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	<title>Comments on: Obama &#8216;08: Video Of Barack Obama In Selma</title>
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		<title>By: Oh Hell Yes &#187; Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-100874</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh Hell Yes &#187; Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Contrary to the way this is coming off in the press, this isn&#8217;t the first time Sen. Obama has hit this message. In fact, I would cite it as one of the elements contributing to his strength with black voters. To [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82784</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece, Oliver, and kudos for putting in your personal feelings -- which I think matter a lot, and which help make your point.
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		<title>By: jb1125</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82783</link>
		<dc:creator>jb1125</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is what happened. No interpretation. Obama Sr was a part of Tom Mboya&#039;s &quot;African Airlift.&quot; The Kennedy&#039;s paid for it.

Here&#039;s what Obama said, &quot; So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.&quot;

There&#039;s no interpretation there.

From Time Aug 29, 1960
&quot;Visiting the U.S. in July, Mboya wanted to meet both candidates. Nixon was busy in Chicago at the G.O.P. convention; Mboya sought out Jack Kennedy at his Hyannisport retreat. Concerned about the wavering U.S. Negro vote,

Kennedy offered to contribute part of the airlift expenses from his family&#039;s Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. Foundation (named after the brother killed in World War II) and to look around for other private funds to help the grounded students. Sargent Shriver, Kennedy&#039;s brother-in-law and managing director of the family foundation, found no uncommitted funds in other charitable foundations, in the end recommended that the Kennedy Foundation put up the entire $100,000, and provide unstipulated help for students during their stay in the U.S.&quot;

From Sept 11, 2006 WorldPress.org
&quot;Why has he been so successful? His deceased Kenyan father, Barack Hussein Obama, had benefited from the famous airlift of Kenyans in the 1960&#039;s, and won a scholarship to further his education in Hawaii — spearheaded by a former Kenyan cabinet minister, the late Tom Mboya.&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2488.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2488.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2488.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

From  Nov 1, 2004 The East African
&quot;Like Obama Senior, I too went to the US on the famous Tom Mboya Airlift of 1959 [when hundreds of Kenyan students were given scholarships to American universities]. I first met Obama Senior in Tom Mboya&#039;s Nairobi office [Mboya was then the secretary general of the Kenya Federation of Labour]. Obama and I met up again on returning to Nairobi and remained drinking buddies for many years.&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/01112004/Features/PA2-11.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/01112004/Features/PA2-11.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/01112004/Features/PA2-11.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what happened. No interpretation. Obama Sr was a part of Tom Mboya&#8217;s &#8220;African Airlift.&#8221; The Kennedy&#8217;s paid for it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what Obama said, &#8221; So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no interpretation there.</p>
<p>From Time Aug 29, 1960<br />
&#8220;Visiting the U.S. in July, Mboya wanted to meet both candidates. Nixon was busy in Chicago at the G.O.P. convention; Mboya sought out Jack Kennedy at his Hyannisport retreat. Concerned about the wavering U.S. Negro vote,</p>
<p>Kennedy offered to contribute part of the airlift expenses from his family&#8217;s Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. Foundation (named after the brother killed in World War II) and to look around for other private funds to help the grounded students. Sargent Shriver, Kennedy&#8217;s brother-in-law and managing director of the family foundation, found no uncommitted funds in other charitable foundations, in the end recommended that the Kennedy Foundation put up the entire $100,000, and provide unstipulated help for students during their stay in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>From Sept 11, 2006 WorldPress.org<br />
&#8220;Why has he been so successful? His deceased Kenyan father, Barack Hussein Obama, had benefited from the famous airlift of Kenyans in the 1960&#8217;s, and won a scholarship to further his education in Hawaii — spearheaded by a former Kenyan cabinet minister, the late Tom Mboya.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2488.cfm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2488.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2488.cfm</a></p>
<p>From  Nov 1, 2004 The East African<br />
&#8220;Like Obama Senior, I too went to the US on the famous Tom Mboya Airlift of 1959 [when hundreds of Kenyan students were given scholarships to American universities]. I first met Obama Senior in Tom Mboya&#8217;s Nairobi office [Mboya was then the secretary general of the Kenya Federation of Labour]. Obama and I met up again on returning to Nairobi and remained drinking buddies for many years.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/01112004/Features/PA2-11.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/01112004/Features/PA2-11.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationmedia.com/eastafrican/01112004/Features/PA2-11.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: grabbingsand</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82782</link>
		<dc:creator>grabbingsand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After doing some digging, I&#039;ve found an answer or two about this disputed timeline.  And if anyone can clarify further, go right ahead.

While it is a historical given that Kennedy didn&#039;t take office until January of 1961 (the same year that Barack, Jr. was born), it is entirely possible that the Kennedy clan was instrumental in his father&#039;s stateside arrival some years earlier.

