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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54290</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, Jody.
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54289</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I haven&#039;t checked in. I&#039;ve been travelling. I&#039;m a bit surprised to see this still on Oliver&#039;s front page.

What I am not surprised about, however, is fd&#039;s three posts about how we are not worth his time.

Matches up nicely with everything I&#039;ve said, don&#039;t you think?

The stubbornness. The pettiness. The hypocrisy. It&#039;s all there, the heart and soul of their entire movement, for anyone who&#039;s willing to see.

The only thing that gives me hope is that apparently people are STARTING to see.

After twenty five years of batshit insanity, people are starting to notice what happens when you allow a bunch of sociopathic flaming ideologues anywhere near the levers of power.

One can only hope this is the start of a genuine return of the pendulum towards sanity.

I for one will not afford anyone who expresses the sort of viewpoints demonstrated by fd or his halfwit friends the least amount of respect ever again. They shit the bed-hell-they shit the bed so much there&#039;s now far more shit than bed, now they must sleep in it. Maybe some of them will learn from their mistakes the way the rest of us FUCKING KNEW ALL ALONG, but frankly I have a feeling we&#039;ll just have to wait for many of them to just age into irrelevance.

And of course there are still a lot of them out there, popping hillbilly heroin and spewing their bile across the AM dial, on Fox News, in our government. We still have a long way to go.

But people have now seen what happens when &#039;the grownups&#039; are in charge.

I only hope the damage isn&#039;t beyond repair.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I haven&#8217;t checked in. I&#8217;ve been travelling. I&#8217;m a bit surprised to see this still on Oliver&#8217;s front page.</p>
<p>What I am not surprised about, however, is fd&#8217;s three posts about how we are not worth his time.</p>
<p>Matches up nicely with everything I&#8217;ve said, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>The stubbornness. The pettiness. The hypocrisy. It&#8217;s all there, the heart and soul of their entire movement, for anyone who&#8217;s willing to see.</p>
<p>The only thing that gives me hope is that apparently people are STARTING to see.</p>
<p>After twenty five years of batshit insanity, people are starting to notice what happens when you allow a bunch of sociopathic flaming ideologues anywhere near the levers of power.</p>
<p>One can only hope this is the start of a genuine return of the pendulum towards sanity.</p>
<p>I for one will not afford anyone who expresses the sort of viewpoints demonstrated by fd or his halfwit friends the least amount of respect ever again. They shit the bed-hell-they shit the bed so much there&#8217;s now far more shit than bed, now they must sleep in it. Maybe some of them will learn from their mistakes the way the rest of us FUCKING KNEW ALL ALONG, but frankly I have a feeling we&#8217;ll just have to wait for many of them to just age into irrelevance.</p>
<p>And of course there are still a lot of them out there, popping hillbilly heroin and spewing their bile across the AM dial, on Fox News, in our government. We still have a long way to go.</p>
<p>But people have now seen what happens when &#8216;the grownups&#8217; are in charge.</p>
<p>I only hope the damage isn&#8217;t beyond repair.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54288</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on, Frank, don&#039;t be like that.
Personally, I thought that comments was over the top. Still pretty funny if you can look at it from a distance, but perhaps we don&#039;t have to go there.
You know?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on, Frank, don&#8217;t be like that.<br />
Personally, I thought that comments was over the top. Still pretty funny if you can look at it from a distance, but perhaps we don&#8217;t have to go there.<br />
You know?</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54287</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fd10801 &#124; Jan 10, 2007 8:20:04 AM
&quot;I have chosen not to say any more to you -- or Baby s, or Jody, or Duros. You&#039;re no longer worth it.&quot;

Until the next time Frank feels compelled to comment ... one last time.  :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fd10801 | Jan 10, 2007 8:20:04 AM<br />
&#8220;I have chosen not to say any more to you &#8212; or Baby s, or Jody, or Duros. You&#8217;re no longer worth it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until the next time Frank feels compelled to comment &#8230; one last time.  <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54286</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually &quot;pepperoni&quot; zython, what I was thinking was that Duros was possibly a &lt;i&gt;mensch&lt;/i&gt;, and now I am somewhat disappointed that he finds any humor at all in the juvenile stalker known as &quot;s&quot;.

