Comments on: The Blotter http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:00:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46934 Nimrod Gently Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:39:45 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46934 Also his cousin George was from another planet, constantly reporting back to a hidden mothership! WE'RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE Also his cousin George was from another planet, constantly reporting back to a hidden mothership!

WE’RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46933 Quaker in a Basement Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:18:55 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46933 <em>For God sakes, his brother was a freaking drug dealer.</em> See Ian? That's just what I'm talking about. If brother Roger is one of the 47 defendants who were "associated with the Clinton machine," that shows just how phony that claim is. What the heck does <em>Roger</em> Clinton have to do with anything? For God sakes, his brother was a freaking drug dealer.

See Ian? That’s just what I’m talking about.

If brother Roger is one of the 47 defendants who were “associated with the Clinton machine,” that shows just how phony that claim is.

What the heck does Roger Clinton have to do with anything?

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46932 Duros62 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:38:52 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46932 Maybe that's where Bush bought his coke. Maybe that’s where Bush bought his coke.

]]> By: (: Tom :) http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46931 (: Tom :) Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:50:30 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46931 <i>For God sakes, his brother was a freaking drug dealer.</i> <i>I suspect that you still won't be happy. Once a Clinton apologist, always a Clinton apologist.</i> <i>Posted by: Ian | Oct 18, 2006 8:07:22 PM</i> I would like to take this time to point out to the studio audience that the brother of the current pResident was one of the Keating Five, who defrauded millions of people during the Ray-Gun years in the Savings and Loan scandal. For some strange reason, no one seems to remember that, but it seems that they can always point out Roger Clinton's and Billy Carter's foibles off the top of their head. Oh yeah - and Kneel Putsch had Thai hookers delivered to his hotel suite earlier this year. But the eeeeeevul Clenis had a brother who might have been a drug dealer at one point in his life, and Carter's brother was a drunk - so I guess that sorta balances out. In a pig's eye. Once a Republican't Putsch fellator, always a Republican't Putsch fellator. Project much? For God sakes, his brother was a freaking drug dealer.

I suspect that you still won’t be happy. Once a Clinton apologist, always a Clinton apologist.

Posted by: Ian | Oct 18, 2006 8:07:22 PM

I would like to take this time to point out to the studio audience that the brother of the current pResident was one of the Keating Five, who defrauded millions of people during the Ray-Gun years in the Savings and Loan scandal. For some strange reason, no one seems to remember that, but it seems that they can always point out Roger Clinton’s and Billy Carter’s foibles off the top of their head.

Oh yeah – and Kneel Putsch had Thai hookers delivered to his hotel suite earlier this year.

But the eeeeeevul Clenis had a brother who might have been a drug dealer at one point in his life, and Carter’s brother was a drunk – so I guess that sorta balances out.

In a pig’s eye.

Once a Republican’t Putsch fellator, always a Republican’t Putsch fellator. Project much?

]]> By: S http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46930 S Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:28:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46930 Jay's still smarting that his friend, JK, with whom he has oodles of "history", disagreed fundamentally with him. He feels better calling others idiots and stupid. Jay’s still smarting that his friend, JK, with whom he has oodles of “history”, disagreed fundamentally with him. He feels better calling others idiots and stupid.

]]> By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46929 Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:03:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46929 Jay, you're a typical troll, trying to derail a thread to yammer about your own personal hobbyhorse. I don't give a shit about your desperate plea that I prove Andy Card committed a crime. What I care about is the fact -- too hot to touch by you or Ian, obviously -- that the GOP Congress was selling out to the Marianas sweatshops, who were forcing women into prostitution and forcing them to have abortions if they got pregnant. Why is it okay that your heroes approved of this, Jay? Why are you so scared to address the real, harmful, and widespread corruption in your party, Jay? Why are you so scared of acting like a man, Jay? Did you ever have principles, Jay, or did the years of talk radio and black-helicopter/Streisand/Fonda/Vince Foster conspiracies gradually erode them? At what point did irrational, bug-eyed terror and hatred of liberals subsume every other fact and principle in your head? Jay, you’re a typical troll, trying to derail a thread to yammer about your own personal hobbyhorse. I don’t give a shit about your desperate plea that I prove Andy Card committed a crime. What I care about is the fact — too hot to touch by you or Ian, obviously — that the GOP Congress was selling out to the Marianas sweatshops, who were forcing women into prostitution and forcing them to have abortions if they got pregnant. Why is it okay that your heroes approved of this, Jay? Why are you so scared to address the real, harmful, and widespread corruption in your party, Jay? Why are you so scared of acting like a man, Jay? Did you ever have principles, Jay, or did the years of talk radio and black-helicopter/Streisand/Fonda/Vince Foster conspiracies gradually erode them? At what point did irrational, bug-eyed terror and hatred of liberals subsume every other fact and principle in your head?

