Comments on: This Is Going To Happen

By: doug r

doug r — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:20:47 +0000

Bush cut and run from Vietnam.
Bush cut and run from TANG.
Bush cut and run from “Osama Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US”.
Bush cut and run from Afghanistan.
How is this any different?

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:29:45 +0000

It uses “cut and run” as an illustration of how the Republicans will frame any attempt to withdraw from Iraq. To fail to understand that you’d have to be deliberately obtuse or simply stupid. Which is it?

By: z adura

z adura — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:42:31 +0000

Dugger, you are too stupid to understand this but we don’t control our own destiny in Iraq. Our military is overstretched and is breaking down. With current troop levels, we can’t manage security. The Brits are leaving, which means we either need to increase troops by 7,500 or leave the South to the mercy of Iran. Frankly, it’s cut now or cut later. The former is certainly cheaper and 20 years from now we will ask why it didn’t happen in 2004.

By: midderpidge

midderpidge — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:13:52 +0000

Besides the fact we never should have invaded Iraq, If Bush Had Sent A Sufficient Number Of Troops To Provide Adequate Security To The Country, There Would Not Be So Much Civil Unrest and We Wouldn’t Be Losing So Many Soldiers, Money, and We Wouldn’t Look To Be So Weak to The Terrorists and THe Rest Of The World.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:39:45 +0000

Well Nim, You said this.

‘Republicans will blame the Democrats for EVERYTHING that went wrong with Iraq merely on the basis that they withdrew.’

Note you curiously used the word “withdrew”. Yet the write up doesn’t say withdrew, its says ‘cut and run’. But I guess you know what the author meant.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:39:39 +0000

Well Nim, You said this.

‘Republicans will blame the Democrats for EVERYTHING that went wrong with Iraq merely on the basis that they withdrew.’

Note you curiously used the word “withdrew”. Yet the write up doesn’t say withdrew, its says ‘cut and run’. But I guess you know what the author meant.

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:51:48 +0000

So yes, you misread that deliberately. Thank you.

By: Bushwhacked

Bushwhacked — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:39:02 +0000

I suppose democrats will be blamed when the British "cut and run". How long do you think Blair is going to stand up against his own military, who is now questioning the legitimacy of further participation in this Bush Boondoggle?

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:31:43 +0000

2002? You’re being kind.

By: Rheinhard

Rheinhard — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:29:17 +0000

Nimrod – precisely. Democrats will have been responsible for everything back to 2002. And you can be sure that every soldier killed from November 8 onward (even though newly elected members of Congress would not be seated until January) will be the entire fault of the Democrats.

By: Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy

Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:27:53 +0000

Bush already lost the war, making our exit inevitable. It also means that when he or his worshippers try to pin it on Democrats, that it’s a dishonest, dishonorable lie.

What’s so hard to understand about that, Dugger? I thought your party claimed to be “responsible.” But it turns out that you’re cowards as well as idiots, sadly.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:26:54 +0000

All the humi(li)ation was from pre ‘cut and run’ events, right?

Um, yeah, pretty much.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:20:37 +0000

Hmm. Nimmer,

The write up says this: ‘expect to see the seeds of a conservative campaign to blame our humiliating experience in Mesopotamia on the Democrats who came to power and forced us to cut and run.’

So you do not see any of the anticipated ‘humiliation’ coming from the ‘cut and run’ despite the sentence structure? All the humiation was from pre ‘cut and run’ events, right?

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:00:20 +0000

Did you misread that deliberately, Dugger?

NOW you’re getting it.

By: Nimrod Gently

Nimrod Gently — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:56:12 +0000

Did you misread that deliberately, Dugger? The point Chotiner was making was that the Republicans will blame the Democrats for EVERYTHING that went wrong with Iraq merely on the basis that they withdrew.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:45:23 +0000

Why don’t we just amke it the 51st state, fachrissakes?

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:38:13 +0000

So, Dugger, just clarify something for me. You support a permanent occupation of Iraq, then? Do you forsee any time in the near future when US troops can come home? Or are we stuck there til the Rapture comes?

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:20:36 +0000

Wow. The breathtaking hypocrisy!

Progressives whoop and holler for cut and run and/or withdrawal from Iraq and demonize anyone who doesn’t agree with them.. Now, ahead of time, they are disgorging big ‘ol crocodile tears because somebody might think they influenced a policy to withdraw that had bad consequences. Fine then. if that scares you, support staying in Iraq or shut your yap. Three good alternatives.

Boggles the mind! If you are going to advocate withdrawal from Iraq, at least stand up like a mature man or woman and admit you are advocating defeat of this country and accept the consequences therefrom.

You want to get your way and then be completely inocluated from the consequences of having gotten your way.