Comments on: Another Kirsten Powers Failure

By: Halo

Halo — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:08:10 +0000

By: J Smith

J Smith — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:59:42 +0000

Ian: Oliver, you racist pig! You racist, uh, racist black pig. Umm . . . er . . . well . . .

Yes, it is every bit as stupid as it sounds.

By: mambochicken23

mambochicken23 — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:11:27 +0000

Ian, why do you even bother getting out of bed in the morning. Do everyone a favor and retreat from the world… it’s not your friend.

Alternatively, maybe add something of worth to the discussion rather than snide jokes about people’s weight.

By: mambochicken23

mambochicken23 — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:10:22 +0000

Dugger, the first post on this board says nothing for atheist bigots, it’s true… but just because it references religious bigots doesn’t mean that Diamond was claiming that atheists are incapable of bigotry. What we are incapable of (despite what some religious folk believe) is fundamentalism in the way that Christians or Muslims are. We don’t adhere to any book, we tend to believe in science and observable phenomena rather than stories written thousands of years ago.

Additionally, I’d like to point out that atheist bigots are not causing the myriad of problems that Muslim or Christian fundamentalists are in the world. Or do you think that because we want to be free from judgment in the eye of the state that we are on the same level as the Klan, Muslim fundamentalists, or the like?

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:27:12 +0000

LOL BECAUSE HIS WEIGHT IS ABOVE AVERAGE YOU ARE TEH WITTY MR WILDE

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:27:12 +0000

The only “house” Oliver knows is the house of pancakes.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:34:20 +0000

Because that’s not what Powers’ contention was. She was saying that atheists were sucking up the media oxygen, that’s demonstrably not true. Falwell’s negative comments tend to happen when he calls a teletubby gay or blames 9/11 on liberals.

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:59:34 +0000

Making sense no longer an option, Dugger?

By: Dugger

Dugger — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:45:01 +0000

Nimmer

You can’t be helped with what you don’t have.

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:16:00 +0000

No it doesn’t.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:11:53 +0000

mambo

Thought that was clear. The very first post here excoriates religious fundamentalists ONLY for bigotry. Atheists are people of (negative) faith and are just as capable of bigotry. I may be wrong, but I believe McVeigh was either an atheist or agnostic. Bet the Unabomber was also.

And notice OWs little scorecard re Falwell Harris did not mention how many Falwell mentions were negative. That (a lot of negatives) would hardly be an advantage.

Just helping with perspective.

By: mambochicken23

mambochicken23 — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:39:29 +0000

Have you, Dugger? That’s fascinating.

What’s your point?

By: scott

scott — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:17:24 +0000

I’m a Catholic, but I’m really sick and tired of a culture where everybody has to bow and scrape and tug the forelock to faith before you have a right to be listened to. If somebody has something to say that makes sense on the merits, I don’t give a flying fuck who they pray to, if anyone.

By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy

Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:31:58 +0000

I’m not an atheist, but I do think it’s ridiculous that there’s a group of people as large as it is that literally have to conceal their beliefs in order to be electable in our society. How many atheists do you think run our Congress, have run our country? It’s simply crazy that they have to be in the closet about it.

By: Media Glutton

Media Glutton — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:08:37 +0000

I’d like Kirsten Powers to show this example of atheists “carping” in the mainstream media.

The definition of “to carp” is “to complain querulously or unreasonably.” Kirsten, show me an example of atheists “carping” in an organized manner. And after that, I’ve got a great snipe hunt you should go on

By: Dugger

Dugger — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:56:26 +0000

“I’ve met plenty of Christian and Jewish bigots, and both groups have the same prejudices as the Muslim bigots”

Me too. I’ve also met plenty of atheist bigots. How ’bout you?

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:53:53 +0000

Ian, do shut up and go away.

By: mambochicken23

mambochicken23 — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 07:14:17 +0000

Ugh… how annoying. Diamond hits it on the head. Powers seems to think that Muslim extremists are the only religious group in the world that causes problems for anyone. What an idiot. Christian fundamentalists have caused a host of problems for many people in the world, including but not limited to the Klan’s escapades, rampant persecution of homosexuals, and putting Bush in office.

No great surprise that she’s one of Fox’s token “Democrats.”

By: Ian

Ian — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:43:54 +0000

What is the term “House’s Democrat” .. What is the original use of the word “House’s ___”. You racist pig.

By: Diamond LeGrande

Diamond LeGrande — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:17:04 +0000

1) Atheists are 2% of the population? Well, it’s a little more, and there are more of us than Jews or Muslims.

2) I love how she singles out Muslims for “againstness,” for lack of a better word. I’ve met plenty of Christian and Jewish bigots, and both groups have the same prejudices as the Muslim bigots (and that includes non-fundie groups of the same overall religion). Christian fundies hate gays and atheists in particular, Jewish fundies hate Muslims and secular Jews in particular. Fundies are fundies are fundies, just file off the names. Muslims, while deluded in their belief systems, are not more deluded than Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and others.

3) While atheists are 2-3% of the population, the non-religious population is 15% of the population. Atheists, agnostics and other folks who just plain don’t go to church are in the same fight, for the most part. That’s the fight to not have our kids forced to pray and to sleep in on Sunday morning without ridicule. (I like the second part quite a bit.)

4) Carrying on point 3, you’d never think that fundie Christians are only 15% of the population the way their nonstop carping gets in the media.