First. Both parties supported the war. Its Bush’s war and the bi partisan Congress’ war.

Second. Its legal.

Third. The war is ongoing. I support our engaged forces. Don’t you? You want to talk about why it started – thats different.

The fact that Saddam’s death total per year is higher is only a rejoinder to the exploitation of war deaths on this site by the left. It is not a justification used by the Admin or Congress for the war – to my knowledge.

I have said many times, I probably would not have gone into Iraq in the first place. That does not change the fact that there were more deaths under Saddam. Other than all of the errors and fundamental misconceptions, good post — for you.

Exactly how small does the difference in the number of deaths per year have to be for you to stop supporting Bush’s illegal war? What if Saddam killed 2 more people per year than Bush’s illegal war? Is that enough? Would you still support it?

Since your main justification for the war seems to be that fewer people are dying per year (which may or may not be the case) I’d just like to know what the threshold of acceptance is. Are we talking two? Two thousand? Two million? What’s the magic number?

But under Saddam, more brown people died. Don’t take my word for it. Do the math from middle of the road web sites and you’ll find that total deaths under Saddam (Kurds, political murders, Iran/Iraq war etc) versus total deaths in Iraq since Saddam was deposed were higher – per annum.

I am not an evnagelical but growing up in the deep south, the ones I knew were much more like Jimmy Carter – we were all ‘brothers’ regardless of our background (but, true, Christian brothers). The real haters (say like McVeigh) weren’t the deeply, evangelical religious – that I saw. But others may have had different experiences.

We know, Dugs, we know. You like to steal it and drink it. Explains the incoherent thoughts you spew from your keyboard.

That’s an absurd statement.

Hypocrisy is not limited to any religion or faith or person.

Agreed. The argument shouldn’t be over religion. It should be over keeping religion out of government.

How about invading another country because GOD tells you to? Is that Taliban-like? I’d say so. I’m not saying that Hagee is that nuts, but you gotta keep an eye on those evangelical types.

Jehovahs’ Witness: on’t you want to go to the Paradise pictured here in this brochure?”
Me: “Well, no, not if it’s full of Jehovahs Witnesses!”

Actually, Dugger, you asserted that liberals base our belief that Bush is a liar on faith. In fact, we base it on clear evidence, regardless of your inane, mindreading proof standard. Typical weasel behavior from dishonorable, bad faith Dugger, though.

That describes every atheist I know. OTOH, I have never heard an atheist preach for years against something that it later turns out he participates in.

Apparently hypocrisy is limited to the religious.

So fucking what? Are we supposed to give them medals or something for doing what everyone is supposed to do/should do anyway?

Um, ya. Apparently he
did:

I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are–were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade on the Monday that the Katrina came, and the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing.

But don’t sneer at him. He beleives in Jesus. He has ALL the answers.

Especially religious people who are convinced that other religious people are going to spen an eternity in damnation. Boy, you sure wouldn’t want to sneer at them unless you had ALL the answers.

Timing, Dugger. Don’t try to sell this bill of goods until at least a week after the Haggard mess.

Being born-again doesn’t purify you. It just means you believe you’re purified.