You see, &quot;s&quot; isn&#039;t funny or clever -- he is a puny, insignificant person, so useless to this thread, that he has yet to post a comment in a year.

You, on the other, I have known to be a &lt;i&gt;schmekel&lt;/i&gt; for some time. You have  posted a comment or two from time to time, but of late, you have been reduced to following me around saying bad things about me -- hardly a sign of intelligence -- like your ridiculous &quot;partner in crime&quot;, Jody.

It is amazing to me how fast the flame comes on when you run out of things to say.

You see, I have not run out of things to say -- I have chosen not to say any more to you -- or Baby s, or Jody, or Duros.

You&#039;re no longer worth it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually &#8220;pepperoni&#8221; zython, what I was thinking was that Duros was possibly a <i>mensch</i>, and now I am somewhat disappointed that he finds any humor at all in the juvenile stalker known as &#8220;s&#8221;.</p>
<p>You see, &#8220;s&#8221; isn&#8217;t funny or clever &#8212; he is a puny, insignificant person, so useless to this thread, that he has yet to post a comment in a year.</p>
<p>You, on the other, I have known to be a <i>schmekel</i> for some time. You have  posted a comment or two from time to time, but of late, you have been reduced to following me around saying bad things about me &#8212; hardly a sign of intelligence &#8212; like your ridiculous &#8220;partner in crime&#8221;, Jody.</p>
<p>It is amazing to me how fast the flame comes on when you run out of things to say.</p>
<p>You see, I have not run out of things to say &#8212; I have chosen not to say any more to you &#8212; or Baby s, or Jody, or Duros.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re no longer worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54285</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor wittle Fwanky can&#039;t take it that we point out that his shifting the burden of proof is total BS.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor wittle Fwanky can&#8217;t take it that we point out that his shifting the burden of proof is total BS.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54284</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>s: I&#039;m sorry that there is so little going on in your life, that you can&#039;t even watch the news, or read a book, or read a newspaper, or read another blog, to come up with one comment in a whole year.

I can only ask one final question: Do you have a crush on me?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>s: I&#8217;m sorry that there is so little going on in your life, that you can&#8217;t even watch the news, or read a book, or read a newspaper, or read another blog, to come up with one comment in a whole year.</p>
<p>I can only ask one final question: Do you have a crush on me?</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54283</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Duros, I guess if think that was clever that says more about you than him.

And I thought you had some integrity. You&#039;re just one of all the other cowards on this blog, who can flame me relentlessly, while &quot;Baby &#039;s&#039;&quot; has failed to comment an anything ever, except to annoy me, and not one of you has the balls to call him on it.

I guess that would be treating me too good, eh?

For what it&#039;s worth, Duros, you&#039;ve just shown yourself to be a punk just like him.

Congratulations.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Duros, I guess if think that was clever that says more about you than him.</p>
<p>And I thought you had some integrity. You&#8217;re just one of all the other cowards on this blog, who can flame me relentlessly, while &#8220;Baby &#8216;s&#8217;&#8221; has failed to comment an anything ever, except to annoy me, and not one of you has the balls to call him on it.</p>
<p>I guess that would be treating me too good, eh?</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Duros, you&#8217;ve just shown yourself to be a punk just like him.</p>
<p>Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54282</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;One would think a 60 year old tranny chasing Vietnam vet would have a far more articulate point of view and arguments with substance.
Posted by: S &#124; Jan 6, 2007 4:02:20 PM&lt;/i&gt;


&lt;b&gt;OOOOHHH, SNAP!!!&lt;/b&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One would think a 60 year old tranny chasing Vietnam vet would have a far more articulate point of view and arguments with substance.<br />
Posted by: S | Jan 6, 2007 4:02:20 PM</i></p>
<p><b>OOOOHHH, SNAP!!!</b></p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54281</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you talking about me in the third person?
Who do you imagine you are addressing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you talking about me in the third person?<br />
Who do you imagine you are addressing?</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54280</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I especially enjoy the way fd tells me I&#039;m coming off as a world class a-hole a buffoon, and a scatterbrained lunatic,  then in his very next post makes a plea for comity.

