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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51340</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; When a senator elect muses in front of public sources about slugging the Pres, I consider that a threat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Unless said President is called Clinton.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> When a senator elect muses in front of public sources about slugging the Pres, I consider that a threat.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unless said President is called Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51339</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, right, we&#039;re supposed to be shamed into silence because WE WEREN&#039;T THERE, MAN, because some guy on a website claimed he was in the Navy.

Yes, Pedro, only those who serve in the military can offer any opinions whatsoever.  John Kerry appreciates your vote in 2004.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, right, we&#8217;re supposed to be shamed into silence because WE WEREN&#8217;T THERE, MAN, because some guy on a website claimed he was in the Navy.</p>
<p>Yes, Pedro, only those who serve in the military can offer any opinions whatsoever.  John Kerry appreciates your vote in 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: dr pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51338</link>
		<dc:creator>dr pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now would be the time to queue the &quot;people join the military cause they are too poor and stupid to do anything else&quot; lefties...

It is fun to watch and see how many of these &quot;brave&quot;liberals actually ever lifted a finger in service to this country though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now would be the time to queue the &#8220;people join the military cause they are too poor and stupid to do anything else&#8221; lefties&#8230;</p>
<p>It is fun to watch and see how many of these &#8220;brave&#8221;liberals actually ever lifted a finger in service to this country though.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51337</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have over 30 years of experience in not committing US troops to a war with no goal and no strategy.

And you, Bill?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have over 30 years of experience in not committing US troops to a war with no goal and no strategy.</p>
<p>And you, Bill?</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51336</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEAH, Bill.

I spent 12 years going to grade school and 4 years obtaining my degree.

And you, Bill?

LoL!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH, Bill.</p>
<p>I spent 12 years going to grade school and 4 years obtaining my degree.</p>
<p>And you, Bill?</p>
<p>LoL!</p>
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		<title>By: dr pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51335</link>
		<dc:creator>dr pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent as much time in the Navy as Ritter did in the Marines...including two years forward deployed overseas....

And you bill?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent as much time in the Navy as Ritter did in the Marines&#8230;including two years forward deployed overseas&#8230;.</p>
<p>And you bill?</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51334</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nimmer,

Notice your immature insults ignored.

When a senator elect muses in front of public sources about slugging the Pres, I consider that a threat.  But perhaps you are not familar with our customs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nimmer,</p>
<p>Notice your immature insults ignored.</p>
<p>When a senator elect muses in front of public sources about slugging the Pres, I consider that a threat.  But perhaps you are not familar with our customs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill L.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51333</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush starts an unnecessary conflict against international law and perhaps domestic, doesn&#039;t press for proper support for the troops ala adequate body armor, signs off on stop loss orders to prevent soldiers from coming home after as many as four tours, doesn&#039;t attend a single funeral, and ignores all strategic advice beyond &quot;stay the course,&quot; and I&#039;m supposed to believe he asked about Webb&#039;s son with heartfelt sincerity?  Mr Champagne Unit of the Texas N.G.?  The one who couldn&#039;t be bothered to fulfill his obligations and cut out early while others went into combat to protect his oafish, coke addled heiny?  That guy?

As for Webb&#039;s turn as Sec. of the Navy, how is he responsible for sending people to their death&#039;s?  Did he start a war?  Did he provoke an unnecessary confrontation and send others into harm&#039;s way to clean up the mess?

Pedro, while commenting from the safety of his desk chair, calls Scott Ritter a strutting rooster.

Uh, yeah...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush starts an unnecessary conflict against international law and perhaps domestic, doesn&#8217;t press for proper support for the troops ala adequate body armor, signs off on stop loss orders to prevent soldiers from coming home after as many as four tours, doesn&#8217;t attend a single funeral, and ignores all strategic advice beyond &#8220;stay the course,&#8221; and I&#8217;m supposed to believe he asked about Webb&#8217;s son with heartfelt sincerity?  Mr Champagne Unit of the Texas N.G.?  The one who couldn&#8217;t be bothered to fulfill his obligations and cut out early while others went into combat to protect his oafish, coke addled heiny?  That guy?</p>
<p>As for Webb&#8217;s turn as Sec. of the Navy, how is he responsible for sending people to their death&#8217;s?  Did he start a war?  Did he provoke an unnecessary confrontation and send others into harm&#8217;s way to clean up the mess?</p>
<p>Pedro, while commenting from the safety of his desk chair, calls Scott Ritter a strutting rooster.</p>
<p>Uh, yeah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51332</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 06:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pedugger ... circle jerking and laughing hysterically.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pedugger &#8230; circle jerking and laughing hysterically.</p>
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		<title>By: dr pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51331</link>
		<dc:creator>dr pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No nimrod I think it was like the scott ritter post a few topics back....all full of machismo and bravado, just a strutting rooster.

You know what they say...

all talk, no action
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No nimrod I think it was like the scott ritter post a few topics back&#8230;.all full of machismo and bravado, just a strutting rooster.</p>
<p>You know what they say&#8230;</p>
<p>all talk, no action</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51330</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger, if you actually think Webb threatened Bush you&#039;re a complete imbecile. If, as I believe you are doing (if only for the sake of my sanity), you&#039;re simply pretending to think this, you have no shame.

WHICH IS IT
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger, if you actually think Webb threatened Bush you&#8217;re a complete imbecile. If, as I believe you are doing (if only for the sake of my sanity), you&#8217;re simply pretending to think this, you have no shame.</p>
<p>WHICH IS IT</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51329</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not relevant, Dugs.