]]> By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46928 midderpidge Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:19:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46928 Jay's right, other than being people willing to sell their political connections for cash, these guys did nothing legally wrong that we know about. But don't worry Jay, there are hundreds of other Republicans we could focus on. From Foley to the entire Kentucky GOP leadership. From Bush to the entire Alaska GOP leadership. From Rumsfeld to the entire Ohio GOP leadership. So Oliver, why don't you put together a list of GOP criminals or alleged criminals and leave the Sellout Card out of it. Jay’s right, other than being people willing to sell their political connections for cash, these guys did nothing legally wrong that we know about. But don’t worry Jay, there are hundreds of other Republicans we could focus on. From Foley to the entire Kentucky GOP leadership. From Bush to the entire Alaska GOP leadership. From Rumsfeld to the entire Ohio GOP leadership. So Oliver, why don’t you put together a list of GOP criminals or alleged criminals and leave the Sellout Card out of it.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46927 Nimrod Gently Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:13:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46927 Give me half a chance, that's a lot of people. Clarification: under Andy Card I probably should have said "many" instead of "most". Give me half a chance, that’s a lot of people.

Clarification: under Andy Card I probably should have said “many” instead of “most”.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46926 Jay Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:10:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46926 Dr., again - tell us what crimes the following people have committed or have been accused of committing: Andy Card John Ashcroft Porter Goss Richard Shelby James Dobson Scott McClellan Ted Stevens Philip Merrill You won't answer and neither will anybody else. Why? Because you're gutless. God forbid you actually step outside the boundaries of Liberalville and say something like "You know, while there are real crooks like Jack Abramoff on this list, calling people like Andy Card and Porter Goss criminals is wrong. And calling Philip Merrill, a man who was never accused of any wrongdoing of being murdered is wrong." You couldn't do that for fear of being pushed off the reservation. And you call me spineless? Look in the mirror pal. Dr., again – tell us what crimes the following people have committed or have been accused of committing:

Andy Card
John Ashcroft
Porter Goss
Richard Shelby
James Dobson
Scott McClellan
Ted Stevens
Philip Merrill

You won’t answer and neither will anybody else. Why? Because you’re gutless. God forbid you actually step outside the boundaries of Liberalville and say something like “You know, while there are real crooks like Jack Abramoff on this list, calling people like Andy Card and Porter Goss criminals is wrong. And calling Philip Merrill, a man who was never accused of any wrongdoing of being murdered is wrong.” You couldn’t do that for fear of being pushed off the reservation.

And you call me spineless? Look in the mirror pal.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46925 Nimrod Gently Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:07:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46925 1) "He assisted the President with many of his policy decisions and managed the daily operations of the White House staff." - given that most of those policy decisions were criminal that makes him an accessory 2) Being John Ashcroft, also more or less everything he did as Attorney General 3) Co-organizing the Bay of Pigs invasion for one thing 4) Are you kidding? <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40886-2004Aug4.html" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40886-2004Aug4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40886-2004Aug4.html</a></a> 5) Being James Dobson, not even attempting to reconcile his profoundly disturbing Focus on the Family crusade with his defence of Mark Foley 6) Maybe not a crook so much as very bad at his job 7) Are you kidding? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Ted_Stevens" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Ted_Stevens" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Ted_Stevens</a></a> Series of tubes my arse 8) You really thi nk there isn't more to this thing than we're being told? He must have done something or pissed someone off or <i>something</i>. You're not wrong, exactly, some of those people are more dicks than actual crooks, but you're being so obnoxious about it (which was what I was objecting to in the first place, if you look) it makes no odds. 1) “He assisted the President with many of his policy decisions and managed the daily operations of the White House staff.” – given that most of those policy decisions were criminal that makes him an accessory

2) Being John Ashcroft, also more or less everything he did as Attorney General

3) Co-organizing the Bay of Pigs invasion for one thing

4) Are you kidding? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40886-2004Aug4.html

5) Being James Dobson, not even attempting to reconcile his profoundly disturbing Focus on the Family crusade with his defence of Mark Foley

6) Maybe not a crook so much as very bad at his job

7) Are you kidding? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Ted_Stevens Series of tubes my arse
8) You really thi nk there isn’t more to this thing than we’re being told? He must have done something or pissed someone off or something.

You’re not wrong, exactly, some of those people are more dicks than actual crooks, but you’re being so obnoxious about it (which was what I was objecting to in the first place, if you look) it makes no odds.

