Actually, bigoted would be a better word than racist.

And saying “They’re true” just makes you look stupid.

If you say that Black Republican candidates for public office and Black Republican office holders are nothing but ‘tokens’ and/or ‘props’ that’s racist.

If you say that a Black person who votes for a Republican is a Black person that has no self-respect, that’s racist.

It is a mindset that has a superiority complex of which the foundation of racism is built. White people who say such things are essentially saying, : “Those stupid Black people. They don’t know what the hell they are doing. Allowing themselves to be used like that. They have no self-respect.”

Now, I challenge a person like Factcheck to go out to the average East Orange neighborhood, and take a poll asking if any of them supported a Republican or voted for a Republican. When he gets that ‘Yea’, I’d like to see him tell that person they have no self respect.

Right. Equating voting for a Republican to supporting church burnings is a valid viewpoint. You’ve got some SERIOUS issues man.

I don’t tell my students anything about politics, it’s not my place. But that’s another stereotype you have to workout Crazy j.

Doesn’t matter. Don’t give us the high and mighty “I’m such a good white liberal” nonsense when you spout racist crap like saying Blacks who vote Republican have no self respect.

BTW, Crazy J, I live in the East Orange area. I didn’t run off to Florida because I couldn’t make it here.

God what a retard. Now people move because they “couldn’t make it” somewhere else? Puh-lease. Yeah and you live in the East Orange area. Where? West Orange? South Orange?

I don’t care to know you Marty.

And that’s why you’re as close minded as you are. Apparently, you live a very sheltered life if the only people you socialize with are other liberals.

Make me understand how you can support a party that racebaits and takes meetings with the CCC.

Ok, so then it is fair to say that the Democratic party takes meetings with an anti-semitic quasi-terrorist organization like CAIR correct?

Make me understand how you can support a party that does that.

Maybe you need to understand where me and a lot of other white folk around here are coming from. Many of us have grandfathers, uncles, fathers who were in the KKK. Many of us have cousins, brothers, old college roommates who belong to the Kouncils of Koncerned Kitizens. Many of us have gone to weddings at white country clubs in the Atlanta suburbs, or have sat in white barbershops in little Alabama towns.

We know that culture, and we know the language. We know what the jungle drums and the playboy bunnies mean. It’s not just clumsy message packaging, it is the message.

And it may not be so easy to see from outside, but those of us who have been in that (fortunately fading) part of white culture have to wonder why any person of conscience, black or white or brown or grey, would want anything to do with it.

So when we see the white hierarchy of the Republican party colluding in this crypto-racism and trying to paper over it by supporting a handful of black candidates, we recoginize it for what it is: blatant hypocrisy.

Marty, respectfully, why is factcheck racist whereas Jay’s statement is acceptable:

Jay | Nov 13, 2006 8:41:01 PM
“The fact is, people with such attitudes have not spent any significant time with people in the Black community.”

We’re all human, not black, white or otherwise, are we not?

Whether overt or covert, intentional or not, both major parties make major mistakes on race. The race baiting and pandering from the Democrats and the left is no less offensive to me than anything the Republican party has done- including the sheer stupidity of some things they should have realized would be seized upon no matter what the real intention. (i.e. Tennessee- but I’ve already given my view on that.)

So my focus is always hinges on the issues that affect my children, my community, and the future of this country. I’d rather vote for an issue that I think is right.

It doesn’t matter to me if you or anyone else agrees with me. I think for myself based on what I know and learn.

Your ‘I live around black people and I know what’s best for you’ attitude and your tired little “bashed my people” argument does not impress me. You bash “my people” every time you say something like that. What you’re really saying is that the only thing black people should care about is their race. They shouldn’t care about issues. To you, race trumps all. You should ’stick with your own kind.’ ‘I know best for you because I’m a good white person.’

That condecension to me is the epitomy of racism. And it’s not uncommon among white Democrats. Even some black Democrats are sick of it.

It appears the American people concurred with “our party”, Jay. It’s why your party was wiped off the slate.

Am wondering about this:
” … people with such attitudes have not spent any significant time with people in the Black community …”
Interesting perspective, Jay. I always thought it as the human community.

BTW, Crazy J, I live in the East Orange area. I didn’t run off to Florida because I couldn’t make it here.

Factcheck- your whole premise about me is racist from your holier than thou perch and your “I know what’s best for you black people” attitude.

You have the nerve to comment on self-respect just because you know a few black people and teach a class of black children? How benevolent of you!

You want to talk about issues, and how I came to my opinions and why I think that one solution may be better than another, and why I agree with one party or another on various issues, then bring it.

But keep your condescending BS about what I’m supposed to feel as a black man to yourself. You don’t know me, you didn’t grow up in my skin or know my heritage (of which I am very proud) and you don’t live my life every day.

You white guilt does not impress me in the least so keep the pity as well as the disdain to yourself. You haven’t earned the right.

I’m no troll here. I’ve been commenting here for at least four years, and while I disagree with Oliver on most things political there are many things we do agree on. I do my best to remain civil here in spite of the fact that many of you who think you belong here do not extend the same courtesy.

And while Oliver and I don’t agree much, I’d probably be the first to buy him a beer if I ever ran into him. I respect what he does here, regardless or whether I agree with him or not.

I don’t tell my students anything about politics, it’s not my place. But that’s another stereotype you have to workout Crazy j.

Wow! A whole third! You da man! Dude, I grew up here. For three years I worked in the Newark/East Orange/Irvington area. Don’t try to compare bona fides because you don’t stand a chance. As for stereotyping, you should look in the mirror.

As for that classroom of kids, why don’t you tell them to go and tell their parents that if any of them vote Republican it’s because they have no self respect. See how that pans out oh insightful one.

That’s why you troll liberal boards, because you don’t care about the outcome of elections.

Troll? No. I’ve been posting commentary here longer than you have. It’s unfortunate that Oliver attracted spillover from the Atrios cesspool.

Because we have “keen insight on racial issues”, we vote Democratic, not the other way around.

But you don’t have keen insights. That’s the problem.

My keen insight is that my party doesn’t racebait.

Guess what jackass? When your party runs ads saying a vote for a Republican is a vote for another burned church, that’s racebaiting. When your party is saying the Bush administration purposely allowed a slow response to Katrina because most of the residents affected were black is racebaiting. I could go on, but you won’t see it with those blinders on.

Sad that the highest ranking black Republicans are in the State Assembly. Only ONE is even in a state Senate. Yea, crazy j tell us about all those elected black Republicans.

So get stuck Sheets.”

Poor Jay. Writhing in post-election denial … as madsy wadsy as Marpedrugger was a few days ago. LoL!!

And once again Crazy j gets it exactly wrong. Because we have “keen insight on racial issues”, we vote Democratic, not the other way around. My keen insight is that my party doesn’t racebait.

“And who cares if the GOP lost?”

That’s why you troll liberal boards, because you don’t care about the outcome of elections. The only person that appreciates your presence here is dugger, and that’s only because if you go he inherits the crown of King Jackass.

” … people with such attitudes have not spent any significant time with people in the Black community …”
Interesting perspective, Jay. I always thought it as the human community.