Comments on: Obama ‘08: The Black Vote

By: katpop

katpop — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:37:48 +0000

Hillary is dirty and someone needs to tell her that she may be able to buy one man’s vote, but the “black vote” as a whole is NOT FOR SALE!

to even suggest it is racial

GO OBAMA!

By: Adam Herman

Adam Herman — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:10:40 +0000

But what about Hillary Clinton? She leads Obama among black voters. And it’s not just lack of name recognition. Obama’s disapproval among African-Americans is higher than Clinton’s. So even if every single black voter that doesn’t have an opinion of Obama likes him, Clinton will STILL be more popular.

Now to me, rejecting a black candidate in favor of a white candidate would do more to enhance black voter power than falling lockstep behind a black candidate.

By: kent

kent — Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:43:03 +0000

As a mullatto Doubloon halfrican who once dreamed of being the first Black president, I second Oliver’s emotion.

As a much more radically positioned individual, I came to realize that they shoot people like me if we get anywhere near the reigns of power. So I took what I understand to be a cowardly approach and have attempted to work the game from the sidelines.

The finest live and in realtime speechifying I have had the pleasure to witness has been Obama and Obama, democratic convention ‘04 and his announcement in Springfield. Dayum!

Stark, I tend to doubt yer cred…………..If Obama gets the nomination, no one is gonna vote for the dude because he is black, people will vote against him ’cause he’s black.

But I won’t be suprised by a reprise of ‘68. And the old 0 curse (dodged by reagan) will become the curse of 40.
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By: m $ m

m $ m — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:12:15 +0000

Bill Clinton spoke ebonics?

I missed that one.

By: mdhåtter

mdhåtter — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:45:37 +0000

I can easily think of another hero of the ‘black community’. Barak Obama’s father, whose blackness has nothing to do with being a good father to his son. That man is only a hero of someone elses community – if you say so.

By: StarkyLuv

StarkyLuv — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:33:52 +0000

I just dislike the idea of a black person voting for another black person just because he’s black.

As an African-American, Obama is second (and a close second) to Edwards on my Presidential list. Edwards is just much more direct with his answers and Obama just tries to be too damn slick. He, like Hilary are TERRIFIED of offending the right-wing. That’s a trait I dislike.

By: pedromd07

pedromd07 — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:28:44 +0000

Excellent. Now america should go about electing the president that will promote one group’s or anothers self-esteem!

How about we worry about voting for the candidate that will be the best for america?

Obama has a long way to go to prove that he is THAT man.

By: Sabutai

Sabutai — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:41:58 +0000

Do all women vote? Do all Hispanics?

If you want a sea change effect on the electorate, then Obama has nothing on Richardson. Richardson is getting to a point where he can sling the rhetoric, and bringing the Hispanic vote firmly into our coalition would be a much more significant game-changer than increasing African-American support at the margins.

By: Dkelsmith

Dkelsmith — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:31:33 +0000

@ vwcat

I don’t think there is anything wrong with your first four words, but I find it hard to believe that you don’t feel that there is a black person that can inspire a black child. Your quote was, “I felt it so wrong that there is not really anyone who can be held up to a black child as the reason to strive. other than sports and music what is there. There is a lot more out there than sports and music. Number one for my children, there is me. Being a rifle platoon leader is not nearly as glamorous as some other jobs, but motivating and inspiring my children is MY job, not the job of some person they see on television. I am not trying to be harsh, but I find it hard to believe you can’t think of any black “famous” positive role models aside from Condoleeza Rice.

By: mdhåtter

mdhåtter — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:18:49 +0000

vwcat – “As a white person I have felt it …. ”

ok, as another white person, allow me to politely ask you to not start sentences with that phrase.

I do see your point, – that there is a shortage of role models in Obama’s community. But that’s true even if you were a ‘fictional’ person, or if Obama were Kazakstani and growing up in Chcago with a funny name.

I don’t mean to be harsh, or I do, but constructively so. I agree with everything you said, except for the first 4 words of your post.

That’s hope.

By: vwcat

vwcat — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:27:32 +0000

As a white person I have felt it so wrong that there is not really anyone who can be held up to a black child as the reason to strive. other than sports and music what is there. Condi? But, when I was at Springfield and caught a glimpse of Barack I was struck as I have been before, that this man should and needs to be president. It’s more than race. He makes us believe in hope and we can. He makes us want to use up shoe leather for him. He makes us cry. There is something about this man that touches everyone and even the ones who want to smear, it doesn’t stick. Because we won’t let it.
I believe Hillary would be a disaster for this party and the country. she is DLC
Barack Obama touches us inside. All races and party lines. I have heard republicans wanting to vote for him. They get pissed at fellow repugs who smear him. Obama has crossover appeal. Because he has a greatness that is intangible. But, you know he would be a great president. Like FDR. Or Kennedy.
And then, there is Michelle….she is even more potent a force. As first lady women would emulate her and we, as women could hold her up as someone for our daughters. She is what we always imagined a first lady should be like.
And the two of them would both be role models for blacks of both sexes everywhere.

By: Pug

Pug — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:53:31 +0000

I hear that thiing abouut Obma not being popular with black folks all the time. Sometimes it’s presented as a genrational thing–African American boomers like Clinton and the younger voters like Obama. Who Knows? My limmited experience in the NW urban area I live in is that Obama is the rack star of black voters of all ages. I think the more Obama gets attacked, the better. Everytime the righhtwinngers nuts try to make something of his name or his background or his religion, I cheer. One HUGE advantage Obama has over the other Democrats is tht attacks on him seem to boomerang back on the attacker.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:29:53 +0000

I think the same applied to Jesse Jackson too, but it’s good that the party also has a woman and Latino candidate who are capable of getting elected and governing.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:26:00 +0000

Obama would make a great inspiration for kids–a heck of a lot better than Allen Iverson or some such.

Calling Mr. Cosby. Mr. Cosby? You’re wanted on line 2.

By: RedBastardGod

RedBastardGod — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:46:32 +0000

I saw a piece in the TV news, BBC I think, on the big two Democratic candidates, Clinton and Obama both being from Illinois. They interviewed members of a local church who said if given the choice between the two, that most would vote for Hillary. Mainly based on the track record of her husband. The point the TV bit was making was that Clinton is more popular with blacks and Obama is more popular with whites.

Interesting.

By: mdhåtter

mdhåtter — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:54:40 +0000

not to mention millions of Kenyans.

I hadn’t thought about the Obama factor on the apathetic vote. Even 2% is huge these days.