Comments on: The “Articulate” Smear http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:52:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86035 Nimrod Gently Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:14:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86035 "You're into this, you're black." "...You <i>sound </i>black." "...Where are you from?" “You’re into this, you’re black.”

“…You sound black.”

“…Where are you from?”

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86034 Duros62 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:54:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86034 I don't care who you know, it's difficult for me to say the same thing about the president. "Articulate" to me means someone can string words together to form sentences without droolong on themsleves. Bad choice of words. No question about it. "he is so articulate for a black man, it scares me". Does that mean "he don't sound black"? feh. I don’t care who you know, it’s difficult for me to say the same thing about the president.

“Articulate” to me means someone can string words together to form sentences without droolong on themsleves.

Bad choice of words. No question about it.

“he is so articulate for a black man, it scares me”.

Does that mean “he don’t sound black”?
feh.

]]> By: Fat Bastard http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86033 Fat Bastard Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:04:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86033 SO many better things to have said... "He's a brilliant orator," or "posessed of phenomenal rhetorical skills." "Articulate" is what you say about someone you <i>expected</i> to be stupid as a carp out of water. And that's what most white Americans expect of black men. FB SO many better things to have said… “He’s a brilliant orator,” or “posessed of phenomenal rhetorical skills.”

“Articulate” is what you say about someone you expected to be stupid as a carp out of water.

And that’s what most white Americans expect of black men.

FB

]]> By: Michelle http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86032 Michelle Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:21:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86032 This is what my republican dad said about Deval Patrick too - as in, "he is so articulate for a black man, it scares me". This is what my republican dad said about Deval Patrick too - as in, “he is so articulate for a black man, it scares me”.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86031 Duros62 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:13:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86031 Bruce is right. We're getting played by the media. Again. I feel so ashamed. Bruce is right. We’re getting played by the media. Again.
I feel so ashamed.

]]> By: Bruce Dixon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86030 Bruce Dixon Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:59:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86030 Shame on us for pretending like we HAVE to even discuss it. Isn't succumbing to a temptation like that allowing the corporate mainstream media to guide us in how we talk about Senator O? Isn't it a big enough clue, when Rush Limbaugh and the gang want to spend time with it, that we should be investing time some $$@# place else? At Black Agenda Report, www.blackagendareport.com, we are trying to do just that. This week's issue analyzes the health care speech Obama gave in late January, comparing it to his avowed positions as an Illinois state legislator, back in the days when he wanted to be seen as pro-single payer. We also juxtapose his "universal health care" rhetoric with the statement in that speech that California's so-called "arnie-care" is an "interesting" alternative, by explaining some of the highly regressive positions of that measure. It's at <a href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackagendareport.com/</a></a> Stop by and show us some love, mister. Shame on us for pretending like we HAVE to even discuss it. Isn’t succumbing to a temptation like that allowing the corporate mainstream media to guide us in how we talk about Senator O? Isn’t it a big enough clue, when Rush Limbaugh and the gang want to spend time with it, that we should be investing time some $$@# place else?

At Black Agenda Report, http://www.blackagendareport.com, we are trying to do just that. This week’s issue analyzes the health care speech Obama gave in late January, comparing it to his avowed positions as an Illinois state legislator, back in the days when he wanted to be seen as pro-single payer. We also juxtapose his “universal health care” rhetoric with the statement in that speech that California’s so-called “arnie-care” is an “interesting” alternative, by explaining some of the highly regressive positions of that measure.

It’s at http://www.blackagendareport.com/

Stop by and show us some love, mister.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86029 Nimrod Gently Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:18:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86029 Joe Biden plagarised Ian Duncan Smith? Joe Biden plagarised Ian Duncan Smith?

]]> By: Yudel http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86028 Yudel Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:12:28 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86028 What I really don't get is that if you had asked me in '88 who was the most "articulate" Democratic candidate, and which candidate could make best use of the podium were he to be the nominee, I would have quickly answered Jesse Jackson. He was giving great speeches while Joe Biden was plagiarizing from mediocre Brits. What I really don’t get is that if you had asked me in ‘88 who was the most “articulate” Democratic candidate, and which candidate could make best use of the podium were he to be the nominee, I would have quickly answered Jesse Jackson.

He was giving great speeches while Joe Biden was plagiarizing from mediocre Brits.

]]> By: terry http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86027 terry Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:23:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86027 Apart from the implicit racial condescension, isn't the real problem that Biden and Dumbya are using the wrong word? Eloquent,charasmatic, brilliant, erudite, passionate, would all seem like better words to describe Obama's rhetorical skills. As noted articulate describes a good many politicians who do not have Obama's talent. Apart from the implicit racial condescension, isn’t the real problem that Biden and Dumbya are using the wrong word? Eloquent,charasmatic, brilliant, erudite, passionate, would all seem like better words to describe Obama’s rhetorical skills. As noted articulate describes a good many politicians who do not have Obama’s talent.

]]> By: terry http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86026 terry Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:22:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86026 Apart from the implicit racial condescension, isn't the real problem that Biden and Dumbya are using the wrong word? Eloquent,charasmatic, brilliant, erudite, passionate, would all seem like better words to describe Obama's rhetorical skills. As noted articulate describes a good many politicians who do not have Obama's talent. Apart from the implicit racial condescension, isn’t the real problem that Biden and Dumbya are using the wrong word? Eloquent,charasmatic, brilliant, erudite, passionate, would all seem like better words to describe Obama’s rhetorical skills. As noted articulate describes a good many politicians who do not have Obama’s talent.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86025 Duros62 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:36:31 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86025 JA. is some other comedian using that term now? I was just talking to Frank about this. Why is it important to point out that a black person is articulate? How many white guys do we describe thusly? I mean, isn't effective communication part of the job description for a politician? Is he articulate because he doesn't say "fo shizzle" during speeches? Because he talks like a white d00d? John Kerry is articulate. Mind-crushingly <b>boring</b>, but articulate. Barney Frank, not so much. Just asking. ;-) JA. is some other comedian using that term now?

I was just talking to Frank about this. Why is it important to point out that a black person is articulate? How many white guys do we describe thusly? I mean, isn’t effective communication part of the job description for a politician? Is he articulate because he doesn’t say “fo shizzle” during speeches? Because he talks like a white d00d?
John Kerry is articulate. Mind-crushingly boring, but articulate. Barney Frank, not so much.

Just asking. ;-)

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86024 Nimrod Gently Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:33:22 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86024 See the Biden thread for the answer. Or turn the page upside-down. See the Biden thread for the answer. Or turn the page upside-down.

]]> By: JewishAtheist http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86023 JewishAtheist Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:18:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86023 What do you think of Limbaugh et al's use of "Halfrican American" to describe Obama? What do you think of Limbaugh et al’s use of “Halfrican American” to describe Obama?

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/02/01/the-articulate-smear/#comment-86022 Duros62 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:06:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=7028#comment-86022 Bush saying someone is articulate. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Bush saying someone is articulate.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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