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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49673</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sniff ... oh god ... snifffff ....

That&#039;s beautiful, pedugger.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sniff &#8230; oh god &#8230; snifffff &#8230;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s beautiful, pedugger.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49672</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW, &quot;Go sign up, Dugger&#039;

Shouldn&#039;t you at least do it once before I do it twice?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW, &#8220;Go sign up, Dugger&#8217;</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t you at least do it once before I do it twice?</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49671</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously this whole thing is biased. Just look at the doctored-up photo of smoke over Baghdad. The patriot nosepickers at LGF should be all over this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously this whole thing is biased. Just look at the doctored-up photo of smoke over Baghdad. The patriot nosepickers at LGF should be all over this.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49670</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 04:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoLLLLLL!!

Oliver, it appears you hit a nervsy wervsy with the fucking know it all ...

Dugger &#124; Nov 14, 2006 3:45:24 PM
&quot;Would the reporters be any less baised if I did go? BTW Rush Limabaugh went to Iraq and Afghan, you know. Does that mean he has much, much bigger balls than lil&#039; OW????? Letting Rush show you up in the courage department, OW? Over.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoLLLLLL!!</p>
<p>Oliver, it appears you hit a nervsy wervsy with the fucking know it all &#8230;</p>
<p>Dugger | Nov 14, 2006 3:45:24 PM<br />
&#8220;Would the reporters be any less baised if I did go? BTW Rush Limabaugh went to Iraq and Afghan, you know. Does that mean he has much, much bigger balls than lil&#8217; OW????? Letting Rush show you up in the courage department, OW? Over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond LeGrande</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49669</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond LeGrande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger&#039;s and his allies&#039;, like our misAdministration&#039;s, refusal to at least engage reality in Iraq is one of the most pro-terrorist acts I can imagine. bin Laden doesn&#039;t engage in Fantasyland terror, but rather real-world terror.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger&#8217;s and his allies&#8217;, like our misAdministration&#8217;s, refusal to at least engage reality in Iraq is one of the most pro-terrorist acts I can imagine. bin Laden doesn&#8217;t engage in Fantasyland terror, but rather real-world terror.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49668</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger, still waiting on that list of Bush administration WMD claims that turned out to be true.  Get back to work.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger, still waiting on that list of Bush administration WMD claims that turned out to be true.  Get back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49667</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I officially refuse to communicate with people this dumb. Go sign up, Dugger, because there&#039;s a decent soldier getting shot instead of Republican wastes of space.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I officially refuse to communicate with people this dumb. Go sign up, Dugger, because there&#8217;s a decent soldier getting shot instead of Republican wastes of space.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49666</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If those reporters are courageous, and most are, then Rush is too.&lt;/em&gt;

I wonder if they all had the same security arrangements...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If those reporters are courageous, and most are, then Rush is too.</em></p>
<p>I wonder if they all had the same security arrangements&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49665</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush can&#039;t have it both ways--either he was brave for going into a dangerous territory, or these liberal-bubblehead reporters are lying about how dangerous it is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush can&#8217;t have it both ways&#8211;either he was brave for going into a dangerous territory, or these liberal-bubblehead reporters are lying about how dangerous it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush flew around in a C-130 jump seat (ever done that, not comfortable)in Iraq and Afghan. A C-130 is much more vulnerable than a high flying jet - especially in less secure areas. If those reporters are courageous, and most are, then Rush is too.  Don&#039;t you hate it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush flew around in a C-130 jump seat (ever done that, not comfortable)in Iraq and Afghan. A C-130 is much more vulnerable than a high flying jet &#8211; especially in less secure areas. If those reporters are courageous, and most are, then Rush is too.  Don&#8217;t you hate it.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49663</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rush Limbaugh went for the Fraternity initiations.
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49662</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Dugger would go to Iraq and spend all his time drinking Scotch in the Green Zone, slurring about how the Iraqis &quot;Jush don geh it.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Dugger would go to Iraq and spend all his time drinking Scotch in the Green Zone, slurring about how the Iraqis &#8220;Jush don geh it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Rush Limabaugh went to Iraq and Afghan&lt;/em&gt;

Did he take his little blue pills along?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Rush Limabaugh went to Iraq and Afghan</em></p>
<p>Did he take his little blue pills along?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49660</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush Limbaugh went under protection of armed guard, controlled by Centcom. Ditto for Al Franken. These reporters are running around Iraq with the very real danger of being beheading. They&#039;ve got way more balls than either you or I have. Why are you so stupid?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush Limbaugh went under protection of armed guard, controlled by Centcom. Ditto for Al Franken. These reporters are running around Iraq with the very real danger of being beheading. They&#8217;ve got way more balls than either you or I have. Why are you so stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW,

Hey OW. Would the reporters be any less baised if I did go?  BTW Rush Limabaugh went to Iraq and Afghan, you know.  Does that mean he has much, much bigger balls than lil&#039; OW?????  Letting Rush show you up in the courage department, OW?

