Comments on: In Which I Make Peter Beinart’s Life Easier http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:54:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83766 Jay Tea Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:29:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83766 Sigh... The point I was trying to make was that when someone who has disagreed with you gives up and accepts your argument, the smart thing to do is to graciously accept their change and welcome them. To continue to kick them is... well... "fucking stupid," as the phrase goes. I guess it makes sense if your ultimate goal is not to win the argument, but to get everyone to acknowledge that you were right. If one's motivation is ego, instead of principle, then continuing to insult those who've stopped arguing is logical. Fucking stupid, but logical. J. Sigh…

The point I was trying to make was that when someone who has disagreed with you gives up and accepts your argument, the smart thing to do is to graciously accept their change and welcome them. To continue to kick them is… well… “fucking stupid,” as the phrase goes.

I guess it makes sense if your ultimate goal is not to win the argument, but to get everyone to acknowledge that you were right. If one’s motivation is ego, instead of principle, then continuing to insult those who’ve stopped arguing is logical.

Fucking stupid, but logical.

J.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83765 Oliver Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:05:19 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83765 It's either you had a moment of stupidity and have come to some sort of realization (a good thing), or that you're too dumb to add 1 and 1 and are even dumber than you were 4 years ago. It’s either you had a moment of stupidity and have come to some sort of realization (a good thing), or that you’re too dumb to add 1 and 1 and are even dumber than you were 4 years ago.

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83764 Jay Tea Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:01:27 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83764 Let me see... I can maintain my position on the war (supporting it) and Oliver will call me "fucking stupid," or I can renounce it and Oliver will call me "fucking stupid." Gosh, it's a good thing I don't take Oliver into consideration when I think about... well, anything. J. Let me see… I can maintain my position on the war (supporting it) and Oliver will call me “fucking stupid,” or I can renounce it and Oliver will call me “fucking stupid.”

Gosh, it’s a good thing I don’t take Oliver into consideration when I think about… well, anything.

J.

]]> By: August J. Pollak - xoverboard.com http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83767 August J. Pollak - xoverboard.com Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:40:13 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83767 <strong>I walked into a door</strong> Oliver, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, suggests that stupidity was behind the original support for the Iraq war. I wish it was that easy, but that's not the case. Many smart people wanted to go to war, and took pride not only in... I walked into a door

Oliver, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, suggests that stupidity was behind the original support for the Iraq war. I wish it was that easy, but that’s not the case. Many smart people wanted to go to war, and took pride not only in…

]]> By: Repack Rider http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83763 Repack Rider Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:55:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83763 Why isn't Beinert working in a position where his decision making ability is better suited? I'm thinking that would be in the area of viands handed out a window to drivers who have placed their orders with a mechanical clown. Why isn’t Beinert working in a position where his decision making ability is better suited?

I’m thinking that would be in the area of viands handed out a window to drivers who have placed their orders with a mechanical clown.

]]> By: fightingdem http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83762 fightingdem Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:40:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83762 Dude, that's five words. And, it seems, we're never going to get past this with these people. I just wish we could stop wasting our time getting them to acknowledge they fucked up, step aside and let the adults in the room (the people who were right from the start) get to the business of making things right. The Republicans depress me but the idiots on our side make me want jump in front of a moving bus. Dude, that’s five words.

And, it seems, we’re never going to get past this with these people. I just wish we could stop wasting our time getting them to acknowledge they fucked up, step aside and let the adults in the room (the people who were right from the start) get to the business of making things right. The Republicans depress me but the idiots on our side make me want jump in front of a moving bus.

]]> By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83761 midderpidge Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:52:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83761 Yeah, to believe that, Dugger, they would have depended on the honesty of George W. Bush. Silly bastards. Yeah, to believe that, Dugger, they would have depended on the honesty of George W. Bush. Silly bastards.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/23/in-which-i-make-peter-beinarts-life-easier/#comment-83760 Dugger Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:16:37 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=6874#comment-83760 At least, like John Edwards, you don't seem to be buying into the face saving, jellyfish position of some Democrats who claim their 'yes' war vote really wasn't a war vote. Anybody who buys into that line of BS would seem to discredit those did vote against the war. At least, like John Edwards, you don’t seem to be buying into the face saving, jellyfish position of some Democrats who claim their ‘yes’ war vote really wasn’t a war vote. Anybody who buys into that line of BS would seem to discredit those did vote against the war.

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