On Thanksgiving, the conservative Republican site Redstate produced an entry lauding the Sierra Nevada along with a painting representing it (along with the obligatory gratuitous dig at Europe) but it is this Republican president that has threatened to log the hell out of those same forests.
Much as with charitable giving…most republicans do more for the preservation of wilderness than do democrats. I am not sure why the liberals think that TALKING about preservation some how is better than actually doing it.
Yet another in a long string of liberal confusion…
most republicans do more for the preservation of wilderness than do democrats.
Yeah, I’ll remember that next time I’m a few miles out of town, looking at hundreds of acres of clear cuts from the past couple of years, in National Forest land. In an area that hasn’t seen clear cuts since the 1970s. Clear cuts by Sierra Pacific Industries, those notorious Democrats.
Oliver, as someone living in the Sierras, I can say that it’s not “threatened to,” it’s “already has.” Oh, and regardless of the increase in logging, we’ve had a very bad fire season. Imagine that – cutting down the forests doesn’t magically make them fireproof! You’d almost think the logging companies used “healthily harvested forests are safer from fires” as a cover, rather than something with scientific credibility.
It kinda figures that Redstate would go with a Kincaide theme and haul God into the picture, willing or unwilling. There are countless gorgeous photos of the Sierras, but appparently they feel a need to embellish the reality.
Well, they have two years to get the pardons prepared and the villas bought in the South of France and Paraguay. The rat lines and safe houses are being prepared.
It won’t take much digging to get the goods on the Neos. The boxes of the best stuff have been stored discretely for some years now. The IBM Selectric on which Karl did in Rather, it is in a storage bin somewhere in Anacostia.
Living at the Bush level in America is good if you have to eat a shit sandwich once in a while. The more bread you have the less shit you taste.
Lantern Bear
If I’m not mistaken this valley was submerged underwater when a dam was constructed in the 20’s.
The liberal pinkos are trying to tear down the dam and restore the valley.
Much as with a failed War, Treason and War Crimes, most Republicans believe lying to make their side appear correct on an issue is better then any admission of fact.
Naming a gift to the logging industry the “Healty Forests Initiative” did not make any forest healthy.
“I am not sure why the Republicans think that LYING about preservation some how is better than actually doing it.”
I think their just so comfortable lying as a defense, they forgot how weak it makes them on any issue.
Latern, the documents are right next to the box marked “Rose Law Firm”….
But George, if we tear down all the dams where are we going to get all our renewable electricity from?
See you liberals can never actually SEE the forest, only the individual trees…
Don’t worry about it Pedo, we’ll take care of it. You don’t worry your pretty little head over it. The time for liars is over. The time for failure is over. The adults are back in charge. Keep whistling into the wind all you want Pedo. Nobody buys your shit.
I wonder who might know about the Sierras?
Eureka!
Here’s what the Sierra Club has to say about Bush’s Healthy Forest Initiatiave.
http://www.sierraclub.org/forests/fires/healthyforests_initiative.asp
Pedro, I hate to break your bubble, but it is the crazy liberals like Ted Turner and the Nature Conservancy who are buying up parcels of land that will “inher in the people as a whole” to use a Teddy Roosevelt term. It is people like former Congresscritter Dick Pombo who wish to turn National Parks over to logging and mining interests.
z_adura
It’s the bubble that’s keeping pedugger sane … you notice the distinct lack of participation in the threads post-election?
All they do now is type an occasional “nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah” post then retreat back into the cave.
no I type quite a bit more than Nyah,nyah, but in response I get no sensible answers just tripe like ” Don’t worry we’ll take care of it…” typical lefty-speak for “we have no idea what we are doing”.
Having built quite a few miles of trails in the rockies and the sierras with the sierra club, I know a thing or two about them. The constant infighting and radical left agenda makes them almost impotent in spite of their size.
