Comments on: The Problem With Studio 60 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:37:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46342 Duros62 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:55:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46342 Sorkin is a huge G&S fan. He did the same thing in WW. The biggest problem I have with the show is the same problem I had with WW. The dialogue is SO fast and complex, I have to turn the TV up really loud just to catch it. Then the commercials come on and blast me out of my seat. Give it time, O. I think, like SportsNight, its a slow burn. Sorkin is a huge G&S fan. He did the same thing in WW.

The biggest problem I have with the show is the same problem I had with WW. The dialogue is SO fast and complex, I have to turn the TV up really loud just to catch it. Then the commercials come on and blast me out of my seat.
Give it time, O. I think, like SportsNight, its a slow burn.

]]> By: Randy Gold http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46341 Randy Gold Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:38:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46341 I watched the first 2 episodes. Seemed just a little too smug in trying to project to us how wonderfully clever they thought they were.... something that the Aaron Sorkin <em>West Wing</em> often did. <em>The West Wing</em> was a far more compelling show, so it could get away with it. The Gilbert & Sullivan sketch was a perfect example. The process that led to this in the episode tried to make us think that this was the greatest idea since sliced bread. The on-air result showed how horrible it was: a huge chorus and accompanying orchestra was the whole thing, yet you mostly couldn't understand what they were singing. Not exactly a great comedy sketch. I watched the first 2 episodes. Seemed just a little too smug in trying to project to us how wonderfully clever they thought they were…. something that the Aaron Sorkin West Wing often did. The West Wing was a far more compelling show, so it could get away with it.

The Gilbert & Sullivan sketch was a perfect example. The process that led to this in the episode tried to make us think that this was the greatest idea since sliced bread. The on-air result showed how horrible it was: a huge chorus and accompanying orchestra was the whole thing, yet you mostly couldn’t understand what they were singing. Not exactly a great comedy sketch.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46340 Jay Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:14:27 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46340 What really sucks is that NBC already pulled the plug on 'Kidnapped' which thus far has been a great show. What really sucks is that NBC already pulled the plug on ‘Kidnapped’ which thus far has been a great show.

]]> By: jimmmm http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46339 jimmmm Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:39:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46339 The problem with ANY Sorkin show is that he cannot distinguish between MORE dialogue and BETTER dialogue. The reality force-field that surrounds this guy us amazing--he could shit, and many would say it tastes like ice cream. The problem with ANY Sorkin show is that he cannot distinguish between MORE dialogue and BETTER dialogue.

The reality force-field that surrounds this guy us amazing–he could shit, and many would say it tastes like ice cream.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46338 Oliver Willis Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:23:19 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46338 See I thought the pilot was weak. Compare this pilot to the Sportsnight or West Wing pilot episodes - no comparison. Sunset Strip is better than the average stuff the networks put out, but it's not at Sorkin level. Right now I'm watching the Law & Orders, House, CSI, Heroes, and my current favorite: Lost. And the super sappy show that I make sure to watch every Sunday because I get the warm fuzzies from it: Extreme Makeover Home Edition. See I thought the pilot was weak. Compare this pilot to the Sportsnight or West Wing pilot episodes – no comparison. Sunset Strip is better than the average stuff the networks put out, but it’s not at Sorkin level.

Right now I’m watching the Law & Orders, House, CSI, Heroes, and my current favorite: Lost.

And the super sappy show that I make sure to watch every Sunday because I get the warm fuzzies from it: Extreme Makeover Home Edition.

]]> By: Mike http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46337 Mike Wed, 11 Oct 2006 02:20:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46337 <i>On the flip side I really like Heroes and I think the plot there is developing nicely, thanks to the steady hand of comic writer Jeph Loeb: read this)</i> I like Hero's too, but how many more times can indestructible girl 'die' before people start shouting "Oh, my God! They killed Claire! You bastards!" On the flip side I really like Heroes and I think the plot there is developing nicely, thanks to the steady hand of comic writer Jeph Loeb: read this)

I like Hero’s too, but how many more times can indestructible girl ‘die’ before people start shouting “Oh, my God! They killed Claire! You bastards!”