In 1958, Tom Mboya, politician/activist/unionist from Kenya, launched a movement called Education Overseas, leading to the first educational airlift to the United States.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tommboya.com/default.asp?pg=9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;*&lt;/a&gt;

Add to this a paragraph from a 1961 TIME magazine article:

&lt;i&gt;Until now, African students have mostly got to the U.S. on their own and with enough disorganization to damage their studies. Kenya&#039;s passion, for example, led to the pell-mell &quot;African Airlift&quot; originated by Politician Tom Mboya that got so much publicity in the U.S. presidential campaign when the Kennedy Foundation beat the Eisenhower State Department to the punch with $100,000 air fare.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,872748-2,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;*&lt;/a&gt;

So it is possible that early in the Kennedy campaign, Foundation money funded an airlift that brought Barack, Sr. stateside.

Is this a perfect explanation?  No.  But it makes the reference seem less like a bold-faced fabrication and more like a broad interpretation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After doing some digging, I&#8217;ve found an answer or two about this disputed timeline.  And if anyone can clarify further, go right ahead.</p>
<p>While it is a historical given that Kennedy didn&#8217;t take office until January of 1961 (the same year that Barack, Jr. was born), it is entirely possible that the Kennedy clan was instrumental in his father&#8217;s stateside arrival some years earlier.</p>
<p>In 1958, Tom Mboya, politician/activist/unionist from Kenya, launched a movement called Education Overseas, leading to the first educational airlift to the United States.<a href="http://www.tommboya.com/default.asp?pg=9" rel="nofollow">*</a></p>
<p>Add to this a paragraph from a 1961 TIME magazine article:</p>
<p><i>Until now, African students have mostly got to the U.S. on their own and with enough disorganization to damage their studies. Kenya&#8217;s passion, for example, led to the pell-mell &#8220;African Airlift&#8221; originated by Politician Tom Mboya that got so much publicity in the U.S. presidential campaign when the Kennedy Foundation beat the Eisenhower State Department to the punch with $100,000 air fare.</i><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,872748-2,00.html" rel="nofollow">*</a></p>
<p>So it is possible that early in the Kennedy campaign, Foundation money funded an airlift that brought Barack, Sr. stateside.</p>
<p>Is this a perfect explanation?  No.  But it makes the reference seem less like a bold-faced fabrication and more like a broad interpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82781</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker- I pray that on this message that Oliver highlights, that Obama is a leader.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker- I pray that on this message that Oliver highlights, that Obama is a leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82780</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mark of a leader is the ability to get people to choose the difficult path.

If Mr. Obama&#039;s message gets results, he&#039;s a leader.
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<p>If Mr. Obama&#8217;s message gets results, he&#8217;s a leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK WW,

Heres what I see as the point. OW is saying Obama will bring in the black vote.  Technically true, but my point is that Democrats already own the black vote - around 90%.  Its theirs/yours now - pre Obama. I wish it weren&#039;t so, but it is. So maybe Obama brings a little better turnout of those voters already owned by the Democrats.

And I don&#039;t know what &quot;authentic&quot; means when applied to race.  Itself, it sounds a little nasty - racist like. Can a black who is conservative be &#039;authentic&quot;? Does it mean blacks who vote Democratic? Are liberal?  Don&#039;t like whites?  I don&#039;t care about skin color.  An idiot or a genius can be any color. I&#039;ll take Thomas Sowell over Ward Churchill every day of the week.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK WW,</p>
<p>Heres what I see as the point. OW is saying Obama will bring in the black vote.  Technically true, but my point is that Democrats already own the black vote &#8211; around 90%.  Its theirs/yours now &#8211; pre Obama. I wish it weren&#8217;t so, but it is. So maybe Obama brings a little better turnout of those voters already owned by the Democrats.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t know what &#8220;authentic&#8221; means when applied to race.  Itself, it sounds a little nasty &#8211; racist like. Can a black who is conservative be &#8216;authentic&#8221;? Does it mean blacks who vote Democratic? Are liberal?  Don&#8217;t like whites?  I don&#8217;t care about skin color.  An idiot or a genius can be any color. I&#8217;ll take Thomas Sowell over Ward Churchill every day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way Oliver- it&#039;s also authenticity that Hillary Clinton simply cannot achieve.

I&#039;m just sayin&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Oliver- it&#8217;s also authenticity that Hillary Clinton simply cannot achieve.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82777</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as someone whose father actually came to America from Nigeria when Lyndon Johnson was President, I&#039;ll still give Eisenhower credit for the program. (As I&#039;ll still give him credit for sending the troops to Little Rock...)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as someone whose father actually came to America from Nigeria when Lyndon Johnson was President, I&#8217;ll still give Eisenhower credit for the program. (As I&#8217;ll still give him credit for sending the troops to Little Rock&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82776</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Jay Tea. A couple of inconvenient lies in an otherwise outstanding speech.

