Iraq if he wants to keep our troops there? consider it the “Last Chance, Bush, you better make it work” Bill.
M, don’t you get it? Bush is the first CEO president and as we know, all successful businesses are built on three core principles:
1. Give executives unlimited budgets;
2. Give them open-ended timelines without milestones or benchmark dates;
3. Never demand that they show progress or ever meet their goals.
By that standard, Iraq is the most successul foreign policy initiative evah in the history of the world! Woo Hoo!
Exactly, frameone, Bush deserves a golden parachute.
Frank’s right on the mark, yet again. Cheney’s speech will be interpreted as good by some and bad by others. And we can’t decide on the merits of the Global War on Terror for at least 10 years. I would say it will take about 100 years for us to truly assess whether the Iraq war was the right choice. In 2107, if the war was proven to be a wrong idea, the defeatocrats can then pass their cut-and-run bill.
Mark Noonan, Frank? Seriously? From Blogs for Bush? Well, there’s an objective opinion. I thought you were going to point out something that wasn’t written by a zombie.
And I still agree with Joe Biden WRT Dick Cheney when he said no one listens to him anymore, he has zero credibility.
duros: I was referring to Oliver’s comment that “the con echo chamber is broken – perhaps permanently?”
The blog entry appeared before Oliver’s.
And you, like Beans, can think whatever you want. But to say no one listens to him anymore, you may want to find a more objective observer than either Oliver or Sen. Biden.
Beans, if you insist on mocking me, could you at least quote me correctly. I said, “… the history of the Iraq war won’t be written for at least another decade.”
Of course, by that I meant real history, not some blogger’s half – baked opinion, or some commenter’s ill – informed chatter.
Mocking you? I’m disappointed Frank. How could you possibly think there is something in your posts to mock? Your analysis is right on the money every time. Now that I think about it, 10 years is a better time frame to evaluated the Iraq War. In 2017, the dhimmis can vote to end the war. Not before.
The blog entry appeared before Oliver’s.
So what? He’s still wrong.
Cheney has zero cred. Anyone who thinks so is just treading water.
Duros: No one but you is talking about Noonan’s objectivity. The point is that Noonan refernced the speech favorably, hours before Oliver declared the “con echo chamber broken.”
It is really no big deal.
Then drop it.
“con echo chamber broken.”
It’s not exactly broken, it’s just that only Frank and a few other dead-enders listen to it any more.
Is Dick Cheney even aware that we still have troops in Iraq?
wilbur: If you mean have I ceased to be a conservative because liberals are unhappy with VP Cheney, the answer is “Of course not.”