The secular-progressive movement needs your help for the War On Christmas.
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December 1st, 2006
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Oliver, you know you’re breaking protocol by posting this stuff out in the open. Remember, you took a sacred oath when you faced Mecca and prayed for America to be destroyed and replaced with a secular Islamic communist government where kids will be punished for not coming at the beck and call of all NAMBLA members. That oath called for secrecy. You don’t want me to file a report on this with Moscow Paris.
All the people trying to destroy any religious aspect to Christmas do not require any more assistance.
Especially because those people are as fictional as Santa Claus.
OTOH:
http://tinyurl.com/yb2ujp
Wow a Townhall.com blog that sure is an unbiased and dispassionate look at the issue
Oh wait THERE IS NO ISSUE
I’m with PZ.
Bring on Cephalopodmas!
And I must admit, I too really want one of these.
And the tentacles were hung as a Cephalopodmas greetin’, in the hopes that the children would be first to be eaten!
Oh, stop it! There is nothing dispassionate or objective about the poor attempt at satire that started this thread.
Answer three questions: Is anybody trying to stop menorahs or crescents from being displayed?
What has motivated the people mentioned in Lopez’ story?
Why do you take the time and the energy to say that something that is happening, is not happening?
what a great piece of propaganda! I’m an atheist and even I can smell yellow journalism
You see, you do it all with innuendo cloaked in some sort of attempt at humor.
There is no denial that people are trying to keep the celebration of christmas down, simply a mocking that anyone would be that silly.
But unfortunately, we know that people ARE that silly.
Why is it that other atheists are so afraid of the display of religion? No one wants to force anyone to celebrate it, but you know, peace on earth, goodwill toward men seems benign enough to allow a little display on the courthouse lawn eh?
If there is a “war on Christmas”, I hope it succeeds. This is one waste-of-money time of year I can do without.
You can smell propaganda all you want, all it means is you need your nose checked out. There is no war on christmas, other than the one made up by the right to sell books, tv shows and columns. It doesn’t exist.
so Ollie are you telling me that the following events were initiated by conservatives?
A Wisconsin elementary school changed the Christmas carol “Silent Night” to a secularized version called “Cold in the Night”
Teachers in a Georgia elementary school were banned from wearing any sort of Christmas pin that had a religious connotation, and from using the word “Christmas”
An Oregon school prohibited a kindergartner from giving out Christmas cards which told of the religious origin of the candy cane last year
A Massachusetts school prohibited the same “candy cane” Christmas cards two years ago
An elementary school in Oklahoma would not allow any references to Christmas in its “holiday” play, but left references to Hanukkah and the manufactured 1960s black American holiday of Kwanzaa
A school in Massachusetts told second graders to bring a book to class that represented their Christmas traditions, but when one girl brought a religious-based book, she was told she couldn’t share her book with the class
Teachers in Sacramento, California were told they could not use the word “Christmas” in oral or written communication
A school in Tacoma, Washington changed the word “Christmas” to “winter” in a Christmas carol to be sung at a Christmas concert
Denver also banned a group of Christians from having a float in the Christmas parade because they wanted to sing Christmas carols and have a banner that said “Merry Christmas”
One school district in Plano, Texas even went so far as to ban the colors red and green from holiday celebrations
Gee, Pee-dro:
Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Colorado, and Eastern Washington?
Not exactly hotbeds of liberal PC activism…
Oh, not a liberal in those states eh?
Yea you’re right, probably republicans who told the school teachers in sacramento they coudn’t use the word “christmas”
I’m sorry, was somebody complaining about Kwanzaa being a manufactured holiday? There was this really funny Christmas commercial on tv for Verizon or something, and I got distracted.
In all seriousness, dr pedro, when you say that the elementary school in Oklahoma would not allow any references to Christmas in its holiday play, this is not accurate.