...In much the same fashion that the Republicans, now that they no longer control all three branches of the government, are telling the Dems that they should play nice.

After telling the nation that bipartisanship was date rape.

After saying that the dems will calm down and get accustomed to their minority status &#039;like a neutered animal&#039;.

These assholes do not understand civility; only civility towards themselves. Everyone else can go fuck themselves with a rusty pipe cleaner. And they say as much.

But as soon as someone so much calls out their hideous, flaming bullshit catapult, it&#039;s pearl-clutching fainting-couch hanky-grabbing time.

And the press falls for it.

The politics of victimization is what&#039;s kept the right wing mobilized for decades now. They didn&#039;t even bother to sideline it while they controlled all three branches of government, and railed about how the mean ol&#039; Dems were keeping them down by only allowing all of their legislation thru except the one where they told the eldery that cat food was a fine meal replacement.

And NOW it&#039;s &quot;waaah, those mean ol&#039; Dems might not allow Bush to ship MORE of our kids off to the war which EVERYONE KNOWS WAS A LIE AND THE WORST MISTAKE OF OUR GENERATION simply so he can save face and pass the blame of &#039;retreat&#039; on to the next guy!!!! Sob...&quot;

I really. REALLY. Want to know why these people want to destroy our country so bad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I especially enjoy the way fd tells me I&#8217;m coming off as a world class a-hole a buffoon, and a scatterbrained lunatic,  then in his very next post makes a plea for comity.</p>
<p>&#8230;In much the same fashion that the Republicans, now that they no longer control all three branches of the government, are telling the Dems that they should play nice.</p>
<p>After telling the nation that bipartisanship was date rape.</p>
<p>After saying that the dems will calm down and get accustomed to their minority status &#8216;like a neutered animal&#8217;.</p>
<p>These assholes do not understand civility; only civility towards themselves. Everyone else can go fuck themselves with a rusty pipe cleaner. And they say as much.</p>
<p>But as soon as someone so much calls out their hideous, flaming bullshit catapult, it&#8217;s pearl-clutching fainting-couch hanky-grabbing time.</p>
<p>And the press falls for it.</p>
<p>The politics of victimization is what&#8217;s kept the right wing mobilized for decades now. They didn&#8217;t even bother to sideline it while they controlled all three branches of government, and railed about how the mean ol&#8217; Dems were keeping them down by only allowing all of their legislation thru except the one where they told the eldery that cat food was a fine meal replacement.</p>
<p>And NOW it&#8217;s &#8220;waaah, those mean ol&#8217; Dems might not allow Bush to ship MORE of our kids off to the war which EVERYONE KNOWS WAS A LIE AND THE WORST MISTAKE OF OUR GENERATION simply so he can save face and pass the blame of &#8216;retreat&#8217; on to the next guy!!!! Sob&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I really. REALLY. Want to know why these people want to destroy our country so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54279</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The problem, as I described it above, is that Democrats can&#039;t bring themselves to oppose our enemy -- mainly because there is no country they hate more than America, and no ideology they mistrust more than capitalist republican democracy.&lt;/i&gt;

Frankie-boy has yet to own up to this little gem of idiocy. You have yet to prove this as a valid statement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The problem, as I described it above, is that Democrats can&#8217;t bring themselves to oppose our enemy &#8212; mainly because there is no country they hate more than America, and no ideology they mistrust more than capitalist republican democracy.</i></p>
<p>Frankie-boy has yet to own up to this little gem of idiocy. You have yet to prove this as a valid statement.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54278</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor, poor Frank.  He just doesn&#039;t get it.

He comments on virtually Every. Single. Thread.  When someone disagrees with him, they receive his wrath.