Very well chosen points Oliver. Same thing Bill Cosby has been saying for the last couple of years, but I don&#039;t think Obama will get near the pushback that Cos did.

Maybe with &quot;Joshua&quot; Obama saying it, it will finally get some real traction in &quot;the community.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Jay Tea. A couple of inconvenient lies in an otherwise outstanding speech.</p>
<p>Very well chosen points Oliver. Same thing Bill Cosby has been saying for the last couple of years, but I don&#8217;t think Obama will get near the pushback that Cos did.</p>
<p>Maybe with &#8220;Joshua&#8221; Obama saying it, it will finally get some real traction in &#8220;the community.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Address the speech itself?&quot;

OK, he says his father came here under a Kennedy administration program -- in 1959. And he says his parents were inspired by the Selma marches of 1965 -- but were married in 1961, had Obama, Jr. in 1963, and separated in 1965 (later divorcing).

It was a pretty good speech, and he really did connect with the crowd. Too bad he had to fudge the hell out of the truth (much like Hillary being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the climber of Mt. Everest, despite being born six years before he achieved the summit).

But it&#039;s &quot;truthy,&quot; so I guess that makes it all right.

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Address the speech itself?&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, he says his father came here under a Kennedy administration program &#8212; in 1959. And he says his parents were inspired by the Selma marches of 1965 &#8212; but were married in 1961, had Obama, Jr. in 1963, and separated in 1965 (later divorcing).</p>
<p>It was a pretty good speech, and he really did connect with the crowd. Too bad he had to fudge the hell out of the truth (much like Hillary being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the climber of Mt. Everest, despite being born six years before he achieved the summit).</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s &#8220;truthy,&#8221; so I guess that makes it all right.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Could you guys at least address the speech itself? &lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s content vs. character. Regressives got nuthin&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Could you guys at least address the speech itself? </i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s content vs. character. Regressives got nuthin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteWhale</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82773</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteWhale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger,
Calling something &quot;B.S.&quot; doesn&#039;t make it so, if progressives wallow so much in name calling and not debating at least explain yourself.
Ian, et. al
Could you guys at least address the speech itself? I believe(and I am sure I will be corrected if wrong) the point of the post was how Obama connects with voters because he is authentic and addresses the black community in a different but compelling way. In contrast, black conservatives are not being &quot;authentic&quot;.(And PLEASE do not blame the media). It would be silly to not realize that African-Americans do have a conservative streak on certian issues but Lynn Swann is about as authentic USA t-shirt made in Tiawan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger,<br />
Calling something &#8220;B.S.&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make it so, if progressives wallow so much in name calling and not debating at least explain yourself.<br />
Ian, et. al<br />
Could you guys at least address the speech itself? I believe(and I am sure I will be corrected if wrong) the point of the post was how Obama connects with voters because he is authentic and addresses the black community in a different but compelling way. In contrast, black conservatives are not being &#8220;authentic&#8221;.(And PLEASE do not blame the media). It would be silly to not realize that African-Americans do have a conservative streak on certian issues but Lynn Swann is about as authentic USA t-shirt made in Tiawan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82772</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wally, you can take the &quot;Obama apologist&quot; hat off now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wally, you can take the &#8220;Obama apologist&#8221; hat off now.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually his father arrived right before Kennedy was sworn in. And he did not literally mean the kennedy&#039;s brought his father in. Just that his father arrived, just as Kennedy became president, so kennedy gets credit for the program that brought his father in. Same way my mum won the Green card lottery (sure you didn&#039;t even know this existed did ya) which allowed us to move here from West Africa in 1993 (during Clinton&#039;s first term). Not sure who implemented the program, but Bill Clinton gets all the credit in my household....thats how it goes....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually his father arrived right before Kennedy was sworn in. And he did not literally mean the kennedy&#8217;s brought his father in. Just that his father arrived, just as Kennedy became president, so kennedy gets credit for the program that brought his father in. Same way my mum won the Green card lottery (sure you didn&#8217;t even know this existed did ya) which allowed us to move here from West Africa in 1993 (during Clinton&#8217;s first term). Not sure who implemented the program, but Bill Clinton gets all the credit in my household&#8230;.thats how it goes&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82770</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey Dugger, I&#039;ve seen the GOP talking points too. Bring your &quot;A&quot; game here or shut up.&quot;


A.  I have never seen anybody&#039;s talking points.

B.  Your childish taunting doesn&#039;t warrant even my &#039;C&#039; game

C. How typical of the &#039;progressives&#039;, when confronted with debate, to just tell someone to shut up (global warming, anyone?).  Many of your idiot posters do it, but now you too.