I’m serious,now: Do you really think that anyone who reads this thread is stupid enough to believe that there are not people out there banning Christmas plays, mentioning of Christ; that there aren’t employers out there telling their people to say “Happy Holidays”, instead of “Merry Christmas”?
Why don’t you be honest and say you don’t give a sh*t, and stop trying to fool absolutely no one into believing it’s not happening.
Sounds like, “We oppose the war, but support the troops.” Doublespeak.
Oh, I’m totally serious, fdnnnnn. I honestly think that if someone mutters the words “Merry Christmas” to me, I’ll violently wither and die like those screeching mollusks in that movie Krull.
Again, I’m addressing this subject with the seriousness and solemnity it so richly deserves.
So, wajaba, can I put you in the “I do’t give a sh*t” column?
Whatever blows your skirt up, fd.
I guess you can’t go wrong saying that someone you disagree with wears a skirt, eh?
I have no energy left.
Sweet mother of Christ we are not having this discussion.
The war on Christmas killed Kennedy on the orders of cloned Elvis and the LOCH NESS MONSTER UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE GOD DAMNED FLYING SAUCER PEOPLE. AND THAT IS THE STORY OF JESUS.
As Bill Hicks said, as long as we’re making shit up let’s go hog wild.
I guess what I’m trying to say is SHUT UP
Nimrod It becomes clearer to me everyday why the british lost their empires…!
LOL
Random half stories about school districts trying to make the holiday season more open to everyone, not just Christians. Yeah, you got me convinced. The conspiracy to eradicate Christmas is real and immense. Who told? Who told?
Cool, do I get to talk to you as if you’re the entire population and history of your country?
Oliver how in gods name does “the holiday season” become closed to someone by the words “merry christmas”?
Is “Happy Chanukah” any worse? What bout “joyous kwanza” (whatever that is), or happy ramadan.
If I am greeted with any of the above, I take them all as glad tidings from the person giving them. I don’t behave as if someone is trying to shove religion down my throat.
But it is funny, even when you try to mock the idea that anyone wants to eradicate christmas, you justify it in the same sentence. You are so wrapped up in your hypocrisy that you can’t even recognize it anymore..
That’s exactly the point we’re making, you daft git. You know, except for the bit where you casually put down Kwanzaa for no reason at all..
What’s wrong with happy holidays? I celebrate Christmas, I have every year of my life, yet somehow I haven’t become aghast and agog at the idea that someone says something inclusive like “happy holidays”. It isn’t eradicating Christmas, its opening up the holidays to everyone. Christ, what’s wrong with you people? You feel the need to be “oppressed” so much you just make shit up like the “war on christmas”. Get over yourselves and come and join the rest of us in the real world.
I’m not sure who “you people” are…but I am an atheist. I like christmas for the tree, the presents…etc. I like Chanukah too.
You demand tolerance from everyone but your fellow, tolerant leftist’s travelers. If you celebrate and believe in christmas, say “merry christmas”…why not just say what you mean. You demand everyone else be tolerant of your “tolerant” choice, but refuse to be tolerant of theirs.
Like I said, hypocrisy, pure and simple. But you should get along well with the new muslim overlords….
If you celebrate and believe in christmas, say “merry christmas”…why not just say what you mean.
Well, if you’re making a wish for yourself, then by all means, wish yourself a merry Christmas.
But if you’re offering a wish for someone else–perhaps a customer, if you work in retail–you can’t tell just by looking whether the person celebrates Christmas or not.
Have a happy World Peace Day, Peed’.
I spent Saturday watching the annual civic Christmas parade, complete with a half-dozen or so church-sponsored floats.
The town is decked out with Christmas decorations, likewise the local shops, all of which are playing Christmas carols. (none of which could possibly be confused for Hanukkah carols or Kwanzaa decorations)
There are endless TV/radio ads telling me what I NEED TO BUY my loved ones this Christmas.
Whoever is conducting this war is doing a pissant job, if you ask me.
Hey, bro!
sis, actually. ; )
oops, that was me.