How&#039;s the posting/tranny chasing multi tasking working for ya, Frank?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor, poor Frank.  He just doesn&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>He comments on virtually Every. Single. Thread.  When someone disagrees with him, they receive his wrath.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s the posting/tranny chasing multi tasking working for ya, Frank?</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54277</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you keep referring to me in the third person?
And I didn&#039;t imply you were a drug addict. I said you seemed to be on drugs. Whether or not you are an addict is up to you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you keep referring to me in the third person?<br />
And I didn&#8217;t imply you were a drug addict. I said you seemed to be on drugs. Whether or not you are an addict is up to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54276</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice how all he has to do to stop the madness is to stop trolling in here, but he can&#039;t bring himself to do it. He NEEDS to get the last word. And no doubt he will, weeks from now, when this discussion has long migrated off the front page and he sneaks in to get one final, snotty comment, unnoticed by any except his fellow trolls, for whom he will approvingly link this thread and point out how his superior debating tactics left me mute. Perhaps he will copy and paste it for them in one of their forums, removing the time and date stamps at the end of each post, thereby destroying the evidence. Who can tell.

All I&#039;ve been DOING is levelling with him; pointing out how counterproductive his entire side has been for this entire debacle.

He implies I&#039;m a drug addict. The condition his side of the aisle has left this country in makes me wish I WAS one, and that this was all one long, horrible trip, from which I shall soon awaken.

But it isn&#039;t, and I&#039;m not. The president he voted for, along with the congress he voted for, have turned this country into a shadow of it&#039;s former self. They&#039;ve dumped us into a long national nightmare from which, with luck, we have begun to awaken from. But it will take decades to undo all the damage they&#039;ve wrought.

And yet he thinks he deserves some respect from me. From our side of the aisle. After coming in here and trolling, no less.

Just shows you how far we&#039;ve sunk as a nation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice how all he has to do to stop the madness is to stop trolling in here, but he can&#8217;t bring himself to do it. He NEEDS to get the last word. And no doubt he will, weeks from now, when this discussion has long migrated off the front page and he sneaks in to get one final, snotty comment, unnoticed by any except his fellow trolls, for whom he will approvingly link this thread and point out how his superior debating tactics left me mute. Perhaps he will copy and paste it for them in one of their forums, removing the time and date stamps at the end of each post, thereby destroying the evidence. Who can tell.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;ve been DOING is levelling with him; pointing out how counterproductive his entire side has been for this entire debacle.</p>
<p>He implies I&#8217;m a drug addict. The condition his side of the aisle has left this country in makes me wish I WAS one, and that this was all one long, horrible trip, from which I shall soon awaken.</p>
<p>But it isn&#8217;t, and I&#8217;m not. The president he voted for, along with the congress he voted for, have turned this country into a shadow of it&#8217;s former self. They&#8217;ve dumped us into a long national nightmare from which, with luck, we have begun to awaken from. But it will take decades to undo all the damage they&#8217;ve wrought.</p>
<p>And yet he thinks he deserves some respect from me. From our side of the aisle. After coming in here and trolling, no less.</p>
<p>Just shows you how far we&#8217;ve sunk as a nation.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
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		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me level with you, jody. You&#039;re really coming off here as a world - class a-hole.

If you think impressing &quot;s&quot; is any better than pissing in a hurricane, you&#039;re a buffoon.

Most of what you have said so far has made little sense. It has been about 6 posts since there was any relevance to even a small portion of your meanderings.

Back in the day, when I was a substance abuser, I could drink, drop acid and smoke pot, and make more sense than you, you scatterbrained lunatic.

Whatever you&#039;re smoking, either stop smoking it or smoke more of it. You&#039;re lost in the Universe, tiny minded one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me level with you, jody. You&#8217;re really coming off here as a world &#8211; class a-hole.</p>
<p>If you think impressing &#8220;s&#8221; is any better than pissing in a hurricane, you&#8217;re a buffoon.</p>
<p>Most of what you have said so far has made little sense. It has been about 6 posts since there was any relevance to even a small portion of your meanderings.</p>
<p>Back in the day, when I was a substance abuser, I could drink, drop acid and smoke pot, and make more sense than you, you scatterbrained lunatic.</p>
<p>Whatever you&#8217;re smoking, either stop smoking it or smoke more of it. You&#8217;re lost in the Universe, tiny minded one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54274</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you S...I&#039;m trying to entertain as much as illuminate here. Glad to see I have an audience.

