The blast sent clouds of black smoke over concrete high-rise buildings in the area, where narrow alleys made it difficult for ambulances and fire trucks to navigate. At least 51 people were killed and 90 wounded, according to police Lieutenant Mohammed Khayoun and hospital officials.

Uh-oh. Another AP report about sectarian violence, fueled by a thirst for revenge. And uh-oh! Another source–Mohammed Khayoun–whose name appears on CENTCOM’s list of unverifiable sources!!

Let us observe. Will right wingers treat this story the same as the immolation story? Or differently?

Jay Tea, the official spokesman for the MOI–the same guy who gave the presser denouncing Jamil Hussein–was on CENTCOM’s list of “questionable sources.” They didn’t even recognize the name of the official spokesman!

But if they say they don’t know who Jamil Hussein is, then by all means he must be an insurgent propagandist.

Just stands to reason.

Oh, well if some guy named “Zombie” says so, I guess that settles it!

Thanks, Jay Tea.

But you take one evangelical christian, and all of a sudden the lefties believe the return of the spanish inquisition is nigh upon us…

typical lefty hypocrisy

Photo 2: As above. And they fired the guy who did it for obviously being a clueless jock who’d mistaken Reuters for ACTION COOL NEWS 5.

Photo 3: Oh no a rescue worker surrounded by news photographers gives them what they want that has never happened before.

Photo 4: Oh for Christ’s sake, grow up. Moving a mannequin does not make propaganda.

Photo 5: If the buildings were destroyed on July 24th, THEY WOULD STILL BE DESTROYED ON AUGUST 4TH…DUMBASS. There is nothing suggesting that the two pictures couldn’t have been taken seperately, and the caption doesn’t say they buildings were destroyed in August, it says she’s walking past in in August. Same goes for all the others. Honestly, if your argument relies that heavily on such breathtaking stupidity, it’s not worth making.

No, he didn’t make shit up (with the possible exception of his underling premise), he’s just using a combination of microscopic-level nitpicking and simple stupidity, combined with the actions of one single Reuters employee who was fired for being stupid.

“Zombie” has found dozens of faked, staged, or outright fraudulent photos — see http://www.zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/ and try to refute his evidence.

I don’t speak for the conservatives, but I’ll answer your question as if it was directed to me: I “leap to the defense” of truth. Even if it casts despicable vermin like Al Sadr and his cockroaches in a less than condemning light.

The TRUTH is that there is absolutely no evidence to verify the existence of the AP’s apparent go-to man on atrocities in Iraq, and the AP’s sole attempts so far to establish his credentials as claimed are to say “we asked him again, and he said yup.”

And those who insist that the AP is in a better position to say who is and who is not a high-ranking police officer than the freely-elected Iraqi government has serious issues with either truth or reality.

J.

(Go ahead and dismiss Zombie as a right-wing whacko. But unless you’re prepared to refute his work, and not just him, you won’t prove a damned thing. The guy doesn’t NEED to make up stuff, unlike the AP — he uses Reuters and other media outlets’ own work to prove their lies.)

And while we’re at it, no, you can’t “turn that question around,” because you don’t have anything resembling a verifiable fact to back up what you suppose to be true.

Let’s leave the question just the way it is: Why is the right so eager to leap to the defense of the Mahdi Army?

Well, you lost me right there. In fact, that point is disputable.

You’ve cited exactly one photograph that was photoshopped to add more smoke to something that actually was on fire.

The story concerning Jamil Hussein is still an open question. The AP is disputing your point rather vigorously, as you might have noticed had you read something other than Ms. Malkin’s offerings.

Factions are using the media to propagate their propaganda, and it is being passed off unquestioningly by the press.

That’s the argument being put forward by the Iraqi MOI. Ironically, it was most recently put forward by an MOI spokesman who was on MNC-I’s list of “questionable” sources, until this week.

Jay Tea, you’re throwing around accusations about who’s lying and whose not when all you know is what you read at Flopping Aces. That’s not proof of anything.

Why are liberals so eager to embrace lies that suit their agenda?

That the news stories coming out of the Middle East in general, and Iraq in particular, are frequently and flagrantly wrong is indisputable. Witness the faked photos that came out of the most recent fighting in Lebanon.

Factions are using the media to propagate their propaganda, and it is being passed off unquestioningly by the press. That the Iraqi government would set up an agency to watch for and answer these lies is a necessity.

If the facts support your case, Quaker, then you should not NEED people to lie to support it. All that does is discredit your whole argument.

Just ask Dan Rather. “Fake but accurate” is just another term for “bullshit.”

J.

The group accused of perpetrating the attack is the Mahdi Army, the Shiite militia controlled by the virulently anti-American Moqtada al-Sadr, the radical cleric who can kick the props out from under the Iraqi government at his whim.

Why are conservatives so eager to leap to the defense?

Further, the Iraqi Interior Ministry has apparently formed a unit to monitor news coverage and demand corrections or retractions of stories it deems uncomplimentary to the government. Why is a U.S. Navy Lieutenant doing their bidding? Even if you believe the story of the attack is incorrect, why would MNC-I “respectfully request a retraction” from a U.S. news organization, as Lt. Dean has done? The strongest action you would expect from Centcom would be an “FYI, here’s what we know” memo. Why so forceful on this one?

I expect the ground to shift several more times before we’ve heard the last of this.

According to this official, the press is making it look like there’s violence and chaos in Baghdad, and that’s just not true!

Really, Jay Tea? Maybe we were “greeted as liberators” after all and the evil MSM just won’t tell us!

5) Until proven otherwise, that seems to say that there is no Captain Jamil Hussein. There might be an actual Jamil Hussein, but he apparently is NOT who the AP keeps saying he is.

The burden is on the AP to prove its assertion.

Well, there you go. Too many of your comrades want to stop the clock right here and say that all the facts are in. The Iraqi MOI has declared that “Capt. Hussein” isn’t one of theirs, but let’s just see what the next few days bring, shall we?

This story has taken some surprising turns so far. There’s no reason to think we’re out of the woods just yet.

Malkinites: Remember the old saying: fish and guests begin to smell after three days. Don’t be boring.

The burden is on the AP to prove its assertion.

What does the word “independently” mean to you, Noel? What in that bolded sentence leads you believe that “found” meant the original source provided the witnesses?

Jesus, Noel, try to stay up with the
news so you don’t sound so fucking stupid:

An AP reporter contacted Hussein a third time, and the captain, who has been a regular source of police information for two years and who gave his full name as Jamil Gholaiem Hussein, said six people were indeed set on fire. Two AP reporters went back to the neighborhood yesterday and found three witnesses who independently gave accounts. Others said they were afraid to talk.

If you’re puzzled as to why leftists have trouble reaching the moderate public, you might want to start with this thread. It’s a textbook example of how terrible leftists are at making a point.

OK, first of all, this is a post about Michelle Malkin. Are you claiming she claimed this?

Second of all, was she wrong? Polling place shenanigans DO take place, after all.

You claim “[Conservatives claimed] that the media was engaged in a conspiracy with the Democrats,”

Again, did Michelle Malkin claim this? And if so, was she actually WRONG, or was she just impolite to point it out?

Finally, “[Conservatives claimed] that the Republicans would hold the House and Senate.”

Once again, did Michelle Malkin claim this? If she did, she was obviously wrong, though not “freakishly wrong.”