And one would have thought that Congressional majority would have lessened the paranoia.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey Dugger, I&#8217;ve seen the GOP talking points too. Bring your &#8220;A&#8221; game here or shut up.&#8221;</p>
<p>A.  I have never seen anybody&#8217;s talking points.</p>
<p>B.  Your childish taunting doesn&#8217;t warrant even my &#8216;C&#8217; game</p>
<p>C. How typical of the &#8216;progressives&#8217;, when confronted with debate, to just tell someone to shut up (global warming, anyone?).  Many of your idiot posters do it, but now you too.</p>
<p>And one would have thought that Congressional majority would have lessened the paranoia.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O-Dub,

Obama said his father got here due to Kennedy. Um. He got here two years prior to Kennedy&#039;s inauguration.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O-Dub,</p>
<p>Obama said his father got here due to Kennedy. Um. He got here two years prior to Kennedy&#8217;s inauguration.</p>
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		<title>By: under Obama's spell</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82768</link>
		<dc:creator>under Obama's spell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most remarkable thing about Obama&#039;s speeches is how quiet the crowd gets--it&#039;s really pretty easy to get people to scream and cheer--it&#039;s like pavlove&#039;s dog--a few certain words and a particular audience will cheer. But he makes people actually listen and that&#039;s much more difficult to achieve.

And he never bloviates or throws out gratuitous lines.. he is serious and serene and respects the intelligence of his audience.

I truly believe that he is unique, special and destined for greatness.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most remarkable thing about Obama&#8217;s speeches is how quiet the crowd gets&#8211;it&#8217;s really pretty easy to get people to scream and cheer&#8211;it&#8217;s like pavlove&#8217;s dog&#8211;a few certain words and a particular audience will cheer. But he makes people actually listen and that&#8217;s much more difficult to achieve.</p>
<p>And he never bloviates or throws out gratuitous lines.. he is serious and serene and respects the intelligence of his audience.</p>
<p>I truly believe that he is unique, special and destined for greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched this twice on cspan today.  The man has a way of spellbinding his audience and really feeling and understanding what he is saying.
I liked that he addressed the need for us to take up where the elders to fought battles left off.  Fight for decent education and jobs and to combat an anti intellectualism (which is common in the white world as well).
The sad thing is that a little while after seeing this I saw a story where a 17 year old uncle was giving his nephews pot.  This is the combat that the Joshua generation has to fight.  A culture of apathy, selfishness and disregard for the young.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched this twice on cspan today.  The man has a way of spellbinding his audience and really feeling and understanding what he is saying.<br />
I liked that he addressed the need for us to take up where the elders to fought battles left off.  Fight for decent education and jobs and to combat an anti intellectualism (which is common in the white world as well).<br />
The sad thing is that a little while after seeing this I saw a story where a 17 year old uncle was giving his nephews pot.  This is the combat that the Joshua generation has to fight.  A culture of apathy, selfishness and disregard for the young.</p>
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		<title>By: Misplaced Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/03/04/obama-08-video-of-barack-obama-in-selma/#comment-82766</link>
		<dc:creator>Misplaced Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to other candidates, if, say, Edwards had come to this event and said the same thing, with &quot;We&quot; and &quot;Us&quot; changed to &quot;You&quot; (or unchanged, giving the impression that Edwards thought he was part of the black experience) he&#039;d no doubt not have been received so rapturously.

I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a double standard, but it is an asymmetry.

That said, when reading Obama&#039;s first book, I liked what he said about the appeal of the Nation of Islam to black Americans - namely, that it was a way to criticize black culture by claiming that all the bad things about black culture were due to evil whites.  It&#039;s one of the things I really liked about his book - that he sees the human needs that drive people to believe ideas that are wrong or counterproductive or sugar-coated.  He sees that tendency in himself, in his mother, in his grandparents.  He doesn&#039;t seem to feel contempt for those needs, but rather a kind of affection for the human capacity to survive.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to other candidates, if, say, Edwards had come to this event and said the same thing, with &#8220;We&#8221; and &#8220;Us&#8221; changed to &#8220;You&#8221; (or unchanged, giving the impression that Edwards thought he was part of the black experience) he&#8217;d no doubt not have been received so rapturously.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s a double standard, but it is an asymmetry.</p>
<p>That said, when reading Obama&#8217;s first book, I liked what he said about the appeal of the Nation of Islam to black Americans &#8211; namely, that it was a way to criticize black culture by claiming that all the bad things about black culture were due to evil whites.  It&#8217;s one of the things I really liked about his book &#8211; that he sees the human needs that drive people to believe ideas that are wrong or counterproductive or sugar-coated.  He sees that tendency in himself, in his mother, in his grandparents.  He doesn&#8217;t seem to feel contempt for those needs, but rather a kind of affection for the human capacity to survive.</p>
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