Check out this quieter and more effective organization to get an idea of what I mean about the republicans putting their money where their mouths are…
http://www.ducks.org/conservation/
dr pedro | Nov 26, 2006 6:36:34 PM
” … in response I get no sensible answers just tripe …”
Bullshit, pedugger. You don’t like the answers/responses you’re hearing and you know you have to continue listening to them because the American people took away the Republicans’ bullshit bullhorn.
The lack of cocky, arrogant ‘we know what we’re talking about … you Democrats have no idea what you’re talking about” responses from pedugger post-midterm election is obvious.
Hey “s”
How does
“It’s the bubble that’s keeping pedugger sane … you notice the distinct lack of participation in the threads post-election?
All they do now is type an occasional “nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah” post then retreat back into the cave.”
respond to”
Much as with charitable giving…most republicans do more for the preservation of wilderness than do democrats. I am not sure why the liberals think that TALKING about preservation some how is better than actually doing it
Hey “dr”
” … most republicans do more for the preservation of wilderness than do democrats …”
Mind numbing sweeping generalizations like this blow your argument to kingdom come and illustrate my point. Corroborating evidence, ple ..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Pedro, you are a very dishonest fellow.
Here’s why:
1) Republicans are the people who believe that golf ponds are wetlands:
http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/columnists/conservation/article/0,13199,1179434,00.html
2) Republicans are the people trying to sell off National Parks:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB113781040852752707-r9KilxW_oOS9WxhphxPs6nMy0sk_20070121.html?mod=blogs
3) Republicans are the people who think logging makes forests healthier:
http://www.sierraclub.org/forests/fires/healthyforests_initiative.asp
4) Republicans are the people who deny global warming:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/30/politics/main580915.shtml
I have no comment on whether you as a person are quietly doing your part for conservation. That is your decision as a person, not a party.
As a party, you guys are certainly not environmentally friendly.
“Dr.” Pedro should do his part to reduce global warming by keeping his lying mouth shut until he knows what he’s talking about.
redleg, with the approach progressives use on campus: outlaw thought you don’t like.
Dugger, you are certainly more free to shoot off your mouth here than I am at Redstate or Instapundit. OW even allows people like Dr. Pedro to claim brazen untruths like that which he’s posted above.
Whatever your beefs might be with progressives or liberals, it is certainly not related to our allowance of alternative ideas.
z,
If you are talking soley OW.com: yes, free interchange. If you are speaking in general, what with speech codes and talk being outlawed that makes groups feel uncomfortable, I disagree.
Dug, what about Bush pressers, or Bush speaking engagements, or the College Republican events? It seems to me that liberals are more open to dissent than conservatives… I think you are kidding yourself to believe otherwise.
So has anybody ever told Mr Redstate what state the Sierra Nevada are in?
Maybe he needs to change it to Redcounty; that would be closer to Western political reality.
Or maybe he does know, and the terror of encountering two Democratic female Jewish senators has kept him from ever venturing out here to see what the mountains really look like. I mean, that’s a very very pretty picture, but its spirit is European Romantic through and through, and it’s not a lot like California. Or anyplace else.
Which reminds me: mountains that dwarf the Alps? It takes nothing from my admiration for my native state (I grew out of thinking that way about 50 years ago) that there several more mountains in the Alps that top Mount Whitney than there are in the Sierra.
But you see, he has a true Red State attitude, all the worst of America, “Our mountains are better — and bigger, even though they aren’t — than your mountains.”
Not allowing access roads into forests prevents dousing fires, and getting rid of dead wood, trees too close together etc.
Futility in dousing fires leads to more loss of forestry than a few roads…
reading only “GREEN”,Democrat,See BS,etc will convince you that managing forests is evil…that ducks ignore golf ponds because manmade…Repubs trying selloff National Parks given to United Nations by liberals…1974 was last year for Global chilling mentioned in famous magazine article…mosquito-infested Anwar Alaska is reserved for mosquitos and moose who appear when cold kills off mosquitos!