But you&#039;ll notice by now that fd&#039;s shifted the goal posts so far that by now they must be orbiting Jupiter&#039;s third moon.

Here he persists in his belief that I&#039;m actually debating him on some level. All I&#039;m doing is pointing at him.

He asks for a leftist plan for fighting terror, and he gets one, but now it wasn&#039;t produced in time or by the right people.

Never mind that by his reckoning, the &#039;right people&#039; are the ones that have turned this flaming train wreck into a veritable armada of locomotives, all filled to the brim with nitroglycerin and ball bearings, hurtling at each other at supersonic speed and crashing into one another in an inferno of flaming steel and fire.

And the &quot;right people&#039;s&quot; solution to this mess is to add more trains.

He denies my implications that neither he nor any on his side give two shits about the hundreds of thousands of people killed and maimed in the name of George W Bush&#039;s War To Show We Have The Biggest Peenies, Part II...and yet he feels the only moral solution, by his own reckoning, is escalation.

...escalation involving someone ELSE&#039;S kid, no doubt.

Take &#039;em out root and branch. Invade yet more uninvolved countries. Gotta show &#039;em we&#039;re serious. Gotta break a few eggs when making an omelette. It&#039;s the only solution. The final solution.

He rails against how condescending and patronizing I sound. He is still bleating about how &#039;insulting&#039; I come off as.

Never mind that the folks that subscribe to his brand of thinking are so sociopathic, so flat out WRONG, that they SHOULD be condescended to.

What&#039;s more, they should be marginalized to the point where they are allowed to handle nothing more dangerous than a boiled egg, much less the entire political party over which they now hold sway.

They have dragged us into a cesspit of blood and war, and they want to be treated with respect. They shriek for more war as they rail against those who have shown the war for what it is.

And they demand civility in return.

Rhetorically, I haven&#039;t shifted very far from my original post. All I&#039;ve done is point out the flaws in each of fd&#039;s arguments. There has certainly been a fair bit of scorn thrown in, as is owed to any who feel that the best way to fight terror is to invade unrelated nations and turn them into chaotic hellholes, emptying our treasury and sacrificing our young people in the process.

He petulantly defends himself, thinking I can&#039;t possibly believe all the horrible, insulting things I&#039;ve been saying about him.