Over.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW,</p>
<p>Hey OW. Would the reporters be any less baised if I did go?  BTW Rush Limabaugh went to Iraq and Afghan, you know.  Does that mean he has much, much bigger balls than lil&#8217; OW?????  Letting Rush show you up in the courage department, OW?</p>
<p>Over.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49658</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is too funny not to be shared:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1541295,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1541295,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1541295,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is too funny not to be shared:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1541295,00.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1541295,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1541295,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49657</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger will never go to Iraq (even though it&#039;s safer than Los Angeles County!) because  he understands the &quot;macro geopolitical situation&quot; there: People get killed in Iraq.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger will never go to Iraq (even though it&#8217;s safer than Los Angeles County!) because  he understands the &#8220;macro geopolitical situation&#8221; there: People get killed in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dugger, why don&#039;t you show some balls and go report from Iraq before bleating about &quot;biased&quot; reporters and sounding again like an idiot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dugger, why don&#8217;t you show some balls and go report from Iraq before bleating about &#8220;biased&#8221; reporters and sounding again like an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/11/14/how-iraq-was-lost/#comment-49655</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There goes Dugger knocking back his kool-aid and depending on the  opinion of his Love Leaders.  After all, what would average Iraqis care or know more about the macro-political forces that now rule their country.  No one knows enough except the all-powerful George Bush, and his hand picked Team of Wheaty-Eaters!

And the reporters!  Oh those biased reporters!  Reporting on the negatives and not the positives!  Those reporters should focus on the shiny schools with fresh coats of paint and not on the teachers being dragged out and shot in front of the students.  If the reporters run stories that aren&#039;t full of praise for George Bush&#039;s macro political genius they are biased.

So Dugger, if we start with your premise that Bush and his team can see a macro political landscape that makes them nearly omniscient, why are they wrong all the time?  We can start with the premises they put forward for the war, NO WMDs, no anti US terrorist ties, no threat to the US.  Then go into their lack of understanding and planning for the aftermath of the war because they strictly based it only on what they wrongly supposed would happen (greeted as liberators).  Next look at the last 3+ years of failing to adapt to the deteriorating security situation brought on by that lack of planning.  Next look at the worsening terrorism situation in the world.  Etc Etc Etc...  Now again, Dugger, tell us of this know-all macro-political genius we should all rely on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes Dugger knocking back his kool-aid and depending on the  opinion of his Love Leaders.  After all, what would average Iraqis care or know more about the macro-political forces that now rule their country.  No one knows enough except the all-powerful George Bush, and his hand picked Team of Wheaty-Eaters!</p>
<p>And the reporters!  Oh those biased reporters!  Reporting on the negatives and not the positives!  Those reporters should focus on the shiny schools with fresh coats of paint and not on the teachers being dragged out and shot in front of the students.  If the reporters run stories that aren&#8217;t full of praise for George Bush&#8217;s macro political genius they are biased.</p>
<p>So Dugger, if we start with your premise that Bush and his team can see a macro political landscape that makes them nearly omniscient, why are they wrong all the time?  We can start with the premises they put forward for the war, NO WMDs, no anti US terrorist ties, no threat to the US.  Then go into their lack of understanding and planning for the aftermath of the war because they strictly based it only on what they wrongly supposed would happen (greeted as liberators).  Next look at the last 3+ years of failing to adapt to the deteriorating security situation brought on by that lack of planning.  Next look at the worsening terrorism situation in the world.  Etc Etc Etc&#8230;  Now again, Dugger, tell us of this know-all macro-political genius we should all rely on.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ordinary Iraqi citizen is going to end up &lt;i&gt;shaping&lt;/i&gt; the macro geopolitical situation in Iraq--because it&#039;s ordinary Iraqi citizens who are either (a) joining the insurgency or (b) being attacked by it.

I would love to see you go up to one of these Iraqi citizens and tell them &quot;it&#039;s okay, your brother/sister/wife/child died for larger geopolitical issues that you can&#039;t possibly understand as well as politicians and soldiers. Just hang in there and you&#039;ll thank us later. Why, you won&#039;t even remember that feeling of hatred you had after the country&#039;s all better!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ordinary Iraqi citizen is going to end up <i>shaping</i> the macro geopolitical situation in Iraq&#8211;because it&#8217;s ordinary Iraqi citizens who are either (a) joining the insurgency or (b) being attacked by it.</p>
<p>I would love to see you go up to one of these Iraqi citizens and tell them &#8220;it&#8217;s okay, your brother/sister/wife/child died for larger geopolitical issues that you can&#8217;t possibly understand as well as politicians and soldiers. Just hang in there and you&#8217;ll thank us later. Why, you won&#8217;t even remember that feeling of hatred you had after the country&#8217;s all better!</p>
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