I ask: &quot;Which part is supposed to be the &#039;rude&#039; part?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not relevant, Dugs.</p>
<p>I ask: &#8220;Which part is supposed to be the &#8216;rude&#8217; part?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51328</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a very polite and civil response would have been, &quot;Fine.  How have your daughters been?&quot;

Then Bush, because he wouldn&#039;t want to be rude in response, would have to confess that they&#039;ve been screwing around in Buenos Aires.

It might have led to an interesting discussion about who is actually making sacrifices and who isn&#039;t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a very polite and civil response would have been, &#8220;Fine.  How have your daughters been?&#8221;</p>
<p>Then Bush, because he wouldn&#8217;t want to be rude in response, would have to confess that they&#8217;ve been screwing around in Buenos Aires.</p>
<p>It might have led to an interesting discussion about who is actually making sacrifices and who isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51327</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if Webb had answered the President directly the first time but said: &quot;Well, my son is doing his duty but doesn&#039;t understand why were over there.&quot;

Or: &quot;My son just wants to come home.&quot;

Or: &quot;My son tells me that our mission failing.&quot;

In other words, what if Webb answered the question directly and the president still didn&#039;t like the answer?

Would you still be whining about civility, as if Webb had a responsibility to shield the president from his son&#039;s true feelings or how his son was really doing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if Webb had answered the President directly the first time but said: &#8220;Well, my son is doing his duty but doesn&#8217;t understand why were over there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or: &#8220;My son just wants to come home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or: &#8220;My son tells me that our mission failing.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, what if Webb answered the question directly and the president still didn&#8217;t like the answer?</p>
<p>Would you still be whining about civility, as if Webb had a responsibility to shield the president from his son&#8217;s true feelings or how his son was really doing?</p>
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		<title>By: dr pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51326</link>
		<dc:creator>dr pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok dug, quacker is being deliberately obtuse again.

asking &quot;how&#039;s your boy&quot; is &quot;impertinent&quot; in quacker&#039;s estimation...&#039;nuff said

I will be amazed if quacker can post without using a question mark
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok dug, quacker is being deliberately obtuse again.</p>
<p>asking &#8220;how&#8217;s your boy&#8221; is &#8220;impertinent&#8221; in quacker&#8217;s estimation&#8230;&#8217;nuff said</p>
<p>I will be amazed if quacker can post without using a question mark</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker,

Note the &quot;echoing a campaign theme&quot; and note Webb said &#039;them&#039;.
Exactly why is it OK for Webb to send young men and women to die and progressives love him but when Bush does it, its all horrible and its perfectly OK to threaten violence against the Pres. in response.

Why is the threat of violence OK?  Anyboby??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker,</p>
<p>Note the &#8220;echoing a campaign theme&#8221; and note Webb said &#8216;them&#8217;.<br />
Exactly why is it OK for Webb to send young men and women to die and progressives love him but when Bush does it, its all horrible and its perfectly OK to threaten violence against the Pres. in response.</p>
<p>Why is the threat of violence OK?  Anyboby??</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51324</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the Washington Post&#039;s account of what Webb said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I&#039;d like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President,&quot; Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.

&quot;That&#039;s not what I asked you,&quot; Bush said. &quot;How&#039;s your boy?&quot;

&quot;That&#039;s between me and my boy, Mr. President,&quot; Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is it exactly that has everybody tut-tutting over Mr. Webb&#039;s behavior? Which part is supposed to be the &quot;uncivil&quot; part?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Washington Post&#8217;s account of what Webb said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President,&#8221; Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s not what I asked you,&#8221; Bush said. &#8220;How&#8217;s your boy?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s between me and my boy, Mr. President,&#8221; Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House.
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<p>What is it exactly that has everybody tut-tutting over Mr. Webb&#8217;s behavior? Which part is supposed to be the &#8220;uncivil&#8221; part?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51323</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;See one was polite conversation, and the other began as a confrontation.&lt;/em&gt;

So Mr. Cheney has no obligation to civility when he&#039;s involved in a confronatation. He may be excused any profanities or insults.

Mr. Webb, however, is obliged to be civil when he&#039;s confronted with an impertinent question. &lt;em&gt;That&lt;/em&gt; form of civility requires him not only to avoid profanity or insults, but to restrict his answer to only what was asked.

&lt;em&gt;Now&lt;/em&gt; do I have your position right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>See one was polite conversation, and the other began as a confrontation.</em></p>
<p>So Mr. Cheney has no obligation to civility when he&#8217;s involved in a confronatation. He may be excused any profanities or insults.</p>
<p>Mr. Webb, however, is obliged to be civil when he&#8217;s confronted with an impertinent question. <em>That</em> form of civility requires him not only to avoid profanity or insults, but to restrict his answer to only what was asked.</p>
<p><em>Now</em> do I have your position right?</p>
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		<title>By: dr pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51322</link>
		<dc:creator>dr pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you being deliberately obtuse?

the president asked a nice, concerned question, while leahy and the veep were haggling over either one persons good or bad religious behaviour or halliburton.

See one was polite conversation, and the other began as a confrontation.

Get it yet?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you being deliberately obtuse?</p>
<p>the president asked a nice, concerned question, while leahy and the veep were haggling over either one persons good or bad religious behaviour or halliburton.</p>
<p>See one was polite conversation, and the other began as a confrontation.</p>
<p>Get it yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/28/go-webb/#comment-51321</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;and received a rude reply.&lt;/em&gt;

Just checking.
Rude: &quot;I want them home.&quot;
Not rude: &quot;Go f**k yourself.&quot;

Right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>and received a rude reply.</em></p>
<p>Just checking.<br />
Rude: &#8220;I want them home.&#8221;<br />
Not rude: &#8220;Go f**k yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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