Comments on: Tolerance Is A Two-Way Street http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:29:00 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Walter http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51123 Walter Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:48:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51123 "The concept that you're going to issue a fatwa on anyone who speaks harshly of your culture while also arguing about tolerance is just two-faced." It's not about tolerance, it's about obedience. “The concept that you’re going to issue a fatwa on anyone who speaks harshly of your culture while also arguing about tolerance is just two-faced.”

It’s not about tolerance, it’s about obedience.

]]> By: bryan http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51122 bryan Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:45:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51122 You should try "the late edition" on the BBC. Marcus Brigstock recently satirised a guy called Barot (not Borat) who had been found guilty of planning to bomb UK and US targets: He compared Barot's knowledge of the Koran to his own attitude to "Lost"; he thinks he likes it, but doesn't have a fucking clue what it really is about. It was priceless. His interview with a senior muslim cleric was good as well, he points out the humour of the prophet Mohammed (I kid you not). You should try “the late edition” on the BBC. Marcus Brigstock recently satirised a guy called Barot (not Borat) who had been found guilty of planning to bomb UK and US targets: He compared Barot’s knowledge of the Koran to his own attitude to “Lost”; he thinks he likes it, but doesn’t have a fucking clue what it really is about. It was priceless. His interview with a senior muslim cleric was good as well, he points out the humour of the prophet Mohammed (I kid you not).

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51121 frameone Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:38:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51121 "Well, Oliver, if I was a professional blogger, instead of a hobbyist, I'd probably have higher standards." If it wasn't Jay I'd say this was a stab at humor. But it's jay so I have no doubt that he actually does think this is a valid excuse for being totally wrong on a regular and consistent basis. “Well, Oliver, if I was a professional blogger, instead of a hobbyist, I’d probably have higher standards.”

If it wasn’t Jay I’d say this was a stab at humor. But it’s jay so I have no doubt that he actually does think this is a valid excuse for being totally wrong on a regular and consistent basis.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51120 Oliver Willis Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:36:41 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51120 If George Soros was paying me to blog I'd be shouting it from the mountains. The only one paying me to blog is Adsense, Blogads, and the occasional dollar from Amazon. And even so, the only tool you needed before writing your smear job was Google (that's free). If George Soros was paying me to blog I’d be shouting it from the mountains. The only one paying me to blog is Adsense, Blogads, and the occasional dollar from Amazon. And even so, the only tool you needed before writing your smear job was Google (that’s free).

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51119 Jay Tea Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:15:54 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51119 Well, Oliver, if I was a professional blogger, instead of a hobbyist, I'd probably have higher standards. Unfortunately, my day job doesn't give me the resources others have at their disposal. Hey, is Soros hiring? And can you put in a good word for me? J. Well, Oliver, if I was a professional blogger, instead of a hobbyist, I’d probably have higher standards. Unfortunately, my day job doesn’t give me the resources others have at their disposal.

Hey, is Soros hiring? And can you put in a good word for me?

J.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51118 Oliver Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:35:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51118 Yes, Jay, I'm nowhere near your editorial standards of just making assertions unsupported by the facts and never correcting them once the information is given to me. Yes, Jay, I’m nowhere near your editorial standards of just making assertions unsupported by the facts and never correcting them once the information is given to me.

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51117 Jay Tea Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:58:52 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51117 Damn. That's three in a row I have to agree with you -- this one, the Durbin/Obama lovefest, and the CBC. The common elements of all three: maturity, common sense, and a willingness to put principles above partisanship. Thank heavens you have the Bush piece there to reassure me your site hasn't been hijacked. J. Damn. That’s three in a row I have to agree with you — this one, the Durbin/Obama lovefest, and the CBC. The common elements of all three: maturity, common sense, and a willingness to put principles above partisanship.

Thank heavens you have the Bush piece there to reassure me your site hasn’t been hijacked.

J.

]]> By: m http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51116 m Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:31:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51116 Amen, brother. Let's mock the shit out of everybody. The free marketplace of ideas holds that those ideas with merit will survive the otherwise withering effects of sunshine. Sunshine - the best disinfectant -- especially when served up with a bowl of shit eating grin inducing satire! Yum. Better than Cheerios! M Amen, brother. Let’s mock the shit out of everybody.

The free marketplace of ideas holds that those ideas with merit will survive the otherwise withering effects of sunshine.

Sunshine – the best disinfectant — especially when served up with a bowl of shit eating grin inducing satire!

Yum. Better than Cheerios!

M

]]> By: Colorado Dave http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51115 Colorado Dave Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:12:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51115 You said it Oliver! I am an atheist. I may feel that religious people are fools. If I have a job as a cab driver does my atheism give me the right to refuse to bring a person to a church? Of course not! That would be absurd. If I were a cab driver I couldn't pick and choose my fares based on my opinion of the destination (with a personal safety exception). Likewise, a muslim cab driver cannot refuse to bring a fare to a bar or a liquor store, nor can he refuse to drive a woman who he feels is inappropriately dressed. A christian cab driver has no choice but to drive a fare to a liquor store or abortion clinic. It just goes with the job. Pharmacists who refuses to dispense birth control because it offends their beliefs should be fired. Atheists, working in bookstores, who refuses to sell Bibles should be fired, etc. A person in a free society can believe any fool thing they want. They cannot, however, expect society to cater to their every (or any) whim. Likewise we should not expect public money be used to facilitate private belief. Muslim cab drivers should not have government use public money to build inclement weather shelters so they can pray 6 times a day. If the government builds shelters then the muslim cab drivers will just have to pray next to a non-muslim cabdriver eating a ham and cheese sandwich out of the rain. Christians should not have government funds pay for creches unless they are willing to have the government pay for any religious display from any religion which so requests. That could get amazingly expensive and complex. Perhaps it would be best for government to stay out of such things. Etc. You said it Oliver!

I am an atheist. I may feel that religious people are fools.

If I have a job as a cab driver does my atheism give me the right to refuse to bring a person to a church? Of course not! That would be absurd.

If I were a cab driver I couldn’t pick and choose my fares based on my opinion of the destination (with a personal safety exception).

Likewise, a muslim cab driver cannot refuse to bring a fare to a bar or a liquor store, nor can he refuse to drive a woman who he feels is inappropriately dressed.

A christian cab driver has no choice but to drive a fare to a liquor store or abortion clinic.

It just goes with the job. Pharmacists who refuses to dispense birth control because it offends their beliefs should be fired.

Atheists, working in bookstores, who refuses to sell Bibles should be fired, etc.

A person in a free society can believe any fool thing they want. They cannot, however, expect society to cater to their every (or any) whim.

Likewise we should not expect public money be used to facilitate private belief. Muslim cab drivers should not have government use public money to build inclement weather shelters so they can pray 6 times a day. If the government builds shelters then the muslim cab drivers will just have to pray next to a non-muslim cabdriver eating a ham and cheese sandwich out of the rain.

Christians should not have government funds pay for creches unless they are willing to have the government pay for any religious display from any religion which so requests. That could get amazingly expensive and complex. Perhaps it would be best for government to stay out of such things.

Etc.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51114 Oliver Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:57:22 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51114 Well, its a non-belief system, I know. But I lumped it in because I don't want people thinking only those with religion should be mocked. Well, its a non-belief system, I know. But I lumped it in because I don’t want people thinking only those with religion should be mocked.

]]> By: Lettuce http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/tolerance-is-a-two-way-street/#comment-51113 Lettuce Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:54:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=3252#comment-51113 Atheism is not a belief system in the sense you're using it. Atheism is not a belief system in the sense you’re using it.

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