Comments on: Obama ‘08: Are We On The Cusp?

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:11:12 +0000

Gee, Quaker did I say “white” and “black” OOooooH!

When I said “blacks already vote for Democrats”, did I say anything Oliver hasn’t said for years?

How will there ever be a discussion about race, when there is only one “approved” point of view?

Are you saying there are no white liberals? Are you saying there’s no such thing as White Guilt?

Are you saying that blacks don’t vote 90% or more for Democrats in national elections?

I think you can forget about your last false accusation that I was a racist, and move on.

And this one won’t wash, either.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:47:53 +0000

Your words are your words. “White liberals”, “White guilt”, “blacks already vote for Democrats”.

If that’s not race baiting, what does race baiting actually look like?

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:13:21 +0000

Quaker: Spare me. We played this game before, and you lost that time. I don’t want your reluctant apology three days from now.
If you don’t know what I mean, ask me. If you think you know what I mean, why belabor it?

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:48:56 +0000

Only white liberals will vote for him out of him due to “white guilt”.

Blacks already vote for Democrats,

But you “won’t be race-baited”?

Rich.

By: Zython

Zython — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:45:51 +0000

There is a name for speakers that give people “inspiration, hope and longing.”

Demagogues

This from a guy who supports George W. “Guy You Would Want to Have a Beer With” Bush. High-larious!

Before we get off on the wrong track, let me say it now: I am not a racist. I will no longer entertain or defend myself from those charges.

When we liberals say that when you accuse us of being terrorists, you tried to spin it to it being a confession of being terrorists. So, by logic, you must therefore be a racist, unless you and other conservatives were *gasp* wrong (Dah Dah DAAAAAAAAAH).

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:14:35 +0000

inspiration, hope and longing.

There is a name for speakers that give people “inspiration, hope and longing.”

Demagogues

By: vwcat

vwcat — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:20:35 +0000

I am a white person and I am not supporting Obama out of guilt. I have voted for other black candidates before. I really do not care.
If I like what a person is saying and doing I just like them. I believe it’s the same with alot of people now.
I saw the faces of the people in Iowa after he spoke. That was not guilt. that was inspiration, hope and longing.
Besides, as a woman I should be rooting for Hillary if the pundits are to be believed. I cannot stand that corporate insider witch.
Pundits are too blind to see and too smug in their own rightness to see what is really going on in the country.

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:35:47 +0000

If he were a conservative, I wouldn’t care if he smoked opium, as long as he dreamed of lowering taxes, cutting the budget, and leaving Americans alone.

By: Constantine

Constantine — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:53:03 +0000

I would not mind seeing Obama as president. I think he’d make a good president. However, one of the only things that sets Obama apart from other potential Democratic nominees is his “rock star” presence. Edwards, IMHO, actually is the person that we think Obama represents.

As far as smoking goes, the other thing Obama seems to (perhaps in collusion with the press) conspicuously avoid being photographed having a cigarette, much like the way FDR and the press colluded to avoid being pictured in a wheelchair or using braces.

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:09:34 +0000

And I see you’re rolling out the anti-Obama conspiracies early.

What conspiracy? He’s either involved with a crook, or he is not. There’s no conspiracy.

Are is the new Democratic meme going to be that whenever you speak negatively of a Democrat, you’re engaged in a conspiracy?

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:06:12 +0000

I have been instructed by Oliver to answer when asked that question, “Blacks don’t vote for conservatives.”
Don’t believe me ?? Ask him.

As I said — I will not repeat it — I will not be race baited.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:02:11 +0000

Mr. Obama is a conventional liberal. Despite Mike’s 100 conservative (?) farmers *, he will only get liberal votes.

But you said only black people and white liberals will vote for him. You’re not suggesting that black voters are all liberals are you?

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:55:14 +0000

fd, Oliver was slamming PJmedia for being hypocritical. Also, Republicans did hate him, Ronald Reagan among them. That some of them now praise him…well, let’s just say I don’t believe them.

By: Internet's Frank

Internet's Frank — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:43:16 +0000

I thought MLK was tomorrow? Oh well, happy MLK Day then.

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:07:49 +0000

Perhaps because its hypocritical to ignore racial issues the other 364 days a year but bless the peacemaker on just one day.
a) You don’t ignore racial issues
b) Your comments on Dr. King seem to be limited to pointing out your belief that Republicans hated him. Not mentioning that Republicans praise him is not hypocritical – it shows a lack of integrity.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:58:02 +0000

Perhaps because its hypocritical to ignore racial issues the other 364 days a year but bless the peacemaker on just one day.

And I see you’re rolling out the anti-Obama conspiracies early.

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:21:40 +0000

I also think it's interesting that Pajamas Media, the blog that he was bombing last week, directs us here today. Oliver's comments on Martin Luther King, Jr. today =

By: fd10801

fd10801 — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:07:52 +0000

What are you saying? That American voters will make their decision on the basis of race over party or policy?
Isn’t it amazing how one’s reading comprehension fails when it comes to race?
Mr. Obama is a conventional liberal. Despite Mike’s 100 conservative (?) farmers *, he will only get liberal votes. That didn’t win for either Kerry or Gore, now did it?

Before we get off on the wrong track, let me say it now: I am not a racist. I will no longer entertain or defend myself from those charges.

The number of people who won’t vote for him because he is black is negligible. They are not the reason he will not win. I would not support Condoleezza Rice for President if I was a racist, nor would I if I thought a black woman could not win.

And, Mr. Obama has something else to worry about.

* In liberal parlance, “real conservatives” are liberals.

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:59:33 +0000

This is worth pondering, particularly for Dugger and Frank and others who will never question the President on anything, ever. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6817201

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:44:57 +0000

Who was the last President who was a smoker?

How could I have forgotten? Clinton. Cigars!!

I’d say Obama has no problems as long as he uses those cigarettes only for their intended purpose.