...when ALL I&#039;VE BEEN DOING THIS ENTIRE TIME IS SHOWING HIM A GODDAM MIRROR.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you S&#8230;I&#8217;m trying to entertain as much as illuminate here. Glad to see I have an audience.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;ll notice by now that fd&#8217;s shifted the goal posts so far that by now they must be orbiting Jupiter&#8217;s third moon.</p>
<p>Here he persists in his belief that I&#8217;m actually debating him on some level. All I&#8217;m doing is pointing at him.</p>
<p>He asks for a leftist plan for fighting terror, and he gets one, but now it wasn&#8217;t produced in time or by the right people.</p>
<p>Never mind that by his reckoning, the &#8216;right people&#8217; are the ones that have turned this flaming train wreck into a veritable armada of locomotives, all filled to the brim with nitroglycerin and ball bearings, hurtling at each other at supersonic speed and crashing into one another in an inferno of flaming steel and fire.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;right people&#8217;s&#8221; solution to this mess is to add more trains.</p>
<p>He denies my implications that neither he nor any on his side give two shits about the hundreds of thousands of people killed and maimed in the name of George W Bush&#8217;s War To Show We Have The Biggest Peenies, Part II&#8230;and yet he feels the only moral solution, by his own reckoning, is escalation.</p>
<p>&#8230;escalation involving someone ELSE&#8217;S kid, no doubt.</p>
<p>Take &#8216;em out root and branch. Invade yet more uninvolved countries. Gotta show &#8216;em we&#8217;re serious. Gotta break a few eggs when making an omelette. It&#8217;s the only solution. The final solution.</p>
<p>He rails against how condescending and patronizing I sound. He is still bleating about how &#8216;insulting&#8217; I come off as.</p>
<p>Never mind that the folks that subscribe to his brand of thinking are so sociopathic, so flat out WRONG, that they SHOULD be condescended to.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, they should be marginalized to the point where they are allowed to handle nothing more dangerous than a boiled egg, much less the entire political party over which they now hold sway.</p>
<p>They have dragged us into a cesspit of blood and war, and they want to be treated with respect. They shriek for more war as they rail against those who have shown the war for what it is.</p>
<p>And they demand civility in return.</p>
<p>Rhetorically, I haven&#8217;t shifted very far from my original post. All I&#8217;ve done is point out the flaws in each of fd&#8217;s arguments. There has certainly been a fair bit of scorn thrown in, as is owed to any who feel that the best way to fight terror is to invade unrelated nations and turn them into chaotic hellholes, emptying our treasury and sacrificing our young people in the process.</p>
<p>He petulantly defends himself, thinking I can&#8217;t possibly believe all the horrible, insulting things I&#8217;ve been saying about him.</p>
<p>&#8230;when ALL I&#8217;VE BEEN DOING THIS ENTIRE TIME IS SHOWING HIM A GODDAM MIRROR.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54273</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There you go, Jody -- &quot;s&quot; is on your side! YaY!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go, Jody &#8212; &#8220;s&#8221; is on your side! YaY!</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54272</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jody, you&#039;re thoroughly, truly entertaining.

Frank finally got it: &quot;By your reckoning, I shouldn&#039;t even be intelligent enough to understand you.&quot;

I know, it took time and effort, but he DID get there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jody, you&#8217;re thoroughly, truly entertaining.</p>
<p>Frank finally got it: &#8220;By your reckoning, I shouldn&#8217;t even be intelligent enough to understand you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know, it took time and effort, but he DID get there.</p>
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		<title>By: fd10801</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/01/05/the-fight/#comment-54271</link>
		<dc:creator>fd10801</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jody, you must be a comedian, because you can&#039;t be that ignorant.

Do you even realize that you&#039;re using the passive voice with regard to my being presented with proof that there was indeed a plan to fight terrorism generated by the Dems  (however redundant and insubstantial most of it is) because it was done by someone else?

Do you even realize that I had no reason whatever to suppose the Democrats had a plan to fight terrorism, and that if it were so obvious, anyone of you could have found with a few minutes research -- not the 48 plus hours it took for someone to come up with it -- without a link, of course?

Jody, do you even realize how condescending and patronizing you sound, proclaiming that hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, as if I don&#039;t know or care? I don&#039;t know who you&#039;re showing off for by using the third person, but I am not in the least impressed by your barrage of insults -- yes, insults.

You can&#039;t be stupid enough to believe that all those things you&#039;re saying about me are true, can you?

By your reckoning, I shouldn&#039;t even be intelligent enough to understand you, you elitist, pretentious twit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jody, you must be a comedian, because you can&#8217;t be that ignorant.</p>
<p>Do you even realize that you&#8217;re using the passive voice with regard to my being presented with proof that there was indeed a plan to fight terrorism generated by the Dems  (however redundant and insubstantial most of it is) because it was done by someone else?</p>
<p>Do you even realize that I had no reason whatever to suppose the Democrats had a plan to fight terrorism, and that if it were so obvious, anyone of you could have found with a few minutes research &#8212; not the 48 plus hours it took for someone to come up with it &#8212; without a link, of course?</p>
<p>Jody, do you even realize how condescending and patronizing you sound, proclaiming that hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, as if I don&#8217;t know or care? I don&#8217;t know who you&#8217;re showing off for by using the third person, but I am not in the least impressed by your barrage of insults &#8212; yes, insults.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be stupid enough to believe that all those things you&#8217;re saying about me are true, can you?</p>
<p>By your reckoning, I shouldn&#8217;t even be intelligent enough to understand you, you elitist, pretentious twit.</p>
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