]]> By: Dr. Manhattan http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46336 Dr. Manhattan Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:58:47 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46336 Oliver, like they said, give it time. It will work itself out. The pilot was a fuckin tour de force. It'll be good. I agree tho, the biggest problem might be that the "funny" stuff is not very funny at all. I disagree strongly tho with the idea that the acting is weak. I'd say quite the opposite, but its a subjective thing so not much use arguing about it. I think that reporter lady is supposed to be Maureen Dowd, right? That'd mark two exes he's snuck into this show... Also, NBC paid Sorkin such an exorbitant amount of money for the show (outbidding ABC and CBS) that there's no way they'll cancel it before the full first season at the very least. Oliver, like they said, give it time. It will work itself out. The pilot was a fuckin tour de force. It’ll be good. I agree tho, the biggest problem might be that the “funny” stuff is not very funny at all.

I disagree strongly tho with the idea that the acting is weak. I’d say quite the opposite, but its a subjective thing so not much use arguing about it.

I think that reporter lady is supposed to be Maureen Dowd, right? That’d mark two exes he’s snuck into this show…

Also, NBC paid Sorkin such an exorbitant amount of money for the show (outbidding ABC and CBS) that there’s no way they’ll cancel it before the full first season at the very least.

]]> By: NoLifeMcGee http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46335 NoLifeMcGee Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:26:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46335 I definetly agree, Oliver -- I had to actually turn off the show last night. It's not interesting; the acting is weak; and the things that the "writers" on "Studio 60" find funny are ... not funny at all. My thoughts exactly: Try again. However, there are some other great shows with new episodes right now: Dexter, Veronica Mars, Friday Night Lights, The Office and The Wire. That's a good line-up right there. I definetly agree, Oliver — I had to actually turn off the show last night. It’s not interesting; the acting is weak; and the things that the “writers” on “Studio 60″ find funny are … not funny at all. My thoughts exactly: Try again.

However, there are some other great shows with new episodes right now: Dexter, Veronica Mars, Friday Night Lights, The Office and The Wire. That’s a good line-up right there.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46334 Oliver Willis Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:29:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46334 Wayne: I tried, and I'll probably watch what's left (I dont't think the show is gonna last long) but it doesn't have the "it" that Sportsnight and West Wing had. Wayne: I tried, and I’ll probably watch what’s left (I dont’t think the show is gonna last long) but it doesn’t have the “it” that Sportsnight and West Wing had.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46333 Oliver Willis Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:28:21 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46333 Like <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/PKJ/01/ModerPKJ.htm" rel="nofollow">your stuff</a>, man. Like your stuff, man.

]]> By: Wayne http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46332 Wayne Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:27:49 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46332 Oliver, NO! Give it time. Sure WW was friggn' sweet from go, but please don't shun Sorkin so fast. I need this. If this goes, what will be left? Another ‘Deal or No Deal’? Flying Spaghetti Monster help us all. Oliver, NO! Give it time. Sure WW was friggn’ sweet from go, but please don’t shun Sorkin so fast. I need this. If this goes, what will be left? Another ‘Deal or No Deal’? Flying Spaghetti Monster help us all.

]]> By: Ian http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46331 Ian Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:27:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46331 The only show I watch religiously is '24'. The Simpsons and Family Guy, sometimes. The only show I watch religiously is ‘24′. The Simpsons and Family Guy, sometimes.

]]> By: lee moder http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/10/10/the-problem-with-studio-60/#comment-46330 lee moder Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:21:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2853#comment-46330 Had a lot of fun working with Jeph on an Action Comics Annual about a dozen years ago. He gave me full rein, as the penciller, to pace the action as I saw fit. Even went so far to give me about a dozen pages to choreograph a good ol' fashioned slobber-knocker of a fight. Now, that's having trust in your artist. Had a lot of fun working with Jeph on an Action Comics Annual about a dozen years ago. He gave me full rein, as the penciller, to pace the action as I saw fit. Even went so far to give me about a dozen pages to choreograph a good ol’ fashioned slobber-knocker of a fight. Now, that’s having trust in your artist.

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