]]> By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46924 Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:51:14 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46924 Jay's terrified of talking about the fact that Abramoff was paying Mehlman, DeLay, and the Republican Congress to ensure that the Marianas sweatshops could continue to force women into prostitution, and force them to have abortions if they got pregnant. Having nothing to say about Republican corruption -- that's what makes you so spineless and sad, Jay. Jay’s terrified of talking about the fact that Abramoff was paying Mehlman, DeLay, and the Republican Congress to ensure that the Marianas sweatshops could continue to force women into prostitution, and force them to have abortions if they got pregnant.

Having nothing to say about Republican corruption — that’s what makes you so spineless and sad, Jay.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46923 Jay Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:31:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46923 Hey Nimrod, care to share with the rest of the class exactly what crimes the following people have been accused of or committed: Andy Card John Ashcroft Porter Goss Richard Shelby James Dobson Scott McClellan Ted Stevens Philip Merrill (This one is freaking HILARIOUS - Wonkette links to a site called SPLOID that does a Vince Foster like, "Who killed Philip Merrill?" number on you clowns) Explain Nimrod. Tell us all why that list is NOT stupid. Hey Nimrod, care to share with the rest of the class exactly what crimes the following people have been accused of or committed:

Andy Card
John Ashcroft
Porter Goss
Richard Shelby
James Dobson
Scott McClellan
Ted Stevens
Philip Merrill (This one is freaking HILARIOUS – Wonkette links to a site called SPLOID that does a Vince Foster like, “Who killed Philip Merrill?” number on you clowns)

Explain Nimrod. Tell us all why that list is NOT stupid.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46922 Nimrod Gently Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:13:45 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46922 Well, I guess that's settled. It's a stupid list for stupids because Jay said so and that's all there is to it and if you disagree you're a stinkypants. To you, Jay, dignity is just something that happens to other people, isn't it? Well, I guess that’s settled. It’s a stupid list for stupids because Jay said so and that’s all there is to it and if you disagree you’re a stinkypants.

To you, Jay, dignity is just something that happens to other people, isn’t it?

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46921 Jay Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:13:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46921 Ok, so it wasn't Cox. It was some other idiot (or idiots) that took over for her So what? It's still a stupid list and as such, it doesn't surprise me that you approvingly linked to it. Ok, so it wasn’t Cox. It was some other idiot (or idiots) that took over for her So what? It’s still a stupid list and as such, it doesn’t surprise me that you approvingly linked to it.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46920 Oliver Willis Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:39:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46920 Ana Marie Cox hasn't written for Wonkette for something like 2 years. I'm glad you're checking the facts there, Jay. Ana Marie Cox hasn’t written for Wonkette for something like 2 years. I’m glad you’re checking the facts there, Jay.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46919 Quaker in a Basement Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:13:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46919 <em>Wow, you are willfully ignant.</em> Priceless. Tutoring available, Ian. All you have to do is ask. Wow, you are willfully ignant.

Priceless.

Tutoring available, Ian. All you have to do is ask.

]]> By: Jayhttp://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/the_blotter.html#comments http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46918 Jayhttp://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/the_blotter.html#comments Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:52:39 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46918 This is the stupidest fucking list I have ever read. Leave it to a marginally talented tramp like Ana Marie Cox to create something so dumb and for Oliver to slobber over it. Almost half the list are people that left the administration (like that has never happened) and as if doing so proves they were into something illegal. Lap it up lapdogs. This is the stupidest fucking list I have ever read. Leave it to a marginally talented tramp like Ana Marie Cox to create something so dumb and for Oliver to slobber over it.

Almost half the list are people that left the administration (like that has never happened) and as if doing so proves they were into something illegal.

Lap it up lapdogs.

]]> By: Sundown http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46917 Sundown Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:00:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46917 So people should be judged based on the actions of siblings, is that you're menatlity, Ian? So people should be judged based on the actions of siblings, is that you’re menatlity, Ian?

]]> By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46916 Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:55:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46916 Embarassing, Ian. Are you trying to make conservatives look as defensive, lazy, and dishonest as possible? Are you employed by HoDean or Barbara Streisand? Embarassing, Ian. Are you trying to make conservatives look as defensive, lazy, and dishonest as possible? Are you employed by HoDean or Barbara Streisand?

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/18/the-blotter/#comment-46915 Quaker in a Basement Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:36:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2902#comment-46915 Yes, Ian, you do have to name names. When you cite something like this: <blockquote>- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47 </blockquote> we have no way of knowing just how these defendants were "associated" with Mr. Clinton. Were they White House staffers? Cabinet officials? Childhood friends? People with the same initials? Rule #1 of reading right-wing spin: If the details are hidden, there's a good reason. Yes, Ian, you do have to name names.

When you cite something like this:

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47

we have no way of knowing just how these defendants were “associated” with Mr. Clinton.

Were they White House staffers? Cabinet officials? Childhood friends? People with the same initials?

Rule #1 of reading right-wing spin: If the details are hidden, there